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https://twitter.com/...075436635201536 well it seems something is new about some content which mike has tweeted..hmmm...

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Bulls***. The gameplay in TW2 was very well done, though it could indeed be improved.


No, it wasn't. Targeting was a mess, only a few spells were really useful, inventory management was clunky, and potion making took too long to accomplish what should have been a simple task. It wasn't unplayable, obviously, since I finished the game, but the gameplay pales in comparison to the story, voice-acting, and music.

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CronoDragoon wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Bulls***. The gameplay in TW2 was very well done, though it could indeed be improved.


No, it wasn't. Targeting was a mess


I agree, but only with keyboard and mouse. Try playing the game with a gamepad.

only a few spells were really useful


Try playing the game on 'Dark Mode' or 'Insane Mode' and you'll quickly discover that not only are ALL the spells very usefull, but also are ESSENTIAL to your survival.


inventory management was clunky,


I agree, but interface design =/= gameplay. We were talking about gameplay here, not interface design.


and potion making took too long to accomplish what should have been a simple task.


How so? Making potions was easy.


It wasn't unplayable, obviously, since I finished the game, but the gameplay pales in comparison to the story, voice-acting, and music.


True. Of all things in TW2, the gameplay could indeed use the most improvements. The rest however, like the graphics, the story, the acting and the music, is already close to perfection.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 18 janvier 2013 - 06:20 .


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But it's not even the same Bioware studio making ME4. It's the studio that handled ME3 multiplayer.


Which might mean that their will be multiple races to chose from (for the protagonist) in ME4.

Modifié par Grumpy Old Wizard, 18 janvier 2013 - 06:25 .


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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I agree, but only with keyboard and mouse. Try playing the game with a gamepad.


I'll do that. (I hate KB&M anyway, but didn't have a PC controller at the time)

Try playing the game on 'Dark Mode' or 'Insane Mode' and you'll quickly discover that not only are ALL the spells very usefull, but also are ESSENTIAL to your survival.


I have no doubt. But since I liked the concept of each of the spells, I would have liked some more gameplay situations where each was in turn a necessity.



I agree, but interface design =/= gameplay. We were talking about gameplay here, not interface design.


I see them as a part of the same thing, not limiting gameplay merely to the battle system. When the time comes to actually play the game, how is the Witcher 2? That's what I'm adressing here, and inventory is part of that. But we agree here so it's just semantics on this point now.

How so? Making potions was easy.


From what I saw in my brief playthrough post-EE, they actually fixed my big complaint here by making the appearance of the potions screen instantaneous.

True. Of all things in TW2, the gameplay could indeed use the most improvements. The rest however, like the graphics, the story, the acting and the music, is already close to perfection.


It's damn good. I'm not quite as high on it as you are, but it's damned good. The story, however, has its flaws, which can include the characters. At times, TW2 mistakens character depth for "this guy has his reasons." Morally grey characters make it a better story than most of the trash that passes in vidya games, but there is plenty of room for improvement, especially when considering aspects such as character arcs or the prospect of dynamic changes to characters in general. Characters are the same at the end of the Witcher 2 as they are at the beginning of the Witcher 1. In this aspect Mass Effect is clearly the superior series, assuming you do in fact value such things, which not every story must.

As for the overarching plot, it seems to me that has yet to be truly expanded on, but I doubt it will culminate in a train wreck like the original ME3 endings.

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Robosexual wrote...

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^ this
I really don't understand why people who hate mass effect 3's ending are still here do you have nothing better to do in your life??



It's what happens when you love the series but hate ME3. 


Why don't you go to the ME2 and 1 section then?


I am concerned from the fact that you don't seam to understand.....

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I don't get all this fuss about comparing the two games. Both The Witcher games and ME games are awesome for what they are. They are different, but in my opinion are on the same level with different strengths and weaknesses. I love both series equally, but there's really no sense in comparing the two or saying that one is better than the other. They are different, and both awesome. My two favorite game series (along with the Deus Ex and The Thief series).

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archangel1996 wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Revthejedi wrote...

john_sheparrd wrote...

^ this
I really don't understand why people who hate mass effect 3's ending are still here do you have nothing better to do in your life??



It's what happens when you love the series but hate ME3. 


