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[skate4tacos96]

I don't understand why Bioware wouldn't want to add any ending related DLC. I personally don't think it would take away any more from the company's credibility. I mean, honestly, do they even have any credibility left? What've they got to lose?

[AchesOfDoom]

skate4tacos96 wrote...

I don't understand why Bioware wouldn't want to add any ending related DLC. I personally don't think it would take away any more from the company's credibility. I mean, honestly, do they even have any credibility left? What've they got to lose?

THIS!
One can only wonder what is going around....Hell if we receive a ending related DLC it would be EPIC and good publicity for Bioware.
But you know that we are not Bioware's marketing team so 'we are not a reliable source'.

[Kabraxal]

AchesOfDoom wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

I don't understand why Bioware wouldn't want to add any ending related DLC. I personally don't think it would take away any more from the company's credibility. I mean, honestly, do they even have any credibility left? What've they got to lose?

THIS!
One can only wonder what is going around....Hell if we receive a ending related DLC it would be EPIC and good publicity for Bioware.
But you know that we are not Bioware's marketing team so 'we are not a reliable source'.

Bioware's marketing team isn't a reliable source either... they've said so much that just wasn't true it's laughable and sad.

[skate4tacos96]

AchesOfDoom wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

I don't understand why Bioware wouldn't want to add any ending related DLC. I personally don't think it would take away any more from the company's credibility. I mean, honestly, do they even have any credibility left? What've they got to lose?

THIS!
One can only wonder what is going around....Hell if we receive a ending related DLC it would be EPIC and good publicity for Bioware.
But you know that we are not Bioware's marketing team so 'we are not a reliable source'.

If they wanted to ensure future purchases of "ME4," they would add the new ending that fans have been practically pleading on their knees for. I mean, artistic integrity my ass. It's the fans opinions that matters, not their oversized egos.

[Epique Phael767]

skate4tacos96 wrote...

. I mean, artistic integrity my ass. It's the fans opinions that matters, not their oversized egos.

This x1000

[Steppenwolf]

They already changed the ending with the EC so adding stuff with new DLC doesn't seem like a big deal. But they do act like the EC didn't change anything, that it only explained what our feeble minds couldn't make sense of before. I would be willing to bet that they've receded into the mindset that we just don't appreciate the amazing ending they gave us and that changing it again or adding anything to it would be rewarding petulance.

[Ice Cold J]

Well, my guess is it's either:
1) Actually changing the ending.
2) Giving us a "What If?" scenario/dream sequence.
3) Take us back big somewhere we've been before: my only guesses are Ilos, Ferros, The Collector Base, Illium, Therum.

[skate4tacos96]

Epique Phael767 wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

. I mean, artistic integrity my ass. It's the fans opinions that matters, not their oversized egos.

This x1000

It's almost sad, really, that they don't see the oppurtunity to regain the favor of many fans by adding an ending related DLC. Not only would they be reestablihing the large fanbase they once had, but it's an oppurtunity that they could make a substantial profit off of. There's several threads on here that prove that!

Modifié par skate4tacos96, 13 janvier 2013 - 12:12 .

[clarkusdarkus]

Post ending dlc is the only thing that would gain my interest back in the abomination that is ME3, people who love the ending will buy it anyway so why not get as many sales as possible rather than catering to those that see no wrong in the game and love to pew pew cerby's...,

[IC-07]

Anybody wants a "return to Virmire'? No?

[IMNOTCRAZYiminsane]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Don't hold your breath.

Get it? Destroy ending? Breath scene?

...tough crowd.

:blush:^_^:D:D:D:O:O:O:O:O:O<_< lulz

[RukiaKuchki]

skate4tacos96 wrote...
 It's the fans opinions that matters, not their oversized egos.

