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[Major Durza]

You ARE using it on a Destroyer, and everyone who has tried this knows that this is almost as good as a Typhoon on the character.
I can see doing well on Platinum with this setup. I know it worked absolute wonders when the Destroyer was first launched.

But keep in mind that the Revenant is good on the Turian Soldier, Destroyer, and Geth and that's about it.. If it does not have ROF and accuracy bonuses it does not do well at all.

This speaks more about the class-weapon synergy much more than just the weapon.
Harrier is much better and a wider variety of classes, or will be until they fix the recoil bug.

[ABjerre]

Silvair wrote...

ABjerre wrote...

Reverant is good for getting assists - spray in the general direction of the enemies and someone is bound to eventually get hit.

Killing stuff however, is an entirely different matter...

Not really, I was still killing things faster than everyone else, this is including the guy with the harrier.  On the one wave that I died, they took a lot longer to get through the wave.

Now granted, this is on my destroyer, but if I went harrier on my destroyer, i'd be the one getting destroyed.  Harrier just flat doesn't suit the purpose as well.  its a burst fire gun, not a sustained fire gun.

Well, if this is your oppinion i am in no position to knock that. My experience is merely that what ever the Reverant does, there are other guns that do it better. I enjoyed it on my TSol when i started playing, but after i got other weapons (back then it was the Saber in particular) i more or less stopped using it for anything but having fun once in a while.

I edited the post that you quoted after posting it (but prior to you posting your response) and added:

"... the Reverant is decent. The problem is that it is only decent when paired with sertain specs and / or kits and gear. That by comparison makes it inferior to other AR's that do not require these setups in order to be efficient.

The Reverant: Nice ROF, ton of ammo, sorta good damage when considering how many bullets you have. This is completely negated by the lack of being able to hit anything. As a result people people go for:

The Mattock: Higer damage and lower ammo - but still enough considering its accuracy. Somewhat negated by the fact that your index finger is the limiter here when it comes to ROF. So instead people go for:

The Harrier: Higher damage and higher accuracy (than the Reverant), high ROF, no ammo though.

I trust that you are beginning to see a pattern here, yes? Accuracy, Damage, Ammo, ROF - pick any 3, but only 3."

I tend to like having accuracy, damage and ROF as i am already spending copious amounts of thermal clips for 'nades, and that negates the lack of ammo in most cases.

Btw, i'm having trouble looking at your manifest...

Modifié par ABjerre, 09 janvier 2013 - 08:21 .

[JediHarbinger]

me0120 wrote...

JediHarbinger wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

I love the reactions.

The OP just made his/her first Platinum success using it. This isn't like if Jay used the gun, because Jay can make any gun look good. This is someone who used this weapon to make his/her first Platinum success, and that says something about the gun.

Also, congrats OP.

yes your right. He's excited and I guess we are all raining on his parade. You make a good point. But saying the Reverant is better than the Harrier is like saying a $10 bill is better than a $5 dollar bill... Over my dead body it is!!

No sire from the good ole USA

The pattern is better, and the $5 bill actually has a president on it. 

(I hope you're not Canadian or Australian.)

[JediHarbinger]

You can kill MULTIPLE enemies with the harrier. I do it all the time.. Ahh. Seeing four marauders dead by just one clip from the harrier is glorious.

[Doommarine23]

JediHarbinger wrote...

You can kill MULTIPLE enemies with the harrier. I do it all the time.. Ahh. Seeing four marauders dead by just one clip from the harrier is glorious.

Nothing is more satisfying than Hunter mode with the Harrier. 

[Silvair]

Doommarine23 wrote...

You realize how unfair that is of a comparison, because the Revenant is obviously not supposed to be used in the same manner. This is like complaining the Hurricane is inaccurate, or that shotguns are.

Adapt to the weapons you're using. The Revenant is an inaccurate recoiling beast, and needs to be up close and personal on classes and loadouts that can handle that.

The Harrier is an accurate battle-rifle that can be more suited towards accurate fire. You can't really say the Revenant is bad just because the way you're using it, isn't suited for its strength. I don't try to snipe with an SMG, for example.


Directed to Robarcool 

THANK YOU.

[me0120]

Personally, I'm not a fan of movement speed penalties.

[JediHarbinger]

Doommarine23 wrote...

JediHarbinger wrote...

You can kill MULTIPLE enemies with the harrier. I do it all the time.. Ahh. Seeing four marauders dead by just one clip from the harrier is glorious.

Nothing is more satisfying than Hunter mode with the Harrier. 

damn right dude

[robarcool]

Silvair wrote...

Doommarine23 wrote...

You realize how unfair that is of a comparison, because the Revenant is obviously not supposed to be used in the same manner. This is like complaining the Hurricane is inaccurate, or that shotguns are.

Adapt to the weapons you're using. The Revenant is an inaccurate recoiling beast, and needs to be up close and personal on classes and loadouts that can handle that.

