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[Peer of the Empire]

FOR THE GLORY OF MANKIND

Modifié par Peer of the Empire, 09 janvier 2013 - 07:29 .

[Bfler]

secretsandlies wrote...

well after harlequins if mark of assassin, my first thought was " oh really?" and second one was "what kind of ordos?".

Ordos? Harlequins are Eldar not Space Marines.

[Althix]

/facepalm and wh40k is not all about space marines

[Chaos Lord Malek]

AlienWolf728 wrote...

 
The only solution.

Edit: I can imagine it now: "Sub-sector Thedas has been cleansed"

I hope we get to drop some "lyrium bomb" on cities to purge them like this. Would be epic.

"We have arrived, and it is now that we perform our charge. In fealty to the Maker, (our eternal lord), and by the grace of his bride Andraste - i declare purification upon the city of 'insert city name'. I hearby sign a death warrant of the entire city and consign a thousand souls to oblivion. May the Maker's justic accounts in all balance, Andraste protect us."

[Zerker]

secretsandlies wrote...

/facepalm and wh40k is not all about space marines

You really have an English problem.

[TheJediSaint]

So are we discussing Dragon Age 3 or Warhammer? Because I can't really tell.

[Althix]

Maddok900 wrote...
You really have an English problem.

I have. But i am not trying to shoot flying monstrous creature with a gun at least. It's rather... pointless.

As for what we are discussing. There is too many ideas in DA setting that mirrors wh40k. So as you may guess little trolling is in order.

As for DA inquistion as aspect of radical nobrainers like Ordo Malleus... well i guess it can be that way, but it's rather boring.

Modifié par secretsandlies, 09 janvier 2013 - 10:15 .

[Zardoc]

Did somebody say "burn the heretic"?




Also, on an unrelated note:

F*ck your Inquisition.

Sincerely, Logan Grimnar and the Rout.

Modifié par Zardoc, 10 janvier 2013 - 12:49 .

[The Elder King]

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

I'm sorry to disappoint you, OP, but there are high chances that the Inquisition will not act as you wish, at least not in every game.
Since it's likely that the Inquisition will be the PC's organization, and the PC could be a mage, and that Bioware will not force an anti-mage attitude on the PC, the Inquisition will probably be "neutral". You might have the choice of using it to hunt mages, though.

You don't know what mage class we will play. We might be Force Mages right off start - which is practically like a sanctioned Psyker from W40k.

Also 'neutral' is such a word... Inquistion will fallow Andraste crap, wheter you side with Divine or Templars. So they definitely are not neutral. Not to mention that specifically 'heretic' applies on Qunari and Tevinter, which are deffinitely enemy factions to Inquisition. 

First, it's obvious that we'll not going to play a specialized Force Mage. It's obvious that the various magic schools will return. What we don't know is if Force Mage will return. Regardless, the fact that FM might be similare to Psyker in term of ability doesn't mean that they're role in the game will be the same. As far as we know, Force Mage isn't like Templar. No mage spec is part of an organization or a specific group of an organization.
Second, as others said to you, Gaider confirmed that the PC will not be forced on following the chantry, and by the intent of his post neither the templars or the mages. Now, the Inquisition might as well be a mage-hunting, Chantry-worshipping organization, but in this case the PC will not be a part of it.
Third, we have no clue of which are the enemies of the Inquisition. You're assuming the Inquisition will follow a religious mindset (which we have no clue about), while the original Inquisition merely followe a mage-hunting mindset. They acquired a religious mindset only after the Nevarran Accord, in which the Inquisition was split. The Inquisition never hunted heretics in the religious sense of the term. They hunted heretics in the magical sense of the term. So the qunari could very well not be enemies for the Inquisition (the old Inquisition would applaud them, as the qunari would applaud the Inquisition).

[Althix]

Religious motivation is always a bad thing.

p.s. About Qunari. I don't think so, we are still bas for them.

Modifié par secretsandlies, 10 janvier 2013 - 01:18 .

[drake heath]

This game better let me purge some heretics, witches and xenos or I will not be happy.

[Typhrus]

Also fairly sure that psykers can become inquisitors....they just have more of a chance of going 'rogue'

I for one wouldn't mind having an inquistor like 40k, if only so I could finally play an 'evil' character without qualms. For the Emperor! (or in DA: For the Maker and Andraste!)

[Zerker]

Captain Valdus wrote...
Also fairly sure that psykers can become inquisitors....they just have more of a chance of going 'rogue'

Forget Inquisitors, Psykers can be damn Grey Knights.

[LobselVith8]

hhh89 wrote...

You're assuming the Inquisition will follow a religious mindset (which we have no clue about), while the original Inquisition merely followe a mage-hunting mindset. They acquired a religious mindset only after the Nevarran Accord, in which the Inquisition was split. The Inquisition never hunted heretics in the religious sense of the term. They hunted heretics in the magical sense of the term. So the qunari could very well not be enemies for the Inquisition (the old Inquisition would applaud them, as the qunari would applaud the Inquisition). 

The codex seems to suggest that the original Inquisition were religious. "Most people don’t remember the Templar Order as it once was. In the days when the Chantry was still young, templars were known as the 'Inquisition' and combed the land in search of all dangers to humanity - whether they came in the form of blood mages, abominations, cultists or heretics. It was a dark and terrifying time in the history of Thedas, and one that only ended when the Chantry convinced the Inquisition to unite under the banner of their common faith." Emphasis mine.

[Bfler]

drake heath wrote...

This game better let me purge some heretics, witches and xenos or I will not be happy.

