Aller au contenu

Photo

Fire Emblem: Awakening and more


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
2398 réponses à ce sujet

#526
Dean_the_Young

Dean_the_Young
  • Members
  • 20 684 messages

Sajuro wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

On the other topic...

I think one reason I enjoy Awakening as much as I do is because it's one of the rare games that uses time travel in a more than superficial case. Most media that do are pretty superficial about it: it's usually only a single character, and one practically indistinguishable from the rest of the cast.

The future-cast of Awakening is better because, well, it's a real difference for them, one that shows up repeatedly in their dialogue and attitudes. Even when they aren't talking about the future, it shows its impact on them: not just in being reunited with long-lost family, but in other things and experiences. Nah's support with the Avatar, for example, is based around how she's used to eating weeds for anything in her stomach, a telling testament to the devastation and starvation of the future. Even without mentioning the word 'future' at all, the fact that her expectations reflect it in such a way that even modest food is considered luxurious is effective. Some characters dwell on it more than others, but the fact that the future is real to them makes it real to us.

I certainly wish they had done more with the future cast and connections, but that's just it: I want more, not necessarily different.

I always wondered what the current version of the child cast would be like, since most of the flaws in their personalities come from the fact that they were children whose parents died as soon as the world started going to hell and they had to grow up very quickly. With Panne and his father still around, will this timeline's Yarne grow up braver? Will Inigo be less of a player? Will Severa have less Tsundere tendencies especially if Cordellia learned from future Severa and gets over her feelings for Chrom? Even Owain's personality has been shaped by the fact that his Dad died because Owain was too busy blustering.

I don't think we can deny things will be different. I think the idea that things will be better is a real part of them as well, like how they'll save their parents so their future-self will be happier and better. (But not Inigo: that's just to get over his shyness!)

But seriously, and somberly, I actually liked Lucina and Bradley's moments when they confront the fact that they're still to be born: they do it in different ways, but part of their supports is that they suggest they'll vanish into the distance and out of the way when their new-self is born. I thought it was touching, and a bit sad, but it fit their mentality of how their entire world is flawed, including themselves.


I tremble at what Morgan will be, though: I'd need to play through a fem!Avatar playthrough to see if there are personality changes between male and female, but daughter!Morgan is such a Daddy's girl it's funny. Her Golden Gauffe quote defines her to me now.

#527
Guest_Catch This Fade_*

Guest_Catch This Fade_*
  • Guests

Dean_the_Young wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

It's cool that birthdays have some benefits. I went into the barracks and Tharja got a few stat boosts because it was her birthday like two days ago. Or yesterday. One of those. I forgot.

It's fun, but less so when it's made real-time. You are more than likely to only see a person's B-day once, if ever.

It would work better if game time was faster: say that there were dashed lines rather than solid lines between locations, and that one in-game day passed per dashed line.

I like that idea. Definitely better than the real-time wait you have to go through to get the stat boosts. Although that got me thinking that I could probably mess with the date on the 3DS to get them sooner if I wanted. Unfortunately, I don't even know most of my peoples' birthdays. I'll probably take notes at the end of the game which is the only time I remember seeing them.

An old N64 game called Ogre Battle 64 had a system like that: every year for the main character's Birthday you got a present, which was usually a rare or powerful item. The older you got, the better, and every multiple of ten got you a unique item, including some of the most powerful weapons in the game.

Cool, can't go wrong with meaningful benefits. Fire Emblem being similar in its execution would take the idea beyond its feeling of being superficial. Someone like Tharja could recieve a tome on her birthday, Chrom a sword, etc.

#528
Sajuro

Sajuro
  • Members
  • 6 871 messages
I had the mini theory that Morgan in the game comes from another future (more specifically the future of the current timeline) since the last thing she remembers is walking around with her dad in a temple when he was currently busy being super-satan in the lost Timeline

Modifié par Sajuro, 04 avril 2013 - 09:19 .


#529
Dean_the_Young

Dean_the_Young
  • Members
  • 20 684 messages

J. Reezy wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

It's cool that birthdays have some benefits. I went into the barracks and Tharja got a few stat boosts because it was her birthday like two days ago. Or yesterday. One of those. I forgot.

