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[cory257383]

Sigh what has this thread become, sniff

[Blitzkrieg_33]

HolyAvenger wrote...

A thread about stupidity on BSN descended into stupidity on BSN...inception!

BSNception!

[Dracian]

Annomander wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Annomander wrote...

I thought an exploit was defined as "Whatever game mechanics GallowsPole doesn't like because he can't master them, and has a problem with other people who can".

Damn I need to report myself for "Mastering the Claymore-Cancelling" and "Running With Pizza" exploits

Yeah, I guess I should ban myself from the unreal tournament servers that I play on for using the strafe walking "exploit", the hammer jumping "exploit" and the bouncing my flak cannon's shots off of a wall "exploit".

All 3 of those were included by the epic games developers for players who were competent enough to discover and perfect them, but as all 3 take some skill and practice, I guess those are exploits too.

Not to mention Q3's circle jumps, strafe jumps, plasma climbs and also other game's bunny hops (CS pre 1.3).

[Crimson Vanguard]

GallowsPole wrote...

If you insist that reload cancelling is something difficult to master in this game, than I feel sorry for you.

Fine, I give up. Its not an exploit. Its an easily mastered mechanic to give everyone the supreme advantage of claiming the high scores on BSN, or their e-peen videos because they can make a Claymore into a semi auto shotgun that in NO way, is an advantage.

Then post a video of you shooting Claymore like a Scimitar or even Wraith. You sound like some pugger got outscored by a good Claymore user then came here to **** and whine.

[Twinkles DeVere]

HolyAvenger wrote...

A thread about stupidity on BSN descended into stupidity on BSN...inception!

The cycle continues...

[GallowsPole]

I dont believe I called for a ban OR said noone should use them. I find them cheap, and thats all Ive said about them all along. I bow before all your greatnesses for using the game mechanics to your advantage.

BOW BOW BOW

[DarkOrgasm]

GallowsPole wrote...

If you insist that reload cancelling is something difficult to master in this game, than I feel sorry for you.

Fine, I give up. Its not an exploit. Its an easily mastered mechanic to give everyone the supreme advantage of claiming the high scores on BSN, or their e-peen videos because they can make a Claymore into a semi auto shotgun that in NO way, is an advantage.

If you ever dropped into a PC lobby, us PC players would be compelled to exploit you, unintended of course

[GallowsPole]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

If you insist that reload cancelling is something difficult to master in this game, than I feel sorry for you.

Fine, I give up. Its not an exploit. Its an easily mastered mechanic to give everyone the supreme advantage of claiming the high scores on BSN, or their e-peen videos because they can make a Claymore into a semi auto shotgun that in NO way, is an advantage.

Then post a video of you shooting Claymore like a Scimitar or even Wraith. You sound like some pugger got outscored by a good Claymore user then came here to **** and whine.

I have no way to record nor would I. Ive got nothing to prove, and no, I didnt get outscored pugging. I rarely even see someone using a Claymore. I will gladly play with anyone on XBOX though.

[ArcaptSSX]

I don't understand at what point you make it an exploit. Yes the mechanic was originally unintended on the original Street Fighter II. Generally even combos weren't intended. Then they completely embraced it from Super Street Fighter II onwards. They could also have completely suppressed it in SF II ' or SF II Turbo. Yet they didn't.
So from unintentional it became an intentional feature.

BioWare had the same opportunity in between episodes, or with patches, and didn't do a thing either. But you say it's still unintentional? I can't understand such logic.

Modifié par JohnBobbyTheThird, 09 janvier 2013 - 02:27 .

[GallowsPole]

JohnBobbyTheThird wrote...

I don't understand at what point you make it an exploit. Yes the mechanic was originally unintended on the original Street Fighter II. Generally even combos weren't intended. Then they completely embraced it from Super Street Fighter II onwards. They could also have completely suppressed it in SF II ' or SF II Turbo. Yet they didn't.
So from unintentional it became an intentional feature.

BioWare had the same opportunity in between episodes, or with patches, and didn't do a thing either. But you say it's still unintentional? I can't understand such logic.

People are confusing the term exploit with calling the mechanic an exploit. I use the definition of exploit, which reload cancelling is a perfect example of, Im not calling the game mechanic an 'exploit', which Blitzkrieg gave the definiton of. There IS a difference. One is a verb, one is a noun.

Modifié par GallowsPole, 09 janvier 2013 - 02:29 .

