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[Versus Omnibus]

Not unless it's a last resort to save lives. I do find it stupid that Bioware forces Shepard's death on you.

[FreshRevenge]

 Since Shepard is killed and dies in the beginning of ME2 and somehow by magic means of resurrection. I don't see why Shepard needs to die twice.

spoiler alert below for God of War franchise.

Another franchise of mine kept doing this and I wasn't sure why they chose to end with death again. Take God of 
War. It appears that Kratos dies three times. Well he commits suicide the last time but why?

I thought by having Shepard live just proves that you can't keep a good man/woman down! Yet Bioflake didn't do that? Instead they injected the ending with Deus Ex Depressants!

Today I went to Best Buy to get that Mass Effect Paragon Lost movie. I had to ask one of the workers there where it was located, since they moved it away the front of the store. The guy said the movie was good but he felt it didn't do anything since the ending it what it is. I spent about half hour or it seem like it talking about the ending. It was hilarious that he felt the same way about the ending as I did. The ending just doesn't fit Mass Effect!

Get Deus Ex Human Revolution out of my Mass Effect game!<_<

[AshenShug4r]

Shepard died once(to this day I don't understand that plot). Killing him again feels contrived.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Seboist wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

They made Dragon Age: Origins. You could choose your warden's fate in the end. Some lived, some died.

Bioware can still retire Shepard. It is not necessary to kill off a character to end their story arc.

It's their story not yours. Stick to fan fiction for your wish fulfillment.

The question was "Should Shepard die or not?" I answered it. If you do not like my answer you do not have to read it. There is no need to insult me with this drivel.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 09 janvier 2013 - 03:42 .

[Mavqt]

There should be no definitive answer, it should be up to the player and their choices in the series, or at least the final choice.

However I believe that the 'breath' scene wasn't enough for most.

Instead of rubble, make it a hospital, or some kind of med bay. Maybe a shuttle with a medic or something. But this leaves a plothole 'How did Shep get from A (citdel} to B (place picked)?' And we don't really want more of those, do we?

Those would wanted their Shep to die could headcanon her/him dying later of injuries or what ever. The ones who wanted their Shep to live could easily headcanon away after that.

That's just my 2 cents.

[TJBartlemus]

Personally it doesn't matter to me, as long as it is a fitting good bye to the character. Like Alex Mason in BO2. His death was a fitting end, that allowed drama to be added and the story arc to progress nicely.

[Big I]

No, Shepard should not die. The whole trilogy is about one person overcoming impossible odds. Forcing Shepard to die cheapens that.

[Kulbelbolka]

I think it should've been the ultimate consequence at the end, based on a lot of choices through the entire trilogy. And I don't mean «Paragon - Shepard lives» and «Renegade - Shepard dies», there should be large chain of deeds, choices and relations with other characters that will make it possible for Shepard to stay alive. Bioware did this with geth vs. quarian conflict and it played well - it was the most emotional moment in the game for me.

[TsaiMeLemoni]

Personally, it was fitting for Shepard to die (even in the Destroy ending, I am going with that being his last gasp). It's the end of his story, and in my mind Shepard was never going to have any sort of 'happy ending'.

[Iakus]

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

Personally, it was fitting for Shepard to die (even in the Destroy ending, I am going with that being his last gasp). It's the end of his story, and in my mind Shepard was never going to have any sort of 'happy ending'.

See, that's the important part.  In your story, Shepard dies.

[Meltemph]

Shepard should do whatever makes sense in regards to the plot. If it is a asspull or a nonsensical reason as to why he should live or die, then it should not do it. The story should properly dictate what happens to him.

AS happens with the ending for this game, the "reason" for him to die, I thought was terrible. Having to jump into a beam or turn into a human lightning rod, to me, was just silly. That said, I dont care one way or another if he needed to die, as long as it made sense within the narrative.

[Auzden]

I think that Shepard should die after he gets the children, husband/wife. Like have a scene showing his grave and then show your LI all old and stuff (Liara being Asari may look the same)visiting the grave, maybe your children all grown up too. Just like a "he lived happy ever after, till the end of his days"

[Necrotya]

There should be a thingy with war assets ( WA) to determine if Shep lives or dies ( forget brething scene for a sec ) - or combo with red/green/blue choice+WA to determine it.
Anyways, players should have gotten it all ( die and live endings possibilities ) and all would be happy.

[moater boat]

What choice is better? Well actually having a choice would be a good place to start.

[IMNOTCRAZYiminsane]

bobobo878 wrote...

Oh yeah, Shepard should die, most definitely. After I found out what happens to Shepard in ME3, I practically fed him to Morinth.

Shepard goes out in a Bang ! *ideal Ending!* 

[Darth Spike]

If i remember correctly Bioware said that every single thing you did in the two previous games effected how the third one ends. But in reality NOTHING you did effects how the game ends. You still get the A,B,C ending no matter what and they just want us to accept that.

