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[robarcool]

Did you get 50 or 75 Assault rifle kills medal in that game? If no, then probably it is an indication that revenant wasn't the thing killing enemies, it might be something else. Revenant isn't a bad gun, but unless you use it on destroyer or turian, it is underwhelming.

[Doommarine23]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

JediHarbinger wrote...

*cough* *cough* *cough* harrier *cough* *cough* *cough*

*coughcouch*harrier has limited ammo and less spread meaning its not as good for multiple enemies like the Revanent is*coughcouch*

 are you aware with piercing mods bullets can pierce enemies lol? 1 harrier bullet is worth 20 revanant bullets lol.

To be fair, the Revenant has much more ammo in both magazine and reserve, his point is also valid that the gun can spray and pray, the Harrier requires accuracy thus being harder to actually spray a group. Penetrating through another guy isn't really spray. And if we're going to seriously debate the guns, than I'm sorry, but No.

Lets realistically compare the Harrier to the Revenant. I will be doing Harrier 1 and Revenant 10, than Harrier 10. (Because majority of us have the gun at around 1-3, not 10)

Harrier 1

106 damage per shot
20  shots Per mag
80 Spare Bullets

Burst DPS 973
Sustained DPS 598

Revenant 10

80 damage per shot
60 shots per mag
480 spare bullets

Burst DPS 861
Sustained DPS 565

Remember, the Harrier is an Ultra-Rare and they by fundimental design, will outclass your Rares at level 10. But majority of us don't have them at 10. I only have a Harrier at 3. In other words, for a good portion of your gameplay expierence, they are fairly comparable, with the Revenant possibly being preferable due to a very big magazine and reserve.

For Reference

Harrier 10

130 damage per shot
20 shots per mag
100 spare bullets

Burst DPS 1187
Sustained DPS 729

It is quite a bit better than the Revenant, but still loses out in magazine size and reserves, and honestly if the Revenant works in Platinum/Gold, than who cares? If it works, it works. Use what you want. If they are both equally fun and viable.


Infact, go stick an extended mag and barrel on the Revenant for 99 damage per shot and 108 rounds in the mag.

That's pretty good in my opinion and a contender to the Harrier 1

Modifié par Doommarine23, 09 janvier 2013 - 08:04 .

[Silvair]

DullahansXMark wrote...

I love the reactions.

The OP just made his/her first Platinum success using it. This isn't like if Jay used the gun, because Jay can make any gun look good. This is someone who used this weapon to make his/her first Platinum success, and that says something about the gun.

Also, congrats OP.

Muchos danke.  

I love this gun, oh so much.  It suits me, and my playstyle.  Constant heavy firepower!

[Muhkida]

DullahansXMark wrote...

I love the reactions.

The OP just made his/her first Platinum success using it. This isn't like if Jay used the gun, because Jay can make any gun look good. This is someone who used this weapon to make his/her first Platinum success, and that says something about the gun.

Also, congrats OP.

Maybe OP is a natural "God of War" and is only holding him/herself back from unleashing Hell by using that awful gun.

[robarcool]

Doommarine23 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

JediHarbinger wrote...

*cough* *cough* *cough* harrier *cough* *cough* *cough*

*coughcouch*harrier has limited ammo and less spread meaning its not as good for multiple enemies like the Revanent is*coughcouch*

 are you aware with piercing mods bullets can pierce enemies lol? 1 harrier bullet is worth 20 revanant bullets lol.

To be fair, the Revenant has much more ammo in both magazine and reserve, his point is also valid that the gun can spray and pray, the Harrier requires accuracy thus being harder to actually spray a group. Penetrating through another guy isn't really spray. And if we're going to seriously debate the guns, than I'm sorry, but No.