It's fun, but less so when it's made real-time. You are more than likely to only see a person's B-day once, if ever.

It would work better if game time was faster: say that there were dashed lines rather than solid lines between locations, and that one in-game day passed per dashed line.

I like that idea. Definitely better than the real-time wait you have to go through to get the stat boosts. Although that got me thinking that I could probably mess with the date on the 3DS to get them sooner if I wanted. Unfortunately, I don't even know most of my peoples' birthdays. I'll probably take notes at the end of the game which is the only time I remember seeing them.

An old N64 game called Ogre Battle 64 had a system like that: every year for the main character's Birthday you got a present, which was usually a rare or powerful item. The older you got, the better, and every multiple of ten got you a unique item, including some of the most powerful weapons in the game.

Cool, can't go wrong with meaningful benefits. Fire Emblem being similar in its execution would take the idea beyond its feeling of being superficial. Someone like Tharja could recieve a tome on her birthday, Chrom a sword, etc.

Giving Chrom a sword is kind of redundant, don't you think?

I swear, if Falchion weren't unbreakable...

#530
Dean_the_Young

Dean_the_Young
  • Members
  • 20 684 messages

Sajuro wrote...

I had the mini theory that Morgan in the game comes from another future (more specifically the future of the current timeline) since the last thing she remembers is walking around with her dad in a temple when he was currently busy being super-satan in the lost Timeline

Hm. Don't see it myself, but then I'd have chuckled if Morgan could come out of the future even before you romance the Avatar: sort of a case of 'who's the daddy?!' mystery.

That wouldn't work as well game-wise, but in terms of a story it'd be pretty amusing: the amnesiac daddy-complex time-traveling amnesiac daughter who's mere existence might interfere with her birth.

#531
Dean_the_Young

Dean_the_Young
  • Members
  • 20 684 messages
On a separate note, about the parent possibilities...

Will Severa have less Tsundere tendencies especially if Cordellia
learned from future Severa and gets over her feelings for Chrom?


As character-defining as it is, I suppose, I'm slightly... disappointed? Confused? Eye-brow raised?... that Cordellia can't social-link with Chrom. There doesn't seem to be a reason for it: it's not like there aren't other possibly-unrequited love characters, nor is there a lack of opportunity or reason. You could just as easily have the same dynamic with Sumia as well.



Panne is another one, though more for kicks and giggles than serious regret. Common, Chrom: older women are better. And she'll kick you if you step out of line, which would be good for you. Good moral sounding board as you prove the worth of man-spawn and all that.

(And, come on, if she'll get with the kid Ricken...)


Basically, I just wonder why they restricted Chrom's options to only some of the Act 1 females. Later ones, sure, I can get it, but the not-haves here?

#532
Guest_Catch This Fade_*

Guest_Catch This Fade_*
  • Guests

Dean_the_Young wrote...
Giving Chrom a sword is kind of redundant, don't you think?

I swear, if Falchion weren't unbreakable...

Oh yeah! *Slaps self* Falchion is the only sword I ever have him use.

Modifié par J. Reezy, 04 avril 2013 - 09:42 .


#533
Sajuro

Sajuro
  • Members
  • 6 871 messages

Dean_the_Young wrote...

On a separate note, about the parent possibilities...

Will Severa have less Tsundere tendencies especially if Cordellia
learned from future Severa and gets over her feelings for Chrom?


As character-defining as it is, I suppose, I'm slightly... disappointed? Confused? Eye-brow raised?... that Cordellia can't social-link with Chrom. There doesn't seem to be a reason for it: it's not like there aren't other possibly-unrequited love characters, nor is there a lack of opportunity or reason. You could just as easily have the same dynamic with Sumia as well.



Panne is another one, though more for kicks and giggles than serious regret. Common, Chrom: older women are better. And she'll kick you if you step out of line, which would be good for you. Good moral sounding board as you prove the worth of man-spawn and all that.

(And, come on, if she'll get with the kid Ricken...)


Basically, I just wonder why they restricted Chrom's options to only some of the Act 1 females. Later ones, sure, I can get it, but the not-haves here?