Bioware was one of the few companies that made epic and amazing games, they never changed a game so radically in the las 30 minutes of the story. Personally i fully blame EA for this crap ending. Boiware was one of the few that threw cannon endings out the window. Before EA they would have said 'the hero dies at the end.... Screw that! The hero can do and be whatever it wants at the end. Its the gamers decision.'


Sorry if i pissed off any of you guys who sides with Bioware whole heartedly. But this is the cold hard truth.


I personally think that Shepard and the ME universe have earned the right to choose how it ends

[TMZuk]

john_sheparrd wrote...

What choice is better? A heroic death is also nice but settling down with LI after the war also..
I can't decide.. What do you think?

That should, just like Dragon Age: Origins, be depending on player-choices and war assets. The reason for my personal -intense- dislike for the present endings is that martyrdom is forced upon me, a concept I despise.

I believe in collective efforts. I don't believe in gods or super-heroes. I attempted to play my character as a soldier who'd get the job done, one who could various factions to work together, but ultimately I wanted the victory to be everyones, through the effort of everyone.

Instead, my character became a Messiah. A Delieverer. A religious parable.

If it had been an option to lay down your characters life for, how should I say, a cleaner victory, then that would have been fine and in spirit with the rest of the series where ambigious choices were always the order of the day.


DA:O and NWN2 spoilers!


Compare to DA:O. Here the paragon road means refusing Morrigan, not sacrificing someone else, and die for the good of Thedeas. The middle road is to let Loghain take the hit, or perform the ritual. The renegade road is to sacrifice Alistair.

A more interesting approach is how it is done in NWN2:MotB. The paragon reclaims his/her soul, returns to Faerun and lives happily ever after, possibly with his/her liason. The renegade, on the other hand, ascends to Godhood.

Modifié par TMZuk, 09 janvier 2013 - 10:20 .

[Mentxi]

Free drama...

SPOILERS FOR DAO

In DAO you choose who needs to die (Alistair, the warden or Loghain) and thanks to Morrigan you can even avoid death and have a really happy ending. Not everyone chooses to make a pact with Morrigan and those who want drama, well, they still can have it and, for example, let Alistair (who can be your LI) kill the archdemon.

END OF SPOILERS

So Shepard doesn't need to die, Bioware chose to kill him/her in almost all the endings.Maybe they thought that a really happy endings could spoil the game or something like that.... XD

[wright1978]

Shep shouldn't die. Already died once, doing it again is cheap and stupid.

[TsaiMeLemoni]

iakus wrote...

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

Personally, it was fitting for Shepard to die (even in the Destroy ending, I am going with that being his last gasp). It's the end of his story, and in my mind Shepard was never going to have any sort of 'happy ending'.

See, that's the important part.  In your story, Shepard dies.

I wasn't aware I was advocating anything other than what my personal opinion was. Thanks for pointing it out as if I were trying to invalidate other people's opinions, though!

[clarkusdarkus]

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

iakus wrote...

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

Personally, it was fitting for Shepard to die (even in the Destroy ending, I am going with that being his last gasp). It's the end of his story, and in my mind Shepard was never going to have any sort of 'happy ending'.

See, that's the important part.  In your story, Shepard dies.

I wasn't aware I was advocating anything other than what my personal opinion was. Thanks for pointing it out as if I were trying to invalidate other people's opinions, though!

To be honest i didn't read it like how u read that post, people are so defensive and touchy on here sometimes, i think the poster was basically saying it fitted your narrative and thatt it's good it did that.

[tg0618]

john_sheparrd wrote...

What choice is better? A heroic death is also nice but settling down with LI after the war also..
I can't decide.. What do you think?

My own personal preferrence, is Shepard living and he and his crew continue fighting the "next great threat" in Mass Effect 4. But it's just my opinion.

Outside of that, He and his LI settling down and enjoying a much needed and deserved vaction is tops in my book.

[chidingewe8036]

Shepard did not die will not die and is not dead the Leviathans are still out there and they want their galaxy back.......The Reaper Threat was only the beginning..........

ME4

Shepard and his ENTIRE team return for one last adventure

[TsaiMeLemoni]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

iakus wrote...

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

Personally, it was fitting for Shepard to die (even in the Destroy ending, I am going with that being his last gasp). It's the end of his story, and in my mind Shepard was never going to have any sort of 'happy ending'.

See, that's the important part.  In your story, Shepard dies.

I wasn't aware I was advocating anything other than what my personal opinion was. Thanks for pointing it out as if I were trying to invalidate other people's opinions, though!

To be honest i didn't read it like how u read that post, people are so defensive and touchy on here sometimes, i think the poster was basically saying it fitted your narrative and thatt it's good it did that.

If that's true then yeah, we both read that completely differently.