Why don't you go to the ME2 and 1 section then?


I am concerned from the fact that you don't seam to understand.....



I think that both ME3 haters and ME3 lovers have the right to be here, if they keep it civil and do not aim to mock the others or harass or hurt other people for what they like or dislike. The only people I can't understand are who hate the ME series from ME2 on (while ME1 is not that different IMO), so I suppose they have long lost their interest in the series. Though I get those who are here to debate because they enjoy conversing... but those who are here to annoy people and enjoy negativity... well, to them, I can only say, that I hope they find something better in life to do than this kind of sensless bs. 

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 18 janvier 2013 - 12:57 .


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I just hope people who expect ending dlc to truly wait until leaks/walkthroughs are released and not buy blindly, because you prove nothing then by moaning afterwards.... They state it's not ending dlc....many a time.

You was always furthering the legend that is shepard pre-ending not post........1200mp,2hrs40mins,pew pew....the end.....expecting any different will result in disapointment.

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clarkusdarkus wrote...

I just hope people who expect ending dlc to truly wait until leaks/walkthroughs are released and not buy blindly, because you prove nothing then by moaning afterwards.... They state it's not ending dlc....many a time.

You was always furthering the legend that is shepard pre-ending not post........1200mp,2hrs40mins,pew pew....the end.....expecting any different will result in disapointment.


I doubt a lot the people that complain about ME3 DLC here even bought it in the first place

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Robosexual wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

I just hope people who expect ending dlc to truly wait until leaks/walkthroughs are released and not buy blindly, because you prove nothing then by moaning afterwards.... They state it's not ending dlc....many a time.

You was always furthering the legend that is shepard pre-ending not post........1200mp,2hrs40mins,pew pew....the end.....expecting any different will result in disapointment.


I doubt a lot the people that complain about ME3 DLC here even bought it in the first place


Under every avatar here there is a bid bad 3, that means everyone here bought the game
But you are probably right, the only ones who bought the game surely liked it, we, da haters(gonna hate), are hackers :o what is Mass Effect BTW?

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Dark_Enclave33 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...075436635201536 well it seems something is new about some content which mike has tweeted..hmmm...


I'll be damned if I get my hopes up over another one of Mike's tweets. I'm still waiting to have this one explained:

https://twitter.com/...942797880541185

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MassEffectFShep wrote...

Dark_Enclave33 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...075436635201536 well it seems something is new about some content which mike has tweeted..hmmm...


I'll be damned if I get my hopes up over another one of Mike's tweets. I'm still waiting to have this one explained:

https://twitter.com/...942797880541185


You're not the only one hoping to get that Tweet anwsered

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archangel1996 wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

I doubt a lot the people that complain about ME3 DLC here even bought it in the first place


Under every avatar here there is a bid bad 3, that means everyone here bought the game
But you are probably right, the only ones who bought the game surely liked it, we, da haters(gonna hate), are hackers :o what is Mass Effect BTW?


For future reference:

Make sure you understand what you're reading before you attempt to mock it.

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my hope has gone with the large amount of scrapped plot oportunies and lazyness that makes omega dlc a simple action packed cash cow.I only expect with this dlc the last nail in the coffin of bioware.Too many expectations that seems too difficult to implement or not money profitable for the actual state of bioware/ea or game industry in general.I have to admit there´s no indoctrination,there´s no more good me2 chars additions there´s no giana parasini shiala,there´s no return to ilos,feros or virmire.. there´s no space battles,there´s no a real good final mission (like suicide mission).there´s no "your choices matter" there´s no war assets cinematic additions or relevance in outcomes and go on.Only cash cows with a little sugar on top and more lies and hype.And next ME4 linear action with autodialogue and cinematics and microtransation multiplayer.Game is over!