Lets realistically compare the Harrier to the Revenant. I will be doing Harrier 1 and Revenant 10, than Harrier 10. (Because majority of us have the gun at around 1-3, not 10)

Harrier 1

106 damage per shot
20  shots Per mag
80 Spare Bullets

Burst DPS 973
Sustained DPS 598

Revenant 10

80 damage per shot
60 shots per mag
480 spare bullets

Burst DPS 861
Sustained DPS 565

Remember, the Harrier is an Ultra-Rare and they by fundimental design, will outclass your Rares at level 10. But majority of us don't have them at 10. I only have a Harrier at 3. In other words, for a good portion of your gameplay expierence, they are fairly comparable, with the Revenant possibly being preferable due to a very big magazine and reserve.

For Reference

Harrier 10

130 damage per shot
20 shots per mag
100 spare bullets

Burst DPS 1187
Sustained DPS 729

It is quite a bit better than the Revenant, but still loses out in magazine size and reserves, and honestly if the Revenant works in Platinum/Gold, than who cares? If it works, it works. Use what you want. If they are both equally fun and viable.


Infact, go stick an extended mag and barrel on the Revenant for 99 damage per shot and 108 rounds in the mag.

That's pretty good in my opinion and a contender to the Harrier 1

You point out the DPS, now point out DPS with Accuracy please. That will put the Revenant in its actual place.

[JediHarbinger]

DullahansXMark wrote...

I love the reactions.

The OP just made his/her first Platinum success using it. This isn't like if Jay used the gun, because Jay can make any gun look good. This is someone who used this weapon to make his/her first Platinum success, and that says something about the gun.

Also, congrats OP.

yes your right. He's excited and I guess we are all raining on his parade. You make a good point. But saying the Reverant is better than the Harrier is like saying a $10 bill is better than a $5 dollar bill... Over my dead body it is!!

[cgtrfghj7]

Their both good.
Though you'd probably have a very hard time if you're not using the Revenant on a Turian.

[Titus Thongger]

it's not terrible on a turian or a destroyer, but those guys make every weapon good.

there are better alternatives though.

[Vilyn117]

JediHarbinger wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

I love the reactions.

The OP just made his/her first Platinum success using it. This isn't like if Jay used the gun, because Jay can make any gun look good. This is someone who used this weapon to make his/her first Platinum success, and that says something about the gun.

Also, congrats OP.

yes your right. He's excited and I guess we are all raining on his parade. You make a good point. But saying the Reverant is better than the Harrier is like saying a $10 bill is better than a $5 dollar bill... Over my dead body it is!!

Some people would EASILY prfer the revenant just because of the high ammo capacity. It's like asking why anybody would ever choose an LMG in any game over an assault rifle. Because the LMGs always have **** tons more ammo.

[Doommarine23]

You realize how unfair that is of a comparison, because the Revenant is obviously not supposed to be used in the same manner. This is like complaining the Hurricane is inaccurate, or that shotguns are.

Adapt to the weapons you're using. The Revenant is an inaccurate recoiling beast, and needs to be up close and personal on classes and loadouts that can handle that.

The Harrier is an accurate battle-rifle that can be more suited towards accurate fire. You can't really say the Revenant is bad just because the way you're using it, isn't suited for its strength. I don't try to snipe with an SMG, for example.


Directed to Robarcool 

Modifié par Doommarine23, 09 janvier 2013 - 08:09 .

[Silvair]

Conduit0 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

It can't hit a crowd to save it's life.

It hits the ENTIRE crowd.  At once.  until the clip runs out of ammo.  The spread is a godsend.

... The spread could only count as a "godsend" if you're blind and are physically incapable of aiming. <_<

Or, if you know how to take advantage of spread.  That spread allows it to do things the other guns can't.

[DullahansXMark]

Vilyn117 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

I love the reactions.

The OP just made his/her first Platinum success using it. This isn't like if Jay used the gun, because Jay can make any gun look good. This is someone who used this weapon to make his/her first Platinum success, and that says something about the gun.

Also, congrats OP.

I usually disagree with everything you say. I commented again to specifically say I agree with this.

Also everybody really over exaggerates the spray. You people make it sound like it shoots half the screen. Standard it's not even that bad, put it on a class like the destroyer or anything with marskman and it becomes pretty damn accurate.