I am confused why he has Olivia as a romance since you get her in the chapter where Chrom chooses a wife at the end and it seems like "Hey girl, I like your moves" then true love

#534
Sajuro

Sajuro
  • Members
  • 6 871 messages

J. Reezy wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...
Giving Chrom a sword is kind of redundant, don't you think?

I swear, if Falchion weren't unbreakable...

Oh yeah! *Slaps self* Falchion is the only sword I ever have him use.

My Chrom made use of silver swords and the special swords
Had a silver sword critted out named Exalt for roleplay purposes

#535
Guest_Catch This Fade_*

Guest_Catch This Fade_*
  • Guests

Sajuro wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

On a separate note, about the parent possibilities...

Will Severa have less Tsundere tendencies especially if Cordellia
learned from future Severa and gets over her feelings for Chrom?


As character-defining as it is, I suppose, I'm slightly... disappointed? Confused? Eye-brow raised?... that Cordellia can't social-link with Chrom. There doesn't seem to be a reason for it: it's not like there aren't other possibly-unrequited love characters, nor is there a lack of opportunity or reason. You could just as easily have the same dynamic with Sumia as well.



Panne is another one, though more for kicks and giggles than serious regret. Common, Chrom: older women are better. And she'll kick you if you step out of line, which would be good for you. Good moral sounding board as you prove the worth of man-spawn and all that.

(And, come on, if she'll get with the kid Ricken...)


Basically, I just wonder why they restricted Chrom's options to only some of the Act 1 females. Later ones, sure, I can get it, but the not-haves here?

I am confused why he has Olivia as a romance since you get her in the chapter where Chrom chooses a wife at the end and it seems like "Hey girl, I like your moves" then true love

I just got it yesterday and I don't get it either. I'm glad it happened though because his options were zero before she showed up.

#536
Sajuro

Sajuro
  • Members
  • 6 871 messages

J. Reezy wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

On a separate note, about the parent possibilities...

Will Severa have less Tsundere tendencies especially if Cordellia
learned from future Severa and gets over her feelings for Chrom?


As character-defining as it is, I suppose, I'm slightly... disappointed? Confused? Eye-brow raised?... that Cordellia can't social-link with Chrom. There doesn't seem to be a reason for it: it's not like there aren't other possibly-unrequited love characters, nor is there a lack of opportunity or reason. You could just as easily have the same dynamic with Sumia as well.



Panne is another one, though more for kicks and giggles than serious regret. Common, Chrom: older women are better. And she'll kick you if you step out of line, which would be good for you. Good moral sounding board as you prove the worth of man-spawn and all that.

(And, come on, if she'll get with the kid Ricken...)


Basically, I just wonder why they restricted Chrom's options to only some of the Act 1 females. Later ones, sure, I can get it, but the not-haves here?

I am confused why he has Olivia as a romance since you get her in the chapter where Chrom chooses a wife at the end and it seems like "Hey girl, I like your moves" then true love

I just got it yesterday and I don't get it either. I'm glad it happened though because his options were zero before she showed up.

I give you props for not ninjamancing Maribelle

#537
Sajuro

Sajuro
  • Members
  • 6 871 messages
What was everyone's first Fire Emblem?

Mine was Rekka no Ken, I got it when I was in Anderson, SC with my mom and my sister, we went to the Best Buy to get something else and I ended up getting it for my GBA SP, I remember firing it up when we got into the car and it was dark out so I had to turn on the back light.

#538
Shepenwepet

Shepenwepet
  • Members
  • 3 831 messages

Sajuro wrote...

What was everyone's first Fire Emblem?


Mine was Path of Radiance, due to not knowing the series existed until then. (Thanks, Nintendo! Bang-up job with the marketing!)

My brother had gone on a trip to Calgary and I had asked him to pick me up a copy of Resident Evil Zero for the Gamecube as I couldn't find it anywhere nearby. He came back with that and Path of Radiance, which he bought on a hunch, knowing I spent many of my childhood years playing Shining Force. 

After devouring Path of Radiance, I discovered that there were more of these games, so I started my hunt. I never turned up Rekka no Ken, the only one I found was on ebay, going for ridiculous amounts of money.

No Fire Emblem will ever slip by me again.

Except for that Wii-U one, no real interest in the crossover.

