Should Shepard die or not?
#1
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:10
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
I can't decide.. What do you think?
#2
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:15
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
#3
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:15
Shepard died on the SR1...just came back to do one last thing...
#4
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:16
I can, however, see why survival is attractive for many people (story wise).
#5
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:17
#6
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:23
There should have been endings where SHepard dies, and endings where SHepard lived (not just as as faceless torso)
This is a choice based RPG. There shouldn't be just one outcome. Shepard's fate should be in the player's hands.
You think Shepard needs to die? Fine here's your ending
You want Shepard to live? Okay, here's yours.
Wish Bioware had figured that out.
#7
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:26
#8
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:29
Modifié par XM-417, 08 janvier 2013 - 10:41 .
#9
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:30
So what if all synthetics die? they can be rebuilt anyways. Technically they are just robots.
control/synthesis just doesnt feel right to me. The reapers deserve death and the galaxy is better off without reapers, reapers existed to control all lifeforms and when the time comes they choose to erase the galaxy of advance species and restart the cycle. That itself is wrong.
shepard deserves a nice retired life with his LI after all his heroic deeds anyways.
#10
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:35
#11
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:39
#12
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:41
Priss Blackburne wrote...
I like Dragon age Origins where you got to choose your Warden's fate by actions previous.
So totally this... I think that's what most people wanted. Was it really so hard to give us that?
#13
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:44
You'd think the Bioware devs have never played games like Shadow of Memories or Dragon Age: Origins.
Modifié par Xellith, 08 janvier 2013 - 10:45 .
#14
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:45
I expected death, and the narrative sets you up for it, but I expected it to make more sense and be more ... "ceremonious", I suppose.
#15
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:47
#16
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:53
And to me, the only Shepard that survives is the one that did something "wrong".
Under other circumstances I would have been ok with Shepard surviving since that itself doesn't affect my feeling of the ending. Beign able to win and survive is slightly better than doing it and dying, but here we got a "fail" associated with the survival. Least imo Destroy is a partial fail even if it's better than the outcome of Refuse.
To me it was never abut destroying the reapers but stopping them, if destroying them was what it would take then I woudl have accepted it, but the main priority was to save people. Including the Geth and Legion who pledged themselves to your cause. Now if their sacrifise had been nessesary or that or the Asari to save all the rest then I owuld have accepted that, but the thing is it wasn't the only option to save everyone. It turned out to be the onyl option save for refuse that didn't save everyone but Shepard.
If you think back you will notice that Shepard keeps saying he will stop the reapers, not nessesarily "Destroy" them.
At the end of ME1 he/she says he will look for a way to "stop" the reapers. That is the point of the story. Anythign else is what people read out of it due to cultural and personal bias partialy based on shooter games.. Where victory is achived by killing.
Modifié par shodiswe, 08 janvier 2013 - 10:59 .
#17
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:54
iakus wrote...
Both.
There should have been endings where SHepard dies, and endings where SHepard lived (not just as as faceless torso)
This is a choice based RPG. There shouldn't be just one outcome. Shepard's fate should be in the player's hands.
You think Shepard needs to die? Fine here's your ending
You want Shepard to live? Okay, here's yours.
Wish Bioware had figured that out.
This would be an acceptable way to go about it. Some want him/her to die heroically while others want him/her to live on with their chosen LI. How hard is that to understand BioWare/EA? I understand you're done with him but it should have been left in the player's hands. In a way, they have provided "endings" but not sufficient enough, I suppose.
What I wanted:
(Which I'll later write my own story because of the stuff left unsaid and done... and that's quite a bit actually.)
My MaleShepard lives and recuperates after the war with his chosen LI, Miranda Lawson. He did the impossible and should be rewarded with such, not death. He warned them *officials* and they didn't listen! They owe him more than a damn medal.
Just because you end a story or want to stop telling stories about a protagonist doesn't mean everyone needs to die. I certainly didn't want my Shep to die after all the hours/years I put in him... the game... characters... merchandise... etc. He's been through enough hell that he can finally do what he wants. He'd be happy to let someone else clean-up everyone else's mess for a change. This leaves it open for the player and BioWare/EA could have done their own thing with a new protag if they want so badly.
Killing off my Shep... NO!
Modifié par enayasoul, 08 janvier 2013 - 11:08 .
#18
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 10:58
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
enayasoul wrote...
iakus wrote...
Both.
There should have been endings where SHepard dies, and endings where SHepard lived (not just as as faceless torso)
This is a choice based RPG. There shouldn't be just one outcome. Shepard's fate should be in the player's hands.
You think Shepard needs to die? Fine here's your ending
You want Shepard to live? Okay, here's yours.
Wish Bioware had figured that out.
This would be an acceptable way to go about it. Some want him/her to die heroically while others want him/her to live on with their chosen LI. How hard is that to understand BioWare/EA? I understand you're done with him but it should have been left in the player's hands. In a way, they have provided "endings" but not sufficient enough, I suppose.
What I wanted:
(Which I'll later write my own story because of the stuff left unsaid and done... and that's quite a bit actually.)
My MaleShepard lives and recuperates after the war with his chosen LI, Miranda Lawson. He did the impossible and should be rewarded with such, not death. He warned them *officials* and they didn't listen! They owe him more than a damn medal.
Just because you end a story or want to stop telling stories about a protagonist doesn't mean everyone needs to die. I certainly didn't want my Shep do die after all the hours/years I put in him... the game... characters... merchandise... etc. He's been through enough hell that he can finally do what he wants. He'd be happy to let someone else clean-up everyone else's mess for a change. This leaves it open for the player and BioWare/EA could have done their own thing with a new protag if they want so badly.
Killing off my Shep... NO!
hey you know what I think you are right Shep should settle down with Miranda( also my LI)
I think I will let him live!
#19
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 11:00
But to each their own.
#20
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 11:01
Kabraxal wrote...
Priss Blackburne wrote...
I like Dragon age Origins where you got to choose your Warden's fate by actions previous.
So totally this... I think that's what most people wanted. Was it really so hard to give us that?
I totally agree! My Dragon Age, Protagonist, wasn't going to stop looking for Morrigan and his son. And in the end, Hawke was able to leave with Morrigan to meet his son. I love that idea of an ending!
Even though that DLC was short... the ending still made me smile. :happy: Dragon Age 2, ending was okay too. I'm still on the fence about whether to pick the mages over the templars but that's for another forum. And yes, my hero romanced Isabella... much fun!
Modifié par enayasoul, 09 janvier 2013 - 07:12 .
#21
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 11:05
#22
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 11:17
Priss Blackburne wrote...
I like Dragon age Origins where you got to choose your Warden's fate by actions previous.
Same here. I like to be able to control my own destiny, not the mandatory heroic sacrifice. The idea of dying for what you believe in loses its potency when its the only option.
#23
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 11:24
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Hawke was the protagonist in DA2...enayasoul wrote...
Kabraxal wrote...
Priss Blackburne wrote...
I like Dragon age Origins where you got to choose your Warden's fate by actions previous.
So totally this... I think that's what most people wanted. Was it really so hard to give us that?
I totally agree! My Hawke wasn't going to stop looking for Morrigan and his son. And in the end, Hawke was able to leave with Morrigan to meet his son. I love that idea of an ending!
#24
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 11:29
Modifié par bobobo878, 08 janvier 2013 - 11:30 .
#25
Posté 08 janvier 2013 - 11:31
If BioWare actually wanted Shepard to survive. They would have done better than a tacked-on breath scene that underminds everything that preceeded it.





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