The Harrier is an accurate battle-rifle that can be more suited towards accurate fire. You can't really say the Revenant is bad just because the way you're using it, isn't suited for its strength. I don't try to snipe with an SMG, for example.


Directed to Robarcool 

THANK YOU.

Thank him all you want, you will eventually accept the inferiority of revenant when used on classes other than Turians and destroyer. Revenant was a great gun in ME2, now it is underwhelming in general.

Modifié par robarcool, 09 janvier 2013 - 08:29 .

[Silvair]

me0120 wrote...

Personally, I'm not a fan of movement speed penalties.

Doesn't bother me, i'm very used to, and comfortable with, slow power characters.

[nhcre8tv1]

robarcool wrote...
Thank him all you want, you will eventually accept the inferiority of revenant when used on classes other than Turians and destroyer. Revenant was a great gun in ME2, now it is underwhelming in general.

Try it on the Fury or Melee/Snap Freeze Paladin sometime.

[koschwarz74]

most of the players feel that they are lame without the harrier, they can get on only with the harrier and so they compare EVERYTHING to it. or to the claymore, or to the hurricane...

revenant is ok, they are sheep, don't join them.

(how is it possible that i could outscore everybody with ease yesterday in several matches with one of the lamest class in the entire game, the vorcha hunter, wielding only carnifex? probably they didn't use the harrier...ok, i was stuck up now )

EDIT: you proved them wrong, so they are confused now...

Modifié par koschwarz74, 09 janvier 2013 - 08:35 .

[Silvair]

robarcool wrote...

Silvair wrote...

Doommarine23 wrote...

You realize how unfair that is of a comparison, because the Revenant is obviously not supposed to be used in the same manner. This is like complaining the Hurricane is inaccurate, or that shotguns are.

Adapt to the weapons you're using. The Revenant is an inaccurate recoiling beast, and needs to be up close and personal on classes and loadouts that can handle that.

The Harrier is an accurate battle-rifle that can be more suited towards accurate fire. You can't really say the Revenant is bad just because the way you're using it, isn't suited for its strength. I don't try to snipe with an SMG, for example.


Directed to Robarcool 

THANK YOU.

Thank him all you want, you will eventually accept the inferiority of revenant when used on classes other than Turians and destroyer. Revenant was a great gun in ME2, now it is underwhelming in general.

Why would I use the revenant on another class?  Its like putting the harrier on a destroyer:  That's not what it's for, and its not going to do as well with that class as the other gun would.

Different guns have different roles.

Truth is, the harrier is completely inferior to the revenant, for what I need out of a gun.  I need heavy and sustained firepower with the capability to handle (and stagger) multiple enemies at once, that is something the harrier just cannot provide.

The only classes i'd use the harrier on are like...turian havoc, and other melee classes.  Yaknow, classes that I am not really using guns on anyway, so thats probably the best "filler" gun.  Otherwise, if i'm going sniper, or soldier, or engineer, there's more suitable guns than the Harrier.

Modifié par Silvair, 09 janvier 2013 - 08:37 .

[robarcool]

Silvair wrote...

robarcool wrote...

Silvair wrote...

Doommarine23 wrote...

You realize how unfair that is of a comparison, because the Revenant is obviously not supposed to be used in the same manner. This is like complaining the Hurricane is inaccurate, or that shotguns are.

Adapt to the weapons you're using. The Revenant is an inaccurate recoiling beast, and needs to be up close and personal on classes and loadouts that can handle that.

The Harrier is an accurate battle-rifle that can be more suited towards accurate fire. You can't really say the Revenant is bad just because the way you're using it, isn't suited for its strength. I don't try to snipe with an SMG, for example.


Directed to Robarcool 

THANK YOU.

Thank him all you want, you will eventually accept the inferiority of revenant when used on classes other than Turians and destroyer. Revenant was a great gun in ME2, now it is underwhelming in general.

Why would I use the revenant on another class?  Its like putting the harrier on a destroyer:  That's not what it's for, and its not going to do as well with that class as the other gun would.

Different guns have different roles.

Truth is, the harrier is completely inferior to the revenant, for what I need out of a gun.  I need heavy and sustained firepower with the capability to handle (and stagger) multiple enemies at once, that is something the harrier just cannot provide.

No further discussions. You accepted that it's your subjective opinion. Also, I have put Harrier on destroyer for the lulz. Stuff goes down real fast.

[JediHarbinger]

Inferior? I'm suddenly getting nausea.. Nonetheless, good topic OP. getting people fired up around here.

[me0120]

Silvair wrote...

Why would I use the revenant on another class?  Its like putting the harrier on a destroyer:  That's not what it's for, and its not going to do as well with that class as the other gun would.

Different guns have different roles.

If it's not great on every character, or have the ability to 1 hit Phantoms, BSN don't like it.

[CoffeeHolic93]

Silvair wrote...

ABjerre wrote...