Modifié par Shepenwepet, 05 avril 2013 - 02:52 .


#539
Guest_Catch This Fade_*

Guest_Catch This Fade_*
  • Guests

Sajuro wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

On a separate note, about the parent possibilities...

Will Severa have less Tsundere tendencies especially if Cordellia
learned from future Severa and gets over her feelings for Chrom?


As character-defining as it is, I suppose, I'm slightly... disappointed? Confused? Eye-brow raised?... that Cordellia can't social-link with Chrom. There doesn't seem to be a reason for it: it's not like there aren't other possibly-unrequited love characters, nor is there a lack of opportunity or reason. You could just as easily have the same dynamic with Sumia as well.



Panne is another one, though more for kicks and giggles than serious regret. Common, Chrom: older women are better. And she'll kick you if you step out of line, which would be good for you. Good moral sounding board as you prove the worth of man-spawn and all that.

(And, come on, if she'll get with the kid Ricken...)


Basically, I just wonder why they restricted Chrom's options to only some of the Act 1 females. Later ones, sure, I can get it, but the not-haves here?

I am confused why he has Olivia as a romance since you get her in the chapter where Chrom chooses a wife at the end and it seems like "Hey girl, I like your moves" then true love

I just got it yesterday and I don't get it either. I'm glad it happened though because his options were zero before she showed up.

I give you props for not ninjamancing Maribelle

Lol that happens? I'm glad I paired Maribelle with Donny. Maribelle and Chrom is definitely what I DIDN'T want when I started this playthrough.

#540
Shepenwepet

Shepenwepet
  • Members
  • 3 831 messages
If Chrom isn't married before.... whatever chapter it is, he'll automatically marry the female he has the highest support with, which is why it's hard to get Olivia as his wife. If every female is already married, his wife is just some unnamed village girl. ("Maiden."). Not sure how the stats pan out in that scenario.

Probably not good, and I doubt that girl had Galeforce. ;)

#541
Guest_Catch This Fade_*

Guest_Catch This Fade_*
  • Guests

Shepenwepet wrote...

If Chrom isn't married before.... whatever chapter it is, he'll automatically marry the female he has the highest support with, which is why it's hard to get Olivia as his wife. If every female is already married, his wife is just some unnamed village girl. ("Maiden."). Not sure how the stats pan out in that scenario.

Probably not good, and I doubt that girl had Galeforce. ;)

Ah, makes sense. I'm glad I kept him away from all things female (except for Lissa) until Olivia showed up.

#542
Sajuro

Sajuro
  • Members
  • 6 871 messages

Shepenwepet wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

What was everyone's first Fire Emblem?


Mine was Path of Radiance, due to not knowing the series existed until then. (Thanks, Nintendo! Bang-up job with the marketing!)

My brother had gone on a trip to Calgary and I had asked him to pick me up a copy of Resident Evil Zero for the Gamecube as I couldn't find it anywhere nearby. He came back with that and Path of Radiance, which he bought on a hunch, knowing I spent many of my childhood years playing Shining Force. 

After devouring Path of Radiance, I discovered that there were more of these games, so I started my hunt. I never turned up Rekka no Ken, the only one I found was on ebay, going for ridiculous amounts of money.

No Fire Emblem will ever slip by me again.

Except for that Wii-U one, no real interest in the crossover.

I think I started on Path of Radiance, but my sister took the gamecube to her apartment before I could finish :unsure:
But you seriously need to play Fire Emblem 7/Rekka no Ken

#543
Dean_the_Young

Dean_the_Young
  • Members
  • 20 684 messages
I started with Fire Emblem 7, and loved Lyn and the Tactician dynamic (sort of). I never finished the game: it wasn't save-scum friendly, and I didn't have the patience to endure it, but it was fun.

I enjoyed the tactician role, as little as it did, and I actually think Awakening built on it quite well with the Avatar. I actually name my male Avatar Mark, just so that I can role-play the DLC insinuation that you are, in fact, the same Tactician with the Lynn card.

#544
Sajuro

Sajuro
  • Members
  • 6 871 messages
I just do what I do with Awakening, lose someone I like restart the chapter.