Well, I did take the main character chair away from Solid Snake 12 years ago. It's only natural for people to dislike everything about me.  Thankfully I can hold a sword in my foot 

[me0120]

JediHarbinger wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

I love the reactions.

The OP just made his/her first Platinum success using it. This isn't like if Jay used the gun, because Jay can make any gun look good. This is someone who used this weapon to make his/her first Platinum success, and that says something about the gun.

Also, congrats OP.

yes your right. He's excited and I guess we are all raining on his parade. You make a good point. But saying the Reverant is better than the Harrier is like saying a $10 bill is better than a $5 dollar bill... Over my dead body it is!!

The pattern is better, and the $5 bill actually has a president on it. 

(I hope you're not Canadian or Australian.)

[Kalas Magnus]

Had to make a new thread?

Guns are good or bad by comparison. The revenant is terrible when compared to the harrier, saber, typhoon or ppr. Another gun that is better is The hurricane.

The revenant is outclassed.

[darkpassenger2342]

@ dullahan
hey now, raiden is awesome.... especially in 2 months...

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 09 janvier 2013 - 08:10 .

[Silvair]

JediHarbinger wrote...

Silvair wrote...

JediHarbinger wrote...

*cough* *cough* *cough* harrier *cough* *cough* *cough*

*coughcouch*harrier has limited ammo and less spread meaning its not as good for multiple enemies like the Revanent is*coughcouch*

Lol. OP has a sense of humor! Cool. No ones knocking the Reverant. It's a good gun to have while one moves up but it fails in comparison to the harrier. And I've killed a mob of enemies many times with the harrier in one clip. The high dps allows you kill one enemie fast.  36 shots is a lot to rinse a mob 

That's one of the tradeoffs.  With the harrier, you kill one at a time, with the revenant, you kill them all at once.

[Doommarine23]

Kalas321 wrote...

Had to make a new thread?

Guns are good or bad by comparison. The revenant is terrible when compared to the harrier, saber, typhoon or ppr. Another gun that is better is The hurricane.

The revenant is outclassed.

Those are all Ultra-Rares and the Hurricane is a Promotional, and if all those guns are Gold Viable, than who cares if it is "outclassed"? Within that, a lot of those guns have draw-backs or unique quirks that suit different play-styles.

I already described the Harrier, the Saber is pretty obvious as it's a slow recoiling accurate rifle, which the Revenant could possibly out-shoot, by pure ROF. The Typhoon is extremely heavy, has less ammo, (one magazine's worth), and must spin up. The PPR has a limited range, while also only doing the damage of a Locust untill it heats up.

The Hurricane is the only oddball, but it has bad accurate and recoil too.

[darkpassenger2342]

Silvair wrote...
with the revenant, you kill them all at once.

 its statements like this that are keeping this thread sarcastic instead of congraulatory.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 09 janvier 2013 - 08:13 .

[Conduit0]

Doommarine23 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

JediHarbinger wrote...

*cough* *cough* *cough* harrier *cough* *cough* *cough*

*coughcouch*harrier has limited ammo and less spread meaning its not as good for multiple enemies like the Revanent is*coughcouch*

 are you aware with piercing mods bullets can pierce enemies lol? 1 harrier bullet is worth 20 revanant bullets lol.

To be fair, the Revenant has much more ammo in both magazine and reserve, his point is also valid that the gun can spray and pray, the Harrier requires accuracy thus being harder to actually spray a group. Penetrating through another guy isn't really spray. And if we're going to seriously debate the guns, than I'm sorry, but No.

Lets realistically compare the Harrier to the Revenant. I will be doing Harrier 1 and Revenant 10, than Harrier 10. (Because majority of us have the gun at around 1-3, not 10)

Harrier 1

106 damage per shot
20  shots Per mag
80 Spare Bullets

Burst DPS 973
Sustained DPS 598

Revenant 10

80 damage per shot
60 shots per mag
480 spare bullets

Burst DPS 861
Sustained DPS 565

Remember, the Harrier is an Ultra-Rare and they by fundimental design, will outclass your Rares at level 10. But majority of us don't have them at 10. I only have a Harrier at 3. In other words, for a good portion of your gameplay expierence, they are fairly comparable, with the Revenant possibly being preferable due to a very big magazine and reserve.

