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[Dennis Carpenter]

It is my impression that women are far better at multi tasking then men........if that is accepted as a truism are they then better at tactical strategy or real time strategy and how does that help or hinder their game play would also like to hear from guys on this topic.

My viewpoint is its all in the brain Guys have one Big brain which limits what they can do at one time which is why they cant hear you when they are watching TV or missed what you were saying when a hot chick walks by.  Women on the other hand have a lot of little brains each of which is capable of its own decision making. This alows them to watch TV talk on the phone carry on a personal conversation while doing the dishes and cooking something on the stove.

I must use pause and play to get my strategies in order.........of course that also might have something to do with my age and thelimited amount of gray matter i have left after growing up in the 60's.

But realistically I have watched some girls playing different games and they seem to be aware of everything going on and rarely miss opportunities or minor things game wise that most guys dont even realize were there.

[AshedMan]

I don't agree with your generalizations.

[Snoteye]

Dennis Carpenter wrote...

It is my impression that women are far better at multi tasking then men

They are. It's biological. They are also better at languages, but worse at spatial recognition. It is perfectly normal for women to be able to read and listen at the same time, not so much men.

Dennis Carpenter wrote...

... are they then better at tactical strategy or real time strategy...

I am not familiar with the former.

Dennis Carpenter wrote...

... and how does that help or hinder their game play...

I imagine it makes it easier to pay attention and react to on screen alerts and unrelated action at the same time.

Modifié par Snoteye, 07 janvier 2010 - 09:55 .

[Dennis Carpenter]

@snoteye Tactical strategy is that which you have a lot of time to plan and prepare like a turn based strategy sort of getting your ducks all in a row. Real time strategy is what a lot of games nowadays use and something I find difficult to maneuver through. Cant seem to keep up with that.

[LadyKarrakaz]

Hum, let me ask all my little brains... I'm not so sure it's a male/girl thing. I've always multitasked (like reading two books, learning lessons and listening to music...), hard to tell. Can't you actually talk while cooking Dennis?

To speak about games, hum, I'm not that much into strategy games, more into role playing, even if in the case of DAO, there are tactics with combat.

IMO, it's hard to classify all women and men as multitask/one task.

[Seagloom]

Eh... I'm not even sure how to approach this. Directly, I guess.

In my experience this isn't true. One of my best friends plays games like a fiend. That is, he's amazing at them regardless of complexity. He even tops me in certain genres. (Racing, puzzle and RTS games in particular.) He is easily able to keep track of frenetic action in a game and act accordingly. Years ago I had another friend that was much the same... even thrived under hectic gaming conditions. He could go through a shooter like Thunderforce V or Contra 3 without getting hit. That requires an extreme attention to detail to catch all those bullets flying around and incoming obstacles, and yet act quickly enough to avoid them.

Some people are good at multitasking, period. I don't think gender has anything to do with it. Where video games are concerned it's all quick thinking, hand-eye coordination, and a deep understanding of a game's system and nuiances.

Modifié par Seagloom, 07 janvier 2010 - 10:10 .

[Snoteye]

Seagloom wrote...

In my experience...

Before I go to bed I want to point out that this is a mistake I've often observed when discussing this subject. Experience doesn't matter. It is scientifically proven that the average women is better at multitasking than the average man. Whether that is enough to give any significant advantage in any type of game is a separate matter. Personally, I doubt it; but I also suspect that the primary reason males dominate (professional) gaming is simply that we're more competitive.

[Edit]
A mistake as far as women being better at multitasking goes, not whether that fact makes them any better or worse at gaming.

Modifié par Snoteye, 07 janvier 2010 - 10:22 .

[Dennis Carpenter]

@seagloom I agree regarding hand eye coordination but that is pretty much indicative of first person shooters.....The tactics part watching what everyone of your characters is doing where they are at healthwise mana etc etc.I get to zeroed in and very often wind up with characters down or my own character going down trying to adjust a bad combat situation i di not pay attention to. Having the tactics option does help at least for me.



@Purple Lady ......... nope if i get into a conversation while cooking I guarantee it will burn or boil over.......:-) But with the wife not being up to doing these things anymore I have3 been finding ways to time things individually so I can do something else at the same time, as long as I dont get to engrossed in what I am doing and forget about what else is going on. So its the same in game for me also. Glad to see there are other people who have not much difficulty with it.



Now that I see more women in the game community thats what triggered the thoughts or at least got me to thinking about the similarities of multi-tasking and gaming and women vs men

[Jae Onasi]

I think it's also considered more 'acceptable' for guys to game, at least until recently.

The average woman may be better at some things and the average man may be better at some other things, but there's such a broad range of individuality that there are plenty of individual men who are going to be better at multi-tasking than plenty of other individual women. Some women are significantly more competitive than some men.

[Seagloom]

Snoteye wrote...

Seagloom wrote...

In my experience...

Before I go to bed I want to point out that this is a mistake I've often observed when discussing this subject. Experience doesn't matter. It is scientifically proven that the average women is better at multitasking than the average man. Whether that is enough to give any significant advantage in any type of game is a separate matter. Personally, I doubt it; but I also suspect that the primary reason males dominate (professional) gaming is simply that we're more competitive.

[Edit]
A mistake as far as women being better at multitasking goes, not whether that fact makes them any better or worse at gaming.

Well, I could have written that my point of view is anecdotal, which it is, but I thought that obvious. I thought the same sentence fragment you quoted "In my experience" covered that adequately.

In any case, my entire post is limited to how multitasking pertains to gaming. If it's proven by science then I must have the fortune to encounter every exception to the rule, because as far as that goes almost everyone in my life is an exceptional multitasker regardless of gender or age. Particularly in my immediate family. Not that there is any quantifiable way for me to measure just how much better one person is at multasking or how that affects gaming.

[Dennis Carpenter]

Seagloom said

If it's proven by science then I must have the fortune to encounter
every exception to the rule, because as far as that goes almost
everyone in my life is an exceptional multitasker regardless of gender
or age. Particularly in my immediate family.

I think I saw that in a movie once where these really gifted people sought each other out and formed a community way up in the mountains and invented incredible machines and finally contacted a parallel dimension where they all escaped to and found out they were put here as a test to see if they could adapt when being put into an environment primarily comprised of lesser species.............................or maybe that was a dream I once had as a kid............Never Mind

[Dennis Carpenter]

It would be interesting though to find out if anyone has done a study on this and what the results were.

[Seagloom]

Dennis Carpenter wrote...

@seagloom I agree regarding hand eye coordination but that is pretty much indicative of first person shooters.....The tactics part watching what everyone of your characters is doing where they are at healthwise mana etc etc.I get to zeroed in and very often wind up with characters down or my own character going down trying to adjust a bad combat situation i di not pay attention to. Having the tactics option does help at least for me.

I made my comparisons poorly, I guess. What I meant by those examples are that these two men exceled at keeping an eye on everything taking place in a game and reacting accordingly for the best possible outcome. This was not limited to side-scrolling shooters. One of them is very good at strategy, realtime or otherwise, and is also an exceptional and quick thinking chess player. I have never seen him scramble to keep up with any game, and this includes Dragon Age.

The other I was once acquainted with was similar. I realize those two are by no means representative of the average male. I think my contention is more that I dislike generalizations like this. Then again, my experiences are purely anecdotal, so they probably *do* hold true for most people. Just further proof of why I should stick to lurking rather than debating. I'm too flaky for the latter.

[Dennis Carpenter]

@seagloom i think you do just fine, I to know people of both genders that excell at alot of the things you mention, I find it interesting though given the womens pre-disposition to multi tasking( if that is the correct word) just how much that helps them in gaming. Do you find gaming easier then you thought it would be and which type do you favor...FPS..RPG...Strategy etc etc Guess maybe I should have worded my original post better. I just figured since women have all those little brains they would figure it out.

[SargeantRenegade]

In my experience, I've found that women make the best healers in a group environment. I don't know exactly why that is - possibly due to greater multitasking ability as healing needs that ability - but I'm always reassured when there's a lady in the backline.

[Seagloom]

I'm not a good example for this. I've been playing games since I was around... four? Five? I grew up on consoles and cut class in high school to go to arcades. One of my older sisters was even worse for awhile before her interest in gaming waned as responsibilities piled up. Nowadays I favor RPGs and adventures. RPGs are my favorite for the characters and to a lesser extent, stories. I also enjoy adventures for the same reason. The stories and characters.

There was a time when I ate up shooters and fighting games though. Desert Falcon, House of the Dead, Axelay, Street Fighter 2, ect. Action games kind of bore me now, but it isn't because I can't handle them. The only games I've never exceled at are racing, because I never have the patience to learn their subtleties before moving on... and find them dull when playing alone.

I'm a decent multitasker, but that same quality hinders me as much as it helps. I tend to space out and get lost in my own thoughts. My mind is rarely focused on what I'm doing in a game unless I find it very interesting. This has been problematic for me a few times playing Dragon Age, when I suddenly notice my tank croaked after spending one too many seconds aiming for a perfect screenshot or find myself distracted by WLM.

Modifié par Seagloom, 07 janvier 2010 - 11:35 .