#545
Guest_Catch This Fade_*

Guest_Catch This Fade_*
  • Guests

Sajuro wrote...

I just do what I do with Awakening, lose someone I like restart the chapter.

Cheater.^_^

Speaking of losing people I like, I'm mad I lost Kellam and Cordelia yesterday. I've learned my lesson about paying attention to mages' tomes. Rexcalibur took Cordelia out in one hit and Kellam has no resistance whatsoever.

#546
Sajuro

Sajuro
  • Members
  • 6 871 messages

J. Reezy wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I just do what I do with Awakening, lose someone I like restart the chapter.

Cheater.^_^

Speaking of losing people I like, I'm mad I lost Kellam and Cordelia yesterday. I've learned my lesson about paying attention to mages' tomes. Rexcalibur took Cordelia out in one hit and Kellam has no resistance whatsoever.

That's how I lost Cherche

#547
Shepenwepet

Shepenwepet
  • Members
  • 3 831 messages

J. Reezy wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I just do what I do with Awakening, lose someone I like restart the chapter.

Cheater.^_^


Hey, when Gaius gets hit by a 20%/6% critical, I'm not the cheater. I routinely miss attacks that have 75% chance to hit, and rarely critical if it's under 30%. The enemy should have the same terrible luck, because I said so.

I also don't consider it cheating when I'm slogging through sand and AI Libra decides life isn't worth living anymore and throws himself on the enemy's sword.

And enemies with Counter should be holding up giant flashing neon signs that say "I HAVE COUNTER." 

I really wish I could leave units dead, to be honest. The completionist in me won't let me do it. Except for the final battle, when a unit dies there, I let it stick.  RIP, Garcia from Sacred Stones. I hated you anyway.

#548
Homebound

Homebound
  • Members
  • 11 891 messages
Its official. Maribelle is my favourite S-Support. Shes also a closet Yandere/sukeban which is funny to me.

This is my first fire emblem game.

Been doing a lot of the Spotpass battles. A LOT of people in my hometown rolled Dark Knight for some reason. And Most dudes Ive seen manced Tharja while most of the girls went after Chrom. Cant say Im surprised. Tharja was my first S-Support in the game and Morgan was a beast Sorceress.

Id like to make it a thing where whenever we mod a Nosferatu for Morgan, we rename it as the "Morganomicon".

I really like the Tactician class in this game. I'm like a buffer/spellsword.

@SAJURO I think u might b on to something. Technically Evil MU is the "default" future ergo Morgan is "default" Morgan and her "real" dad is dead and replaced by "alternate MU" aka you.
It explains why [SPOILERS] _________________she can be bypassed in a DLC where shes the boss monster by having MU talk to her or that shes a boss in the first place..Actually Morgan is a boss no matter what tbh.____________[END OF SPOILERS]

#549
Guest_Catch This Fade_*

Guest_Catch This Fade_*
  • Guests

Sajuro wrote...

What was everyone's first Fire Emblem?

Mine was Rekka no Ken, I got it when I was in Anderson, SC with my mom and my sister, we went to the Best Buy to get something else and I ended up getting it for my GBA SP, I remember firing it up when we got into the car and it was dark out so I had to turn on the back light.

I had no clue what Fire Emblem you were talking about. Looked it up and that's my first one as well. Awesome game.

Modifié par J. Reezy, 06 avril 2013 - 07:21 .


#550
Shepenwepet

Shepenwepet
  • Members
  • 3 831 messages

Homebound wrote...
Most dudes Ive seen manced Tharja while most of the girls went after Chrom. Cant say Im surprised. Tharja was my first S-Support in the game and Morgan was a beast Sorceress.


There was a character popularity poll done in Japan last year - Tharja won for females with Cordelia second and Chrom won for males with Gaius second. For the kids, the most popular were Lucina and Severa for girls and Owain and Inigo for guys. These results determined who would have fanservicey cutscenes in the Bonds dlcs.

Interestingly, there was also a North American poll a few weeks ago. The most popular character? Marth. I get it, Smash Brothers, but really? Unless they actually mean someone else, who isn't listed on the poll. 

The second place character is Walhart. Not quite understanding that. Least favorite playable character is Maribelle, which I do understand. :)