[The Elder King]

LobselVith8 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

You're assuming the Inquisition will follow a religious mindset (which we have no clue about), while the original Inquisition merely followe a mage-hunting mindset. They acquired a religious mindset only after the Nevarran Accord, in which the Inquisition was split. The Inquisition never hunted heretics in the religious sense of the term. They hunted heretics in the magical sense of the term. So the qunari could very well not be enemies for the Inquisition (the old Inquisition would applaud them, as the qunari would applaud the Inquisition). 

The codex seems to suggest that the original Inquisition were religious. "Most people don’t remember the Templar Order as it once was. In the days when the Chantry was still young, templars were known as the 'Inquisition' and combed the land in search of all dangers to humanity - whether they came in the form of blood mages, abominations, cultists or heretics. It was a dark and terrifying time in the history of Thedas, and one that only ended when the Chantry convinced the Inquisition to unite under the banner of their common faith." Emphasis mine.

I forgot that they mentioned the common faith. I though that it was because they both share the same view on magic. Though I wouldn't be certain that they were religious.
Regardless, their target where still magic, in forms of blood mages, abominations, cultist and heretics. While the qunari might be considered heretics (though I recall that the games used the term "heathens"), I doubt that they would've been their targets.

[Plaintiff]

What the original Inquisition did is irrelevent. Sharing a name does not make two organisations in any way similar.

[LobselVith8]

hhh89 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

The codex seems to suggest that the original Inquisition were religious. "Most people don’t remember the Templar Order as it once was. In the days when the Chantry was still young, templars were known as the 'Inquisition' and combed the land in search of all dangers to humanity - whether they came in the form of blood mages, abominations, cultists or heretics. It was a dark and terrifying time in the history of Thedas, and one that only ended when the Chantry convinced the Inquisition to unite under the banner of their common faith." Emphasis mine. 

I forgot that they mentioned the common faith. I though that it was because they both share the same view on magic. Though I wouldn't be certain that they were religious.
Regardless, their target where still magic, in forms of blood mages, abominations, cultist and heretics. While the qunari might be considered heretics (though I recall that the games used the term "heathens"), I doubt that they would've been their targets. 

Yeah, the priestess seems to view The Warden as a heathen in Ostagar if he doesn't believe in the Maker. Also, Cullen calls Oghren a "cave dwelling heathen" at one point, if The Warden brings Oghren to the Circle of Ferelden while Cullen is trapped.

Given their targets, I'd imagine the original Inquisition would hunt down heathens/heretics.

[KainD]

I've always been a fan of Eldar and Slaanesh personally.
Did some brainstorm and came up with an Eldar society that actually functions while worshiping Slaanesh, unlimited psyonic potential.

[Althix]

Eldar and Slaanesh.... you know something is wrong here. one excludes the other i think.

[KainD]

secretsandlies wrote...

Eldar and Slaanesh.... you know something is wrong here. one excludes the other i think.

Nah, I thought about it in depth with other Warhammer fans, and we came to a conclusion that a Eldar could indeed worship Slaanesh and "benefit" from it, just that they are all going to be consumed by Slaanesh eventually, like any chaos worshippers really. 

[Althix]

Slaanesh have no need in new worshippers. She thirst for Eldar souls, and you know that souls of psykers shine in the Warp like stars in the night.

If they will start worship She-who-thirst, Eldar will perish. Which is bad i want some fun with them first.

[Zardoc]

KainD wrote...

I've always been a fan of Eldar and Slaanesh personally.
Did some brainstorm and came up with an Eldar society that actually functions while worshiping Slaanesh, unlimited psyonic potential.

Not even Dark Eldar are that stupid.

[Althix]

yeah i thought i will let Dark Eldars go. They are not fun, no psykers. Wonder why? (because of our bsexual God of fun)

Modifié par secretsandlies, 10 janvier 2013 - 05:17 .

[KainD]

secretsandlies wrote...

Slaanesh have no need in new worshippers. She thirst for Eldar souls, and you know that souls of psykers shine in the Warp like stars in the night.

If they will start worship She-who-thirst, Eldar will perish. Which is bad i want some fun with them first.

Okay let me go in depth here a little. I feel like this is a completely wrong forum and thread, but whatever. 


All chaos Gods thurst for souls, but they do not consume all of their followers at once, all of the followers are going to get consumed eventually anyway, and they can often gain the chaos God much more while they live, since chaos Gods also feed of powerful emotions and acts. 

Souls that are fed to Slaanesh for example are even often tortured for a while to feed Slaanesh those emotions as well before actually being consumed, so Slaanesh enjoys prolonged feeding too. 

The thing with the current Eldar is that they do not belong to Slaanesh, and so she always consumes their souls while she has the chance, since they use soulstones to safe themselves from her, but would the Eldar come to her willingly it would be a different picture. But the current Eldar would never come to worship her, it would not work.

The idea of a craftworld we came up with was:
A craftworld of young Eldar, that do not remember much of the past, do not have any big history recordings and live "deceived" in a way. This is a craftworld of basically "teen" eldar, that worship Slaanesh as their God of pleasure and perfection, success and power. They embrace all emotions, do not restrain themselves in their psyonic potential, raid other factions to feed their souls to Slaanesh or to make them slaves. They enjoy all the pleasures in life, engage in ridicilous acts, do drugs, reproduce and burn bright with emotions for Slaanesh to feed from, and when they get to about 500 years old they accend, aka ritually kill themselves with powerful euphoria drugs and feed their own souls to Slaanesh.
These Eldar do not fear death and await the day they are going to go to Slaanesh with anticipation, because they believe that what awaits theiy souls is endless bliss, and the only reason for them to live now is to help spread Slaanesh influance. 

Basically the society works, and they treat each other good like brothers and sisters because they die early enough to not get degraded enough. But the society as a whole is very twisted, and no other faction would want to meet them. 

There you go.