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[Zerker]

Since the new dragon age decided to use the concept of Inquisition, I cannot help but to think of this;



Finding a solution for a petty conflict is irrelevant. That's not being an Inquisitor is about.

BURN THE HERETIC
KILL THE MUTANT
PURGE THE UNCLEAN

That's what an INQUISITOR does.

We need to burn these miserable mages and watch them die in horror, purge the demons from the face of this earth, kill every elf, dwarf or qunari scum we stumble on FOR THE GLORY OF MANKIND.

That's what inquisition is.

Our time has come my battle-brothers, don't show pity for these witches or their sympathizers, don't hesitate to cleanse these wretched non-humans with the HOLY FIRE OF TERRA.

This is the age of mankind, make sure it stays that way.

Modifié par Maddok900, 09 janvier 2013 - 11:34 .

[Celene II]

Unless the Inquisitor is one of those unclean witches then mundanes better watch out.

[The Elder King]

I'm sorry to disappoint you, OP, but there are high chances that the Inquisition will not act as you wish, at least not in every game.
Since it's likely that the Inquisition will be the PC's organization, and the PC could be a mage, and that Bioware will not force an anti-mage attitude on the PC, the Inquisition will probably be "neutral". You might have the choice of using it to hunt mages, though.

[Althix]

Celene II wrote...

Unless the Inquisitor is one of those unclean witches then mundanes better watch out.

Yes, they will eventually come to our side, maybe some daemons pets or daemonic weapon. We will have their asses sooner or later. Thing is that Warp is eternal, human is not.

Also Imperium of Man is a cruel, faschist, ignorant and dark society. Those who should be next step for human evolution as Emperor designed, now branded as witches and mutants. Yes there is sanctioned psykers in 40k, but they are still threated like witches and mutants.

And yes daemonic possession for every one! Let your body be possessed today and you will get a cookie as a gift from Chaos Gods.

Modifié par secretsandlies, 09 janvier 2013 - 12:07 .

[Zerker]

secretsandlies wrote...

Yes, they will eventually come to our side, maybe some daemons pets or daemonic weapon. We will have their asses sooner or later. Thing is that Warp is eternal, human is not.

Also Imperium of Man is a cruel, faschist, ignorant and dark society. Those who should be next step for human evolution as Emperor designed, now branded as witches and mutants. Yes there is sanctioned psykers in 40k, but they are still threated like witches and mutants.

And yes daemonic possession for every one! Let your body be possessed today and you will get a cookie as a gift from Chaos Gods.

The weak will always be led by the strong. Where the strong see purpose and act, the weak follow; where the strong cry out against fate, the weak bow their heads and succumb. There are many who are weak; and many are their temptations. Despise the weak for they shall flock to the call of the Daemon and the Renegade. Pity them not and scorn their cries of innocence - it is better that one hundred innocently fall before the wrath of the Emperor than one kneels before the Daemon.

Modifié par Maddok900, 09 janvier 2013 - 12:07 .

[Althix]

yes pretty much so. Inquisition have almost unlimited power in 40k, only few space marines chapters of 1st Founding can tell them to go and f**k them selfs. Live of single human or billions of humans means nothing in 40k. Inquisition can murder billions in order to kill few mutants. So much for Imperium of Man. I am sure the Emperor is very sad about that.

Inquisition in DA setting, i hope, understand that genocide is not an option, and any life mage or not should be preserved if possible.

Modifié par secretsandlies, 09 janvier 2013 - 12:27 .

[Gazardiel]

Nobody expects the Thedas Inquisition!

[Chaos Lord Malek]

hhh89 wrote...

I'm sorry to disappoint you, OP, but there are high chances that the Inquisition will not act as you wish, at least not in every game.
Since it's likely that the Inquisition will be the PC's organization, and the PC could be a mage, and that Bioware will not force an anti-mage attitude on the PC, the Inquisition will probably be "neutral". You might have the choice of using it to hunt mages, though.

You don't know what mage class we will play. We might be Force Mages right off start - which is practically like a sanctioned Psyker from W40k.

Also 'neutral' is such a word... Inquistion will fallow Andraste crap, wheter you side with Divine or Templars. So they definitely are not neutral. Not to mention that specifically 'heretic' applies on Qunari and Tevinter, which are deffinitely enemy factions to Inquisition. 

[Liamv2]

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

I'm sorry to disappoint you, OP, but there are high chances that the Inquisition will not act as you wish, at least not in every game.
Since it's likely that the Inquisition will be the PC's organization, and the PC could be a mage, and that Bioware will not force an anti-mage attitude on the PC, the Inquisition will probably be "neutral". You might have the choice of using it to hunt mages, though.

You don't know what mage class we will play. We might be Force Mages right off start - which is practically like a sanctioned Psyker from W40k.

Also 'neutral' is such a word... Inquistion will fallow Andraste crap, wheter you side with Divine or Templars. So they definitely are not neutral. Not to mention that specifically 'heretic' applies on Qunari and Tevinter, which are deffinitely enemy factions to Inquisition. 

We have never specificaly been told that as far as i am aware

[henrikjuell]

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

Also 'neutral' is such a word... Inquistion will fallow Andraste crap, wheter you side with Divine or Templars. So they definitely are not neutral.

The PC will be completely neutral according to David Gaider

David Gaider wrote...

Okay, so. Without going into specifics on the plot of DA3, because I can't do that, I will say the following:

You aren't going to be forced to serve the Chantry or even think it's a good thing. You aren't forced to express belief in the Maker. I said previously we would try to allow options to actively express doubt, if that's your thing, so long as it works in context. You of course will also have the option to do the opposite.

Ultimately, the ability to determine the personality and/or feelings on your own character is one of the fundamental
strengths of an RPG, and one that DA is sticking with. Yes, it must also work within the context of the setting and the plot-- you can't do anything-- but that's always been the case with any game, and in the case of DA3 it is not required that you be forced into a certain set of beliefs in order to make it work.

Modifié par henrikjuell, 09 janvier 2013 - 01:59 .

[Althix]

Pretty much. Chanty is a Church of the Maker. But this doesn't mean that they know the Maker's will.

Also being a force mages doesn't make them like sanctioned psykers in any way, Harrowing is supposed to do that. Also psyker can use pyromancy and be sanctioned how about that?

Modifié par secretsandlies, 09 janvier 2013 - 02:10 .

[Zerker]

secretsandlies wrote...

yes pretty much so. Inquisition have almost unlimited power in 40k, only few space marines chapters of 1st Founding can tell them to go and f**k them selfs. Live of single human or billions of humans means nothing in 40k. Inquisition can murder billions in order to kill few mutants. So much for Imperium of Man. I am sure the Emperor is very sad about that.

Inquisition in DA setting, i hope, understand that genocide is not an option, and any life mage or not should be preserved if possible.

Though Mankind is at the brink of this great apotheosis, you must be ever vigilant for the stillborn harbingers of this change. Where you seek the pure and strong, there too will you find the impure and weak. Where you find but one worthy of life, you will also find a million twisted, deformed monstrosities for whom death by your hand is a mercy. Therefore, look first for the mutant, for he may never hide his sin from you, and in his midst there will be revealed to you that which you seek. But be ever vigilant, for even should you find one with the gift, only one in a thousand psykers will be strong enough to resist the perils of the Empyrean and be allowed to live.

Modifié par Maddok900, 09 janvier 2013 - 02:03 .

[Althix]

are you gonna copy paste entire wh40k fluff? i know DA setting have many similarities with 40k. Also do not preach to Daemon Prince, you will lose your head and soul in no time.

[Zerker]

secretsandlies wrote...

are you gonna copy paste entire wh40k fluff? i know DA setting have many similarities with 40k. Also do not preach to Daemon Prince, you will lose your head and soul in no time.

I can cleanse your ugly daemon head with my Psilencer you know.

[Althix]

no you can't.

well i guess Ninja Stan will swoop here very soon and close this topic.

[LobselVith8]

henrikjuell wrote...

The PC will be completely neutral according to David Gaider

David Gaider wrote...

Okay, so. Without going into specifics on the plot of DA3, because I can't do that, I will say the following:

You aren't going to be forced to serve the Chantry or even think it's a good thing. You aren't forced to express belief in the Maker. I said previously we would try to allow options to actively express doubt, if that's your thing, so long as it works in context. You of course will also have the option to do the opposite.

Ultimately, the ability to determine the personality and/or feelings on your own character is one of the fundamental
strengths of an RPG, and one that DA is sticking with. Yes, it must also work within the context of the setting and the plot-- you can't do anything-- but that's always been the case with any game, and in the case of DA3 it is not required that you be forced into a certain set of beliefs in order to make it work.

Here's hoping for an atheist mage protagonist in Inquisition who can topple the templars. I certainly hope that the story won't be about restoring the status quo.

[Althix]

LobselVith8 wrote...
I certainly hope that the story won't be about restoring the status quo.

i hope not.

[TheJediSaint]

secretsandlies wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...
I certainly hope that the story won't be about restoring the status quo.

i hope not.

It probably wont be about completely destroying the established order, either.

[Althix]

No i hope to bring mages to submission, allowing them have their freedom if they succeeded at Harrowing.

Modifié par secretsandlies, 09 janvier 2013 - 06:20 .

[AlienWolf728]

 
The only solution.

Edit: I can imagine it now: "Sub-sector Thedas has been cleansed"

Modifié par AlienWolf728, 09 janvier 2013 - 06:31 .

[Althix]

Yeah right. That what happens when Imperium do not have what it takes to win a battle.

[AlienWolf728]

Also funny you should think that OP; when I read "it's time for the inquisition" for the first time I thought "so, purge everything, leave nothing alive?".

Modifié par AlienWolf728, 09 janvier 2013 - 06:29 .

[esper]

TheJediSaint wrote...

secretsandlies wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...
I certainly hope that the story won't be about restoring the status quo.

i hope not.

It probably wont be about completely destroying the established order, either.

The established order is majorly damaged.

[Aolbain]

As much as I adore 40K (eisenhorn ftw!) such a inquisitor would go form necessary evil to "worst person ever" if you placed him/her in Thedas.

[Althix]

well after harlequins if mark of assassin, my first thought was " oh really?" and second one was "what kind of ordos?".