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#1151
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There's no easy to gain renown points in Awakening is there? I want to make it to 99,999 but that's gonna be a chore if I'm not getting enough points in one skirmish.

 

You get 50 points for just hiring a streetpass team, I think. You could just hire and fire them, which is easy enough to afford with the DLC.

 

But that's as fast as it gets. And it'll still take forever.



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There's no easy to gain renown points in Awakening is there? I want to make it to 99,999 but that's gonna be a chore if I'm not getting enough points in one skirmish.

 

I don't think they're worth anything in the first place, so it's kind of like donating hearts to Palutina in Kid Icarus. Good for the feels only.

 

Instantly dislikes Inigo because he reminds me of Teddie which is no good.. the only flirtatious character I've ever found amusing is Zevran or Atton Rand.. but this guy reeks of Persona Q Teddie.. Ugh

 

He's less clueless than Teddy, but also less charming.



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I don't think they're worth anything in the first place, so it's kind of like donating hearts to Palutina in Kid Icarus. Good for the feels only.

 

 

He's less clueless than Teddy, but also less charming.

Except that Teddie isn't in Persona Q -- He's endearing in Persona 4, in the spin-offs he's the opposite. That's basically what this character reminds me of. I'm liking most of the children so far though.



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I don't think they're worth anything in the first place, so it's kind of like donating hearts to Palutina in Kid Icarus. Good for the feels only.

You get item unlocks. I already got a few getting to like 10,000



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Instantly dislikes Inigo because he reminds me of Teddie which is no good.. the only flirtatious character I've ever found amusing is Zevran or Atton Rand.. but this guy reeks of Persona Q Teddie.. Ugh

 

You should look up Sain from Fire Emblem 7.



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Instantly dislikes Inigo because he reminds me of Teddie which is no good.. the only flirtatious character I've ever found amusing is Zevran or Atton Rand.. but this guy reeks of Persona Q Teddie.. Ugh

*Sprays you with water* No. Bad Chris. He's nowhere near Teddie bad.


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Now I'm curious as to why Fire Emblem characters don't have surnames. Inigo could use one...



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*Sprays you with water* No. Bad Chris. He's nowhere near Teddie bad.

I beg to differ. :/

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Having my son Morgan be voiced by Todd Haberkorn, however, is awesome. I'm also kinda liking him a lot. Looking forward to see how the see the ecstatic female counterpart on a future male MU playthrough

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Now I'm curious as to why Fire Emblem characters don't have surnames. Inigo could use one...

 

I mean really

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Having my son Morgan be voiced by Todd Haberkorn, however, is awesome. I'm also kinda liking him a lot. Looking forward to see how the see the ecstatic female counterpart on a future male MU playthrough

 

Maybe this is some sort of bias, but I generally enjoy the M!Robin/fem!Morgan dynamics more than the F!Robin/M!Morgan bits. I'm not sure what- maybe it's that M!Robin seems more mello, which plays off better with Morgan's sillyness.

 

Oi, Chris, have you reached that scene with daughter!Lucina in the endgame yet?



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Maybe this is some sort of bias, but I generally enjoy the M!Robin/fem!Morgan dynamics more than the F!Robin/M!Morgan bits. I'm not sure what- maybe it's that M!Robin seems more mello, which plays off better with Morgan's sillyness.
 
Oi, Chris, have you reached that scene with daughter!Lucina in the endgame yet?

Male Morgan is voiced by Todd Haberkorn, which means he automatically wins by default :I

Anyway, I enjoy Morgan and female Isina (she's not called Robin for me).. chose to name her something with "Is" in the front as a homage to Isara from Valkyria Chronicles (also voiced by Laura Bailey like Lucina).

No, I haven't gotten that far yet. Recruiting the last of the children now while building some stats and skills for the characters.

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Anybody beat Priam's paralogue on Lunatic? I have demi-god units and I still can't get through that map unscathed. 



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Brady is totally Kanji Tatsumi.



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Brady is totally Kanji Tatsumi.

Brady's pretty cool. I usually forget about him after awhile because by the time you get him there's other people that do his job better but I'm determined to get most of the supports in this playthrough. His interactions with Cynthia are pretty funny.



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The way he talks, especially to his mother -- Definitely Kanji, gonna see how his dialogue with Lucina is.. might actually see how the dialogue with her rolls.. especially considering their voice actors.


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Alright, finished the game -- Personally, really liked it.. I was actually gearing up for a downer ending but it ended up differently and I can still dig it. Gonna do some more playthroughs when I finish Q.



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Speaking of enjoying Awakening, I enjoy this post utterly sh*tting on it from the IGN boards after I questioned the same person for comparing it to Persona 3

 

"My main problem is that IS had to build the game around being a DLC platform. For that they needed to gimp the progression system and add a postgame, but they also needed to make DLC attractive to people in the middle of the campaign since the attachment rate would plummet if the DLC was postgame only. To me this paints the difficulty spikes and skirmish grinding as a decision made for monetization and not gameplay. The skill system is a hollow shell of what it was in previous games, being a gotta catch em all grindfest where instead of spending a rare item on a unit (or having units that come with powerful skills already), you level units the exact same way a bunch of times to get skills that range from useless to game breaking. I would much rather manage a finite number of skill scrolls like in Radiant Dawn than play Fire Emblem meets Final Fantasy Tactics Advance: Minor Upgrades Edition. 