Reverant is good for getting assists - spray in the general direction of the enemies and someone is bound to eventually get hit.

Killing stuff however, is an entirely different matter...

Not really, I was still killing things faster than everyone else, this is including the guy with the harrier.  On the one wave that I died, they took a lot longer to get through the wave.

Now granted, this is on my destroyer, but if I went harrier on my destroyer, i'd be the one getting destroyed.  Harrier just flat doesn't suit the purpose as well.  its a burst fire gun, not a sustained fire gun.

The Revvy is pretty decent on the Destroyer. It benefits from the increased ROF and the Accuracy.

If I may ask, did you spec for hawk or multi-frag?

[Silvair]

robarcool wrote...

Silvair wrote...

robarcool wrote...

Silvair wrote...

Doommarine23 wrote...

You realize how unfair that is of a comparison, because the Revenant is obviously not supposed to be used in the same manner. This is like complaining the Hurricane is inaccurate, or that shotguns are.

Adapt to the weapons you're using. The Revenant is an inaccurate recoiling beast, and needs to be up close and personal on classes and loadouts that can handle that.

The Harrier is an accurate battle-rifle that can be more suited towards accurate fire. You can't really say the Revenant is bad just because the way you're using it, isn't suited for its strength. I don't try to snipe with an SMG, for example.


Directed to Robarcool 

THANK YOU.

Thank him all you want, you will eventually accept the inferiority of revenant when used on classes other than Turians and destroyer. Revenant was a great gun in ME2, now it is underwhelming in general.

Why would I use the revenant on another class?  Its like putting the harrier on a destroyer:  That's not what it's for, and its not going to do as well with that class as the other gun would.

Different guns have different roles.

Truth is, the harrier is completely inferior to the revenant, for what I need out of a gun.  I need heavy and sustained firepower with the capability to handle (and stagger) multiple enemies at once, that is something the harrier just cannot provide.

No further discussions. You accepted that it's your subjective opinion. Also, I have put Harrier on destroyer for the lulz. Stuff goes down real fast.

I have too, and Destroyer+Harrier is just a turian marksman, while destroyer+revenant is a full on force of destruction.

[Kenadian]

Anything the Revenant can do, other guns can do better.

[Silvair]

Mi-Chan wrote...

Silvair wrote...

ABjerre wrote...

Reverant is good for getting assists - spray in the general direction of the enemies and someone is bound to eventually get hit.

Killing stuff however, is an entirely different matter...

Not really, I was still killing things faster than everyone else, this is including the guy with the harrier.  On the one wave that I died, they took a lot longer to get through the wave.

Now granted, this is on my destroyer, but if I went harrier on my destroyer, i'd be the one getting destroyed.  Harrier just flat doesn't suit the purpose as well.  its a burst fire gun, not a sustained fire gun.

The Revvy is pretty decent on the Destroyer. It benefits from the increased ROF and the Accuracy.

If I may ask, did you spec for hawk or multi-frag?

As of right now, was trying the Cobra instead of hawk, and only level 3 of multifrags.

[3XT3RM1N4TUS]

So what? I scored 130-140k with Phaeston on gold and it still sucks.

[Kenadian]

Silvair wrote...

Mi-Chan wrote...

Silvair wrote...

ABjerre wrote...

Reverant is good for getting assists - spray in the general direction of the enemies and someone is bound to eventually get hit.

Killing stuff however, is an entirely different matter...

Not really, I was still killing things faster than everyone else, this is including the guy with the harrier.  On the one wave that I died, they took a lot longer to get through the wave.

Now granted, this is on my destroyer, but if I went harrier on my destroyer, i'd be the one getting destroyed.  Harrier just flat doesn't suit the purpose as well.  its a burst fire gun, not a sustained fire gun.

The Revvy is pretty decent on the Destroyer. It benefits from the increased ROF and the Accuracy.

If I may ask, did you spec for hawk or multi-frag?

As of right now, was trying the Cobra instead of hawk, and only level 3 of multifrags.

Cobra is definitely inferior to Hydra missiles due to the ****ty pathing on the missiles. Hydra compensates for that by firing 3 missiles instead of 1.

[Koenig888]

Having just done the Revenant challenge, I can say that the Revenant is an inferior AR. Even when used by the TGI, I only topped the scoreboard once and in that game, despite getting the 50 AR kills medal, I did not even get a bronze head-shots medal. With the Revenant's terrible accuracy and recoil, better ammo alone is no reason to take it over the Harrier.

If the OP can post a screen-shot of the scoreboard for his Platinum game, it would provide a better picture of where he is getting the points from - assists or kills, number of headshots etc.

[JediHarbinger]

Harrier is Turian Marksmen?! Reverant is Destruction?! What the hell? You messing with my zen here!

[JediHarbinger]

JediHarbinger wrote...

Harrier is Turian Marksmen?! Revenant is Destruction?! What the hell? You messing with my zen here!