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[brad2240]

Autoclave wrote...

What is better to use as a detonator power with soldier? Concusive shot or carnage? I dont really enjoy using biotic bonus powers on a tech class or vice versa

Prior to the changes to fire explosions, I would have said Carnage. It might still have the edge for cryo explosions. But Conc Shot has a shorter cooldown and a faster projectile and, best of all, doesn't use your bonus power slot. Since the detonator no longer has to kill the target for a fire explosions, and tech bursts never had to, I'd stick with Conc Shot.

[Autoclave]

Ok, thanks for advice, if i want to use Adrenalin rush often, what bonus power should i consider?

[RedCaesar97]

Autoclave wrote...

Ok, thanks for advice, if i want to use Adrenalin rush often, what bonus power should i consider?

If you want to use Adrenaline Ruch often, then you do not need a bonus power, or at least a bonus power that will take up a long cooldown.

In that case, you might want to consider:
 - Inferno Grenade to either (a) increase the number of grenades you can carry so you can use Frag Grenades more often, or ( set up more fire explosions without relying on Incendiary Ammo exclusively. 
 - Fortification to increase your durability, and the rank 5 Damage bonus applies to your ammo powers. It carries a +60% cooldown penalty (+30% with rank 6 Recharge Speed), which is not that bad so long as you do not take an extremely heavy loadout.
 - Barrier or Defense Matrix; same cooldown penalties as Fortification but they have different benefits.
 - Warp Ammo or AP Ammo, but I do not consider either one all that great. 

Energy Drain and Proximity Mine are also good for the Soldier.

[brad2240]

Autoclave wrote...

Ok, thanks for advice, if i want to use Adrenalin rush often, what bonus power should i consider?

I lean toward Fortification for the DR and the extra damage to ammo powers (including the Explosive Burst of Incendiary) as well as to your Frags and Conc Shot. With this build I also go for DR at rank 4 of Adrenaline Rush.

Second choice would be Energy Drain. It meshes well with a build focusing on Incendiary since it removes the shields so you can keep burning things down. Would work good with a Cryo ammo build, too, but probably not too necessary if Disruptor is your primary.

[RedCaesar97]

RedCaesar97 wrote...

Autoclave wrote...

Ok, thanks for advice, if i want to use Adrenalin rush often, what bonus power should i consider?

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I suppose I should mention that almost all bonus powers will have a longer cooldown than Concussive Shot, so I guess it depends on how you feel about Concussive Shot.

To add to my previous list, Slam is also good.

Other than that, I have not used or tried all the bonus powers on a Soldier, so I cannot say which ones are good. 

However, I do find that Defense Drone is mostly wasted on the Soldier. I tried it a few times, but was not impressed with it. Defense Drone works on some other classes much better. Decoy would also be a bad or wasted power in my opinion.

You could replace Concussive Shot with Carnage, but I do not find that the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.

Flare has a long cooldown, but if you use it exclusively with Adrenaline Rush rank 6 Fire Power evolution it should not be too bad, but I question how good it would be on the Soldier regardless, since the Soldier does not get much Power Damage bonuses from its class passive.

Modifié par RedCaesar97, 10 janvier 2013 - 05:42 .

[Drayce333]

Binary_Helix 1, where are you!!?!?!!?!?

Anyways Autoclave, I really suggest you pick up marksman. Carry a automatic assault rifle like the Phaeston, Revenant and marksman + explosive incendiary ammo will tear mid range enemies apart. Keep Adrenaline rush and use it for slow hard hitting sniper rifles. I really loved how well this weapon combo played on my soldier shep. If you just want to limit yourself however to adrenaline rush then pick up fortification, incendiary/disruptor ammo concussive shot can be alright kinda. Oh and please obtain all the weapon damage + you can for the soldier.

[capn233]

Since Concussive Shot with Amplification can prime and detonate Fire Explosions now, Carnage's utility as a bonus power for Soldier is seriously undermined.

You can get away with nearly any bonus power on a Soldier though... especially if you abuse Incendiary Explosive Burst ammo with the above fact.

I like Proximity Mine so that targets take an additional 25% damage from all sources.

Likely the most powerful Soldier would use Reave, but that wouldn't be a pure class.

[BronzTrooper]

Autoclave wrote...

Ok, thanks for advice, if i want to use Adrenalin rush often, what bonus power should i consider?

On my soldier I put on AP ammo and I did real good (especially when using the Revenant) against both armored enemies and those behind light cover.  Since AP ammo doesn't have a recharge I was able to use Adrenalin rush often and with AP ammo on I just destroyed anyone who was in my way.  I suppose that if you put the Typhoon on with AP ammo and turn on Adrenalin Rush you could demolish anyone on Insanity, but I haven't tried it yet.

[Autoclave]

Thank you all for suggestions. So i finally found this extra soldier feature, the ability to detonate by himself fire, tech and cryo combos. I didn't know about this when i started this thread.

My only gripe with concusive shot, is that it does less damage than carnage, and it will probably rarely kill a frozen target for a cryo explosion. 

Modifié par Autoclave, 11 janvier 2013 - 12:28 .

[brad2240]

Autoclave wrote...

Thank you all for suggestions. So i finally found this extra soldier feature, the ability to detonate by himself fire, tech and cryo combos. I didn't know about this when i started this thread.

My only gripe with concusive shot, is that it does less damage than carnage, and it will probably rarely kill a frozen target for a cryo explosion. 

True. But, IMO, Cryo explosions are a bit underwhelming. With fire explosions and tech bursts at your disposal, you really won't miss the cryo too much.

[Autoclave]

Are you suggesting that i should not try to set up any cryo explosions in the game, including with other classes like engineers for example?

Modifié par Autoclave, 11 janvier 2013 - 03:32 .

[brad2240]

No, cryo explosions are decent and if you like freezing stuff and watching it shatter you'll probably like them. But in terms of damage output, they lag behind fire explosions and tech bursts.

My main use of cryo ammo is for the team, while I'm using Incendiary. So I might get some chances to cause a cryo explosion and it's worth it if I do, but I personally didn't enjoy focusing a build around it.

[zeypher]

Just run with squad explosive ammo and concussive shot. You will get more than enough chances to blow people up with fire explosions

[RA RA XD]

RedCaesar97 wrote...

Other than that, I have not used or tried all the bonus powers on a Soldier, so I cannot say which ones are good. 

Dark channel is pretty good, but that's the same for any class 

THe biggest problem with the soldier IMO is the odd, and relatively lack lustre, passive. I won't go into detail here but I would recommend you read this thread:

http://social.biowar.../index/16006555

A lot of effort went into annalising the problems with the solider's passive and various ways to remedy it.

[BronzTrooper]

[capn233]

I like the Magic card version.

[Abraham_uk]

Gamer072196 wrote...

Thanks for the Necro:devil: