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[darkpassenger2342]

Silvair wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

If you want a "sustained fire" weapon, the Prothean Particle Rifle makes a joke of the Revenant.

You might actually have an argument for the Revenant being good at suppressive fire, if the enemies in ME3 actually responded to suppressive fire.... Most of them don't.

1)  Particle Rifle still has the issue of only being good for one target at a time.
2)  They do respond due to being constantly staggered, plus certain enemies retreat when their shields/health goes down.

completely false. try a piercing mod, ap ammo, heavy barrel, drill ammo....

Still true unless there's a mod to make the particle rifle spread its beam into a cone or something.

what particle rifle do you have?

Don't have it in MP, but you are talking about the prothean gun, the one Jarek comes with in single player, correct?  The one that fires a sustained beam?  Or am I mixing it up with another gun?

 i almost want to say this in caps....
so you dont have the particle rifle, even the I, and you would claim the revenant is a better gun?
youre really building some stellar credibility for yourself

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 09 janvier 2013 - 09:30 .

[Computron2000]

If you're in the box on Rio, the revenant works on plat. Thats my guess on where OP was

[Nissun]

"Jarek"









I don't know why that made me laugh so much.

[me0120]

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

@me0120

I barely use amps unless it is a legion game. Still rock hard.

Also i prefer the bonus power damage for my stickys/pmines/overload to murder armored/shielded targets

I'm just having a hard time understanding how a Vanilla Human Soldier can sustain 600 rounds worth of fire with a movement speed penalty without being in cover long enough to reload other guns. I'm not doubting you or your ability, it just seems like a strange combination that happens to mesh well with your playstyle.

[LegionofRannoch]

Silvair wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

If you want a "sustained fire" weapon, the Prothean Particle Rifle makes a joke of the Revenant.

You might actually have an argument for the Revenant being good at suppressive fire, if the enemies in ME3 actually responded to suppressive fire.... Most of them don't.

1)  Particle Rifle still has the issue of only being good for one target at a time.
2)  They do respond due to being constantly staggered, plus certain enemies retreat when their shields/health goes down.

1) heavy barrel. also you can wave your laser pointer at other targets.

2)they dont get constantly staggered. they get staggered the moment you shoot them and either decide to rush or go to cover. most enemys rush you. troopers go to cover.

[darkpassenger2342]

me0120 wrote...

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

@me0120

I barely use amps unless it is a legion game. Still rock hard.

Also i prefer the bonus power damage for my stickys/pmines/overload to murder armored/shielded targets

I'm just having a hard time understanding how a Vanilla Human Soldier can sustain 600 rounds worth of fire with a movement speed penalty without being in cover long enough to reload other guns. I'm not doubting you or your ability, it just seems like a strange combination that happens to mesh well with your playstyle.

 you mean like charlie sheen hot shots 2?

[LegionofRannoch]

Nissun wrote...

"Jarek"









I don't know why that made me laugh so much.

your not alone

[darkpassenger2342]

LegionofRannoch wrote...

Silvair wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

If you want a "sustained fire" weapon, the Prothean Particle Rifle makes a joke of the Revenant.

You might actually have an argument for the Revenant being good at suppressive fire, if the enemies in ME3 actually responded to suppressive fire.... Most of them don't.

1)  Particle Rifle still has the issue of only being good for one target at a time.
2)  They do respond due to being constantly staggered, plus certain enemies retreat when their shields/health goes down.

1) heavy barrel. also you can wave your laser pointer at other targets.

2)they dont get constantly staggered. they get staggered the moment you shoot them and either decide to rush or go to cover. most enemys rush you. troopers go to cover.

they dont even have the gun dude.

[LadyAlekto]

me0120 wrote...

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

@me0120

I barely use amps unless it is a legion game. Still rock hard.

Also i prefer the bonus power damage for my stickys/pmines/overload to murder armored/shielded targets

I'm just having a hard time understanding how a Vanilla Human Soldier can sustain 600 rounds worth of fire with a movement speed penalty without being in cover long enough to reload other guns. I'm not doubting you or your ability, it just seems like a strange combination that happens to mesh well with your playstyle.

Hard cover+ arush reload+ arush shields + proper aim-.-

[Silvair]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

If you want a "sustained fire" weapon, the Prothean Particle Rifle makes a joke of the Revenant.

You might actually have an argument for the Revenant being good at suppressive fire, if the enemies in ME3 actually responded to suppressive fire.... Most of them don't.

1)  Particle Rifle still has the issue of only being good for one target at a time.
2)  They do respond due to being constantly staggered, plus certain enemies retreat when their shields/health goes down.

completely false. try a piercing mod, ap ammo, heavy barrel, drill ammo....

Still true unless there's a mod to make the particle rifle spread its beam into a cone or something.

what particle rifle do you have?

Don't have it in MP, but you are talking about the prothean gun, the one Jarek comes with in single player, correct?  The one that fires a sustained beam?  Or am I mixing it up with another gun?

 i almost want to say this in caps....
so you dont have the particle rifle, even the I, and you would claim the revenant is a better gun?
youre really building some stellar credibility for yourself

Well at least i'm not the guy trying to say one gun is "better" than another overall, when both are for two entirely different purposes.  THATS some bad credibility, right there...

[LegionofRannoch]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

Silvair wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

If you want a "sustained fire" weapon, the Prothean Particle Rifle makes a joke of the Revenant.

You might actually have an argument for the Revenant being good at suppressive fire, if the enemies in ME3 actually responded to suppressive fire.... Most of them don't.

1)  Particle Rifle still has the issue of only being good for one target at a time.
2)  They do respond due to being constantly staggered, plus certain enemies retreat when their shields/health goes down.

1) heavy barrel. also you can wave your laser pointer at other targets.

2)they dont get constantly staggered. they get staggered the moment you shoot them and either decide to rush or go to cover. most enemys rush you. troopers go to cover.

they dont even have the gun dude.

i know i just saw that lol

[Eriseley]

Huh, I thought ShadedPhoenix was on the PS3 for some reason. Hit me up for a game some time, I like my dakka dakka soldiers. Origin ID is same as forum login.

[darkpassenger2342]

Silvair wrote...

Well at least i'm not the guy trying to say one gun is "better" than another overall, when both are for two entirely different purposes.  THATS some bad credibility, right there...

ashen earth only said the gun is better because it is, lol i wouldnt worry about his credibility issues.
 you, on the other hand, claimed the revenant outclasses the PPR and dont even have it.
 theres no reason to trash you for not having a gun, but dont pretend you know how it operates, especially when the dude youre arguing with has the X.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 09 janvier 2013 - 09:40 .

[Kenadian]

Silvair wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

If you want a "sustained fire" weapon, the Prothean Particle Rifle makes a joke of the Revenant.

You might actually have an argument for the Revenant being good at suppressive fire, if the enemies in ME3 actually responded to suppressive fire.... Most of them don't.

1)  Particle Rifle still has the issue of only being good for one target at a time.
2)  They do respond due to being constantly staggered, plus certain enemies retreat when their shields/health goes down.

completely false. try a piercing mod, ap ammo, heavy barrel, drill ammo....

Still true unless there's a mod to make the particle rifle spread its beam into a cone or something.

what particle rifle do you have?

Don't have it in MP, but you are talking about the prothean gun, the one Jarek comes with in single player, correct?  The one that fires a sustained beam?  Or am I mixing it up with another gun?

 i almost want to say this in caps....
so you dont have the particle rifle, even the I, and you would claim the revenant is a better gun?
youre really building some stellar credibility for yourself

Well at least i'm not the guy trying to say one gun is "better" than another overall, when both are for two entirely different purposes.  THATS some bad credibility, right there...

They aren't completely different purposes. They've high ROF, sustained DPS weapons. The only thing separating them mechanically is the recharge mechanic on the PPR and the utterly **** accuracy on the Revenant. Every weapon similar to the Rev is better than it. Period. The only weapon similar to it that ISN'T outright better than it is the Phaeston, but atleast that can hit things.

[LegionofRannoch]

Silvair wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

If you want a "sustained fire" weapon, the Prothean Particle Rifle makes a joke of the Revenant.

You might actually have an argument for the Revenant being good at suppressive fire, if the enemies in ME3 actually responded to suppressive fire.... Most of them don't.

1)  Particle Rifle still has the issue of only being good for one target at a time.
2)  They do respond due to being constantly staggered, plus certain enemies retreat when their shields/health goes down.

completely false. try a piercing mod, ap ammo, heavy barrel, drill ammo....

Still true unless there's a mod to make the particle rifle spread its beam into a cone or something.

what particle rifle do you have?