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Freestate2nd wrote...

my hope has gone with the large amount of scrapped plot oportunies and lazyness that makes omega dlc a simple action packed cash cow.I only expect with this dlc the last nail in the coffin of bioware.Too many expectations that seems too difficult to implement or not money profitable for the actual state of bioware/ea or game industry in general.I have to admit there´s no indoctrination,there´s no more good me2 chars additions there´s no giana parasini shiala,there´s no return to ilos,feros or virmire.. there´s no space battles,there´s no a real good final mission (like suicide mission).there´s no "your choices matter" there´s no war assets cinematic additions or relevance in outcomes and go on.Only cash cows with a little sugar on top and more lies and hype.And next ME4 linear action with autodialogue and cinematics and microtransation multiplayer.Game is over!


this is really sad. and yet...i can't really contradict it =/

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Freestate2nd wrote...

my hope has gone with the large amount of scrapped plot oportunies and lazyness that makes omega dlc a simple action packed cash cow.I only expect with this dlc the last nail in the coffin of bioware.Too many expectations that seems too difficult to implement or not money profitable for the actual state of bioware/ea or game industry in general.I have to admit there´s no indoctrination,there´s no more good me2 chars additions there´s no giana parasini shiala,there´s no return to ilos,feros or virmire.. there´s no space battles,there´s no a real good final mission (like suicide mission).there´s no "your choices matter" there´s no war assets cinematic additions or relevance in outcomes and go on.Only cash cows with a little sugar on top and more lies and hype.And next ME4 linear action with autodialogue and cinematics and microtransation multiplayer.Game is over!


Well, let's wait and see, the only way we can know for sure, is if Bioware announces something, but i dont think the last part with ME 4 is going to happen.

Modifié par IIEquillibriumII, 18 janvier 2013 - 05:52 .


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Robosexual wrote...
You must be new to the Internet then, as all he was trying to do was deliberately rile you up in an argument that had no conclusion to derail the thread. There was nothing to be gained from it, just frustration and thread derailing, and he knew full well what he was doing. Trolling in other words.

Oh, so now you arrogate to yourself knowing what Heretic_Hanar's intentions were? Wow. Just... wow.

Modifié par dea_ex_machina, 18 janvier 2013 - 06:12 .


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Freestate2nd wrote...

my hope has gone with the large amount of scrapped plot oportunies and lazyness that makes omega dlc a simple action packed cash cow.I only expect with this dlc the last nail in the coffin of bioware.Too many expectations that seems too difficult to implement or not money profitable for the actual state of bioware/ea or game industry in general.I have to admit there´s no indoctrination,there´s no more good me2 chars additions there´s no giana parasini shiala,there´s no return to ilos,feros or virmire.. there´s no space battles,there´s no a real good final mission (like suicide mission).there´s no "your choices matter" there´s no war assets cinematic additions or relevance in outcomes and go on.Only cash cows with a little sugar on top and more lies and hype.And next ME4 linear action with autodialogue and cinematics and microtransation multiplayer.Game is over!

Agreed, everything wrong with bioware summed up nicely.

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dea_ex_machina wrote...

Robosexual wrote...
You must be new to the Internet then, as all he was trying to do was deliberately rile you up in an argument that had no conclusion to derail the thread. There was nothing to be gained from it, just frustration and thread derailing, and he knew full well what he was doing. Trolling in other words.

Oh, so now you arrogate to yourself knowing what Heretic_Hanar's intentions were? Wow. Just... wow.



Yes, I was calling trolling out when I saw it.

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Robosexual wrote...
Yes, I was calling trolling out when I saw it.

Again... derailing a thread with a discussion cannot ad-hoc be considered trolling because trolling is not only intended to derail a thread, but mostly to provoke. And you simply can't know whether his intention was to derail the thread, to provoke or anything else. Aside from that, trolls usually don't even try to debate and don't react to the points other people are making. Heretic_Hanar clearly did.

Modifié par dea_ex_machina, 18 janvier 2013 - 08:09 .


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I wouldn't mind if it isn't ending dlc. I would like to know if this is going to be the 'One more story'

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The edmonton team had their final meeting in regards to ME3 today. That means that the dlc they are working on will be the last mass effect 3 related content they ever produce.

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Mafrodon wrote...

I wouldn't mind if it isn't ending dlc. I would like to know if this is going to be the 'One more story'



sigh

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IIEquillibriumII wrote...

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Dark_Enclave33 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...075436635201536 well it seems something is new about some content which mike has tweeted..hmmm...


I'll be damned if I get my hopes up over another one of Mike's tweets. I'm still waiting to have this one explained:

https://twitter.com/...942797880541185


You're not the only one hoping to get that Tweet anwsered


Indeed.