Which fans exactly? You? You and your friends? The people who post exclusively on the BSN? The people who go on the internet? The people who played ME for a couple of hours but got bored and went back to Skyrim/COD/Journey etc? The people who pre-ordered the game? Which fans are the ones Bioware should respond to, exclusively? Which do you consider to be the most important? You, and many many others here, have got to stop bunching everyone together. There is no unified opinion on the what the ending should be. Fair enough there is an overwhelming sense of people not liking the ending, but you ask 5 people what it is exactly that they want in the ending, and you'll get 6 different opinions. Bioware have been candid in that they know that a lot of people do not like what they have done, but they have created the game they wanted to create and they wanted people to experience. There is no way that they can change completely what they have done in a way that will make everyone happy. The counter to this would be 'well, if they want people to buy their games, they should do exactly as I (I meaning 'the fans') demand'. This is just not how it works in a creative industry. For a start, most of 'the fans' don't have a creative bone in their bodies and would produce a cliched list of demands that would not make an interesting experience (read many fanfics, MEHEM etc). But also, the audience is fluid, it will change over time as people get older and their tastes/demands on time change. 'We' as in, the folks who post here, like to think that we are the most important group that Bioware has to cater to, when in reality we aren't.  

[Dragoonlordz]

skate4tacos96 wrote...

If they wanted to ensure future purchases of "ME4," they would add the new ending that fans have been practically pleading on their knees for. I mean, artistic integrity my ass. It's the fans opinions that matters, not their oversized egos.

I am a fan and in my opinion they should not add any new endings. According to you my opinion should take precedence because I call myself a fan therefore no new endings. /sarcasm

Bioware should continue to create the stories they wish to create and the result will be creation of fans who either want x or y but those who want x like like yourself are no more important than those who want y. You being a fan is your choice but you are only a fan because they created the games they wanted and that should not change now or ever. They should not create your stories, they create their own stories and you chose to remain a fan or not but where you decide not to -someone else might decide to become one.

As for the comment about ensure sales of ME4, most of the people who proclaim they won't be buying it will actually buy it because the next game will end up being bought based on it's content and hype or marketing despite what others claim on here...that is the reality of the situation. Those who do not care to buy it based on it's own quality are not the ones who Bioware should care about as they are stuck in the past and attempting to judge their products on something they are not. You can compare one product to another, you can judge a product on it's own quality but you can only do so if bought or played it.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 13 janvier 2013 - 04:04 .

[hiraeth]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Post ending dlc is the only thing that would gain my interest back in the abomination that is ME3, people who love the ending will buy it anyway so why not get as many sales as possible rather than catering to those that see no wrong in the game and love to pew pew cerby's...,

+1

Those who liked the ending, or those who are neutral or don't care about it, are more likely to continue to be interested in the universe and buy any decent SP DLC, assuming they still care about ME. Those who [strongly] dislike it--especially those who have sworn off any non-ending-related DLC--are probably less likely to buy DLC that doesn't touch on ending or post-ending ME, so why not maximize sales and get everyone's attention? Sure, it's possible that some people who liked the ending would be upset by ending-related DLC, but that's only a possibility, whereas people who are asking for it because of disappointment with the game is a reality.

I don't mean to generalize--fan liking/disliking and satisfaction/dissatisfaction is obviously a continuum and not a black and white dichotomy, so the situation is always more complex and nuanced than a lot of people like to admit. And I might obviously be biased because I thought the ending was atrocious. But just looking at reactions to Leviathan and Omega, I can't help but think that an ending-related DLC would be pretty lucrative for BW.

[Yate]

I hope it's not ending related just so all the entitled crybabies will finally leave.

[Yate]

Seriously though...

My guess is that they'll cave and give you a chance for successful Refusal at some point. Refusal's a joke right now, so I'd be pretty OK with it.

I can't see the DLC being about the ending though. They're adding on a lot of new content, and there's simply no reason to get the composers involved when they already have a ton of great tracks for Earth and afterward. There's just NO ROOM in the ending for anything this size unless they totally wipe out the Catalyst, and they're definitely not doing that.

It's got to be unrelated. Something that will excite fans though. Something that happened in ME1 or ME2 that was NOT picked up again in ME3. My guess is dark energy.