Don't have it in MP, but you are talking about the prothean gun, the one Jarek comes with in single player, correct?  The one that fires a sustained beam?  Or am I mixing it up with another gun?

 i almost want to say this in caps....
so you dont have the particle rifle, even the I, and you would claim the revenant is a better gun?
youre really building some stellar credibility for yourself

Well at least i'm not the guy trying to say one gun is "better" than another overall, when both are for two entirely different purposes.  THATS some bad credibility, right there...

and what would that be? one is for shooting enemies and the other is a vase for flowers?

[4ut0b4hn5child27]

i will start using revenant again

[HolyAvenger]

I want to like this gun, I really do (loved in ME2). On Gold, I can make it work on a TSol.

On plat I'm having issues putting out enough DPS. With my usual plat crew I score between 100-150k points a game no issues, rocking pretty much any gun and kit (heck, I ran a Mattock HEng last night on plat and scored in that range). With my Revenant TSol? 70k. Weirdly enough I find it a better mook killer than boss killer though several people I respect as better players than me have told me otherwise.

Can anyone put up some Plat gameplay using it on a TSol on youtube? Maybe I'm using it wrong?

[LadyAlekto]

Eriseley wrote...

Huh, I thought ShadedPhoenix was on the PS3 for some reason. Hit me up for a game some time, I like my dakka dakka soldiers. Origin ID is same as forum login.

Get to the legion, im looking for my games there, aint no fun to care for braindead apes in pub games

[Tec187]

wow this thread is full of.....something.

[Silvair]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

Well at least i'm not the guy trying to say one gun is "better" than another overall, when both are for two entirely different purposes.  THATS some bad credibility, right there...

ashen earth only said the gun is better because it is, lol i wouldnt worry about his credibility issues.
 you, on the other hand, claimed the revenant outclasses the PPR and dont even have it.
 theres no reason to trash you for not having a gun, but dont pretend you know how it operates, especially when the dude youre arguing with has the X.

I didn't say it "outclasses" it, I said it has a bigger spread.  Which I'm pretty sure it does..

Modifié par Silvair, 09 janvier 2013 - 09:42 .

[Nissun]

Visual representation of the Revenant's spread:



Unfortunately, we're not watering plants. And yeah, this may be good to hit a group of targets all at once, but don't pretend that they'll all die before you do. Because they won't. Because they may get staggered, but if you're firing upon a tight group of, say, 4 Marauders, they will get you killed (probably before you even manage to take down their shields)

That being said: I like the Revenant. I like the sound, the look, the fell, the prolongued fire. But I wish the spread wasn't so brutal. And I wish it didn't slow you down when you fire it. Because those things make using it a real challenge, and while I like challenges, it's really hard to take the Revenant when even a Phaeston is just more effective.

[darkpassenger2342]

^ lol!

[JediHarbinger]

Silvair wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

Well at least i'm not the guy trying to say one gun is "better" than another overall, when both are for two entirely different purposes.  THATS some bad credibility, right there...

ashen earth only said the gun is better because it is, lol i wouldnt worry about his credibility issues.
 you, on the other hand, claimed the revenant outclasses the PPR and dont even have it.
 theres no reason to trash you for not having a gun, but dont pretend you know how it operates, especially when the dude youre arguing with has the X.

thought you said it was a inferior weapon. Must be seeing things.

I didn't say it "outclasses" it, I said it has a bigger spread.  Which I'm pretty sure it does..

[JediHarbinger]

Thought you said it was superior to all. Must be seeing things. 

Modifié par JediHarbinger, 09 janvier 2013 - 09:48 .

[Nissun]

Silvair wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

Well at least i'm not the guy trying to say one gun is "better" than another overall, when both are for two entirely different purposes.  THATS some bad credibility, right there...

ashen earth only said the gun is better because it is, lol i wouldnt worry about his credibility issues.
 you, on the other hand, claimed the revenant outclasses the PPR and dont even have it.
 theres no reason to trash you for not having a gun, but dont pretend you know how it operates, especially when the dude youre arguing with has the X.

I didn't say it "outclasses" it, I said it has a bigger spread.  Which I'm pretty sure it does..

You are ignoring the fact that aiming that beam of light to the belly of a Trooper for half a second KILLS the target. IN HALF A SECOND. The PPR can mow down an entire group of troopers far better than the Revenant. Yeah, you have to aim at each one, but they die so fast that it's a non-issue.

Let's not even mention what happens when you headshot them.