[mrs_anomaly]

Annomander wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

Reload cancelling is not an exploit, and Phantoms are hard to kill off host. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Everything GallowsPole posts is a joke.

Or at least, we all laugh at it.

Too bad he's actually being serious.

Modifié par mrs_anomaly, 09 janvier 2013 - 02:32 .

[Blitzkrieg_33]

GallowsPole wrote...

JohnBobbyTheThird wrote...

I don't understand at what point you make it an exploit. Yes the mechanic was originally unintended on the original Street Fighter II. Generally even combos weren't intended. Then they completely embraced it from Super Street Fighter II onwards. They could also have completely suppressed it in SF II ' or SF II Turbo. Yet they didn't.
So from unintentional it became an intentional feature.

BioWare had the same opportunity in between episodes, or with patches, and didn't do a thing either. But you say it's still unintentional? I can't understand such logic.

People are confusing the term exploit with calling the mechanic an exploit. I use the definition of exploit, which reload cancelling is a perfect example of, Im not calling the game mechanic an 'exploit', which Blitzkrieg gave the definiton of. There IS a difference. One is a verb, one is a noun.

You know, your definition is just one of many:

ex·ploit  /ikˈsploit/

Verb

Make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource): "500 companies sprang up to exploit this new technology".

According to that definition, you would be correct

Modifié par Blitzkrieg_33, 09 janvier 2013 - 02:32 .

[DrunkenGamerTrae]

GallowsPole wrote...

If you insist that reload cancelling is something difficult to master in this game, than I feel sorry for you.

Fine, I give up. Its not an exploit. Its an easily mastered mechanic to give everyone the supreme advantage of claiming the high scores on BSN, or their e-peen videos because they can make a Claymore into a semi auto shotgun that in NO way, is an advantage.

It's unfair to be able to shoot enemies through cover when they can't shoot you, so obviously using any weapons mods or ammo to allow you to do so is an exploit by your logic.

Modifié par DrunkenGamerTrae, 09 janvier 2013 - 02:33 .

[Dracian]

GallowsPole wrote...

People are confusing the term exploit with calling the mechanic an exploit. I use the definition of exploit, which reload cancelling is a perfect example of, Im not calling the game mechanic an 'exploit', which Blitzkrieg gave the definiton of. There IS a difference. One is a verb, one is a noun.

Except that reload cancelling is not an exploit, just a game mechanic. Credit glitches, Missile glitches, Warp/incendiary glitch are exploits.

[GallowsPole]

If I wasnt correct, I wouldnt keep going. I would have apologized and moved on. I cant help it if peeps focused on me calling the mechanic itself an exploit rather than it being expoitive.

Hehe

[Crimson Vanguard]

The Flamer + Reegar glitch is an exploit and Biower patched it. End.

[cory257383]

Back on topic lol.

[BridgeBurner]

mrs_anomaly wrote...

(snip)

Haha, apologies ma'am, will stop it right away ma'am.

[GallowsPole]

OK people, dont lump in every conceivable crap into being an exploit. Certain mechanics, as you allude to, I find cheap and exploitive. There are others that simply cant be portrayed in the game, such as choosing the right hand to carry the weapon.

[Blitzkrieg_33]

GallowsPole wrote...

People are confusing the term exploit with calling the mechanic an exploit. I use the definition of exploit, which reload cancelling is a perfect example of, Im not calling the game mechanic an 'exploit', which Blitzkrieg gave the definiton of. There IS a difference. One is a verb, one is a noun.

While previously!

GallowsPole wrote...

Fact:reload cancelling, even though intentionally added, is still a broken mechanic that players take advantage of, ergo, the very definition of an exploit

 

ITT: Defeated poster tries to change original argument, while everyone else begins to pity the poor creature.

[GallowsPole]

If you look at all my previous posts on this topic, you will see I simply find it cheap. Im not changing my argument at all. To me, it is exploitive. The developers intentionally put a bug in the game and yes, calls it legit. Its still a bug is it not? Whether intentional or unintentional.

[Blitzkrieg_33]

GallowsPole wrote...

If you look at all my previous posts on this topic, you will see I simply find it cheap. Im not changing my argument at all. To me, it is exploitive. The developers intentionally put a bug in the game and yes, calls it legit. Its still a bug is it not? Whether intentional or unintentional.

Definition of bug noun An error in a computer program or system: a custom program we used developed a bug[/i]

Please, stop.

[Dracian]

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