[RukiaKuchki]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I am a fan and in my opinion they should not add any new endings. According to you my opinion should take precedence because I call myself a fan therefore no new endings. /sarcasm

Bioware should continue to create the stories they wish to create and the result will be creation of fans who either want x or y but those who want x like like yourself are no more important than those who want y. You being a fan is your choice but you are only a fan because they created the games they wanted and that should not change now or ever. They should not create your stories, they create their own stories and you chose to remain a fan or not but where you decide not to -someone else might decide to become one.

As for the comment about ensure sales of ME4, most of the people who proclaim they won't be buying it will actually buy it because the next game will end up being bought based on it's content and hype or marketing despite what others claim on here...that is the reality of the situation. Those who do not care to buy it based on it's own quality are not the ones who Bioware should care about as they are stuck in the past and attempting to judge their products on something they are not. You can compare one product to another, you can judge a product on it's own quality but you can only do so if bought or played it.

Couldn't agree with you more.

[chemiclord]

skate4tacos96 wrote...
It's the fans opinions that matters, not their oversized egos.

Even presuming this is inexorably true (it's not, by the way), there's still that little itty bitty problem that outside of some very general expectations, there is next to NO consensus on how to "fix" the endings.

The story the creator wants to tell IS important, even if it pisses off the fans.  If they don't want to change it, they shouldn't.

[Dean_the_Young]

Enhanced wrote...

Medievalist wrote...

Concerning the abovementioned article, I don't really understand the last sentence:

Presumably, BioWare seems to have reserved its best for the grand finale
of the trilogy, even as any development on Mass Effect 4 seems to have
receded quite mysteriously.

Why are they saying it has receded? It hasn't even started yet and is presumably in "pre-production".

Because they are focusing on this DLC:


"It's all hands on deck for this one. Pretty much every ME3 DLC writer here in Edmonton is involved. (which would include both Patrick Weekes AND John Dombrow)"

-Jos Hendriks

http://social.biowar...78/112#15028852

And?

That's, uh, natural. Pre-production, to hear the devs talk about it, involves very little actual game-making... which is what most of what DLC is. Sure, the writers of Edmonton being involved will hamper the other pre-development, but that's a temporary pause, not receding.

[magikbbg]

I do hope it's ending related! As well. I can respect artistic integrity but I also respect my own decision to buy ea bioware products. After seeing DA2 and me3 I haven't bought anything EA (also seeing what they're doing with Simcity) lost respect for blizzard too after D3 release. So I've been avoiding all EA. bioware, blizzard products which I have spent a lot of money on over the past few years, so hopefully they do cater to fans like myself that pays for things I like. So far I haven't had a reason to buy any DLC or be excited about any future product. If I'm not the kind of fan/customer they want that spends more than retail and gets the extra goodies to support a dev/publisher I like then that's their choice.

They can cater to those who mindlessly pay 60 bucks for a good reviewed game by ign, but for me, fool me once (da2) shame on you, fool me twice (me3) shame on me. Lol I won't get fooled again. That's just the type of customer I am, of course I know there's many more willing to cough up money without thinking twice so I guess I'm just not the type of customer they want.

Regardless, I would like to see an ending related DLC it'll be redemption for an entire publisher to me.

[cavs25]

Its about a group of developers over hyping mediocre dlc

[Clayless]

cavs25 wrote...

Its about a group of developers over hyping mediocre dlc

My god it's happening (again). People are ignoring reality and blaming Bioware for the things they just made up.

It has gotten to the stage where BSN has started accepting dreams as evidence.

[Emphyr]

Believe me it will be EPIC!

Its after ending. Diana Allers survived and finds Shepard breathing in the dust. She killes him and feels entitled to have Spectre status. The Council agrees and gives her that. Allers then dismantles the Normandy into pieces and with that builds a new starship wich she calles the IGN COLIN EXPLORER.

We see all of this this in 1 cutscene wich is about 1 hour long and after that you can start playing the DLC as Commander Allers.


The voice acting will be the best we have ever heard in any game!

Sadly it was not revealed to me what exactly Commander Allers prority missions will be. (:

This DLC will be in 5 separate dlc's all 2 gig and can be freely downloaded here on Bioware.
It will also be available at EA and Origin but then it will be about 29.95$ per 100 MB.

Take Care.

[Isz Niv]

You team up with Perry the Platypus.