For Reference

Harrier 10

130 damage per shot
20 shots per mag
100 spare bullets

Burst DPS 1187
Sustained DPS 729

It is quite a bit better than the Revenant, but still loses out in magazine size and reserves, and honestly if the Revenant works in Platinum/Gold, than who cares? If it works, it works. Use what you want. If they are both equally fun and viable.


Infact, go stick an extended mag and barrel on the Revenant for 99 damage per shot and 108 rounds in the mag.

That's pretty good in my opinion and a contender to the Harrier 1

Your comparison doesn't take accuracy into account, the Revenant's DPS tanks when a third or more of your rounds will never hit anything smaller than an Atlas at ranges greater than 10 meters.

Sure if you want to go CQC and ram the barrel down the enemies throat, then the revenant might give the harrier a run for its money, but at anything else, the harrier wins hands down.

[Doommarine23]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

 its statements like this that are keeping this thread sarcastic instead of jovial.

You know, now I'm starting to wonder if the OP is sarcastic or not. 

[darkpassenger2342]

Doommarine23 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

 its statements like this that are keeping this thread sarcastic instead of jovial.

You know, now I'm starting to wonder if the OP is sarcastic or not. 

his/her other threads arent.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 09 janvier 2013 - 08:14 .

[mybudgee]

Revenant/locust/scimitar: shells of thier former selves

[Doommarine23]

Conduit0 wrote...

Your comparison doesn't take accuracy into account, the Revenant's DPS tanks when a third or more of your rounds will never hit anything smaller than an Atlas at ranges greater than 10 meters.

Sure if you want to go CQC and ram the barrel down the enemies throat, then the revenant might give the harrier a run for its money, but at anything else, the harrier wins hands down.

As I said before, you are not using the gun properly to its strength and weaknesses.

Think about it


Sure if you want to go CQC and ram the barrel down the enemies throat.

It's a heavy inaccurate recoiling Machine-Gun that excells at close-range, hordes of enemies and big guys. Why would you use it on classes its not effective on, or at ranges/situations its not effective at.

[JediHarbinger]

@vilyn, ok so I guess the Phaeston, geth pulse rifle, collector rifle or any rifle with more ammo in its chamber is better than the harrier in your eyes. Your judging how much ammo is in one clip then. The harrier is a long range AND a short gun with a max amount of 36 when you use equipment. It's the pinnacle of what a assault rifle should be. But to each is own.. They should NERF the Reverant then.

but good work OP on the match. Glad you found a gun you like using.

Modifié par JediHarbinger, 09 janvier 2013 - 08:16 .

[Hausner85]

Silvair wrote...

ABjerre wrote...

Reverant is good for getting assists - spray in the general direction of the enemies and someone is bound to eventually get hit.

Killing stuff however, is an entirely different matter...

Not really, I was still killing things faster than everyone else, this is including the guy with the harrier.  On the one wave that I died, they took a lot longer to get through the wave.

Now granted, this is on my destroyer, but if I went harrier on my destroyer, i'd be the one getting destroyed.  Harrier just flat doesn't suit the purpose as well.  its a burst fire gun, not a sustained fire gun.

Revenant performed well because on platinum you fight bosses mostly, so the spray isn't an issue the height ammo capacity and fire rate and lots of spare ammo are big advantages. So the main drawback was absent and the strengths were in height demand. It's a nice weapon for plat (very often better than Harrier) it's good for gold reapers and maybe collectors but it's bad for Cerb and Geth when you rely on headshots. You can call it a specialized weapon..       I would take him/her with destroyer and revenant over some some one with Harrier I-III who will have to run every 30 sec for ammo... It's doesn't matter how high is Harrier DPS if you not dealing it because your on your next trip to ammo box...And this is a serious problem with Harrier on Plat  

Modifié par Hausner85, 09 janvier 2013 - 08:21 .