 
As for the supports, it really comes down to the fact that Awakening's setting is about as interesting as watching grass grow. The single quirk characters had a single quirk out of necessity. There was no meaningful way to connect most of these guys to the already terrible plot. So instead of characters acting like people, they act like parodies of themselves. The Chrom/Sumia support was lemon stealing whores levels of self aware. That would be fine and all, but it's kind of difficult to appreciate no one taking things seriously when the rest of the series is about people being swept up in wars. They wanted to have a serious plot, but they also wanted to make jokes and parody the series at the same time, and they expected one to gel with the other and it didn't."


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Speaking of enjoying Awakening, I enjoy this post utterly sh*tting on it from the IGN boards after I questioned the same person for comparing it to Persona 3

 

"My main problem is that IS had to build the game around being a DLC platform. For that they needed to gimp the progression system and add a postgame, but they also needed to make DLC attractive to people in the middle of the campaign since the attachment rate would plummet if the DLC was postgame only. To me this paints the difficulty spikes and skirmish grinding as a decision made for monetization and not gameplay. The skill system is a hollow shell of what it was in previous games, being a gotta catch em all grindfest where instead of spending a rare item on a unit (or having units that come with powerful skills already), you level units the exact same way a bunch of times to get skills that range from useless to game breaking. I would much rather manage a finite number of skill scrolls like in Radiant Dawn than play Fire Emblem meets Final Fantasy Tactics Advance: Minor Upgrades Edition. 

 
As for the supports, it really comes down to the fact that Awakening's setting is about as interesting as watching grass grow. The single quirk characters had a single quirk out of necessity. There was no meaningful way to connect most of these guys to the already terrible plot. So instead of characters acting like people, they act like parodies of themselves. The Chrom/Sumia support was lemon stealing whores levels of self aware. That would be fine and all, but it's kind of difficult to appreciate no one taking things seriously when the rest of the series is about people being swept up in wars. They wanted to have a serious plot, but they also wanted to make jokes and parody the series at the same time, and they expected one to gel with the other and it didn't."

 

 

Lemon stealing whores of self-aware... that's some creative language. What does that even mean though?

 

It sounds like he/she has played the series pretty vociferously and is just being passionate like fans can be though I guess. I haven't played all the FEs to really know about all the gameplay stuff, as for the tactics portion it strikes me as somewhat similar to FF;Tactics type games, not really that different overall...



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Lemon stealing whores of self-aware... that's some creative language. What does that even mean though?

I think he was remarking on the Chrom/Sumia support being a reflection of the plot not being serious, therefore making it very self-aware. The analogy is weird though.

 

t sounds like he/she has played the series pretty vociferously and is just being passionate like fans can be though I guess. I haven't played all the FEs to really know about all the gameplay stuff, as for the tactics portion it strikes me as somewhat similar to FF;Tactics type games, not really that different overall...

As for this, I can't speak on FF Tactics in comparison to Fire Emblem as I haven't played it. What I can say is that out of the three FE games I have played Awakening is the least tactically inclined out of the trio for many reasons. The guy summarizes some of my thoughts on Awakening well enough which is why I like the post. Although to a much harsher degree. I can still find some merit in the tactical gameplay, supports, and the story whereas this guy seems utterly disgusted by it. Understandable though as I think there's a lot of things the next Fire Emblem needs to do better.



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Hm, well I was thinking of trying Shadow Dragon since it's on the e-shop and maybe it will make more sense.



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I enjoyed the gameplay a lot, and like how the support links factor into it, much like how social links factor into gameplay of the Persona games, though less so than the former. The marriage system is surprisingly complex, and there are actually some genuinely well-crafted characters among a lot of the cast. I think there depth and complexity are truly brought to a peak in the Future Past DLC, when the children meet their dead parents. It results in some pretty emotionally strong conversations, which really gave the story that edge, it showcases what it is that you're fighting for in your own world, even if the stakes don't feel quite as high as say.. if you played Dragon Age Origins, or even Persona 3. Ultimately, I liked Awakening and I hope the next Fire Emblem carry a lot of this game elements, don't trash them away, improve upon them, because there's lots of potential to improve here.



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I think I'd see some merit in that post if he combined both parts, DLC and characters. Want Lucina to painfully recall how her favorite pet hamster was mauled by Risen? Want characters that actually sound like they take their jobs seriously? Buy the Tearjerker pack now!

 

Hm, well I was thinking of trying Shadow Dragon since it's on the e-shop and maybe it will make more sense.

 

From what I hear (I honestly haven't played it), it tries to stay too faithful to the original. For instance, the weapon triangle is reworked to be barely present at all since it wasn't in the base.

 

On top of that, I think the art style is kinda ugly.



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If anyone is going to be in Tokyo in July there is going to be a concert celebrating the 25th Anniversary of Fire Emblem.

 

http://www.nintendol...coming_to_japan



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Bought the new 3ds XL with Fire Emblem: Awakening. Expect to arrive tomorrow :D