StoneSwords wrote...
Archonsg wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
Archonsg wrote...
Simply put, I do understand what the devs intended that scene to depict. But without exposition and the "what happens next" scene required, both views, that Shepard is alive and that without help, Shepard took his last final breaths before bleeding to death, alone and forgotten are equally valid.
Well, if someone really wants to interpret the scene as Shep dying a couple of seconds later, it's possible. It's still a bizarre interpretation, though, since it means that there's a whole scene that conveys no information.
I can't actually think of a cinematic equivalent.
I do respect and in fact understand the breath scene = Shepard is alive at that point and will live regardless of what is known, what is shown prior.
All I am asking is, looked from my perspective, you have a Shepard who was already in shock, bleeding out, you have a situation where the explosion that Shepard set off tore up and badly damaged the citadel, without a helmet, or fully functioning armor. Even with all his enhancements, he is still of flesh and bone.
I was a combat enginner, so yeah, I *know* exactly what an explosion can do to a hunan body.
Then we have the ambiguity of whether or not Shepard is on the Citadel or on Earth, visual evidence says Earth London, but it could be shoddy lazy work depicting broken concrete / tarmac.
Though whether or not Shepard is on the Citadel, Bioware needs to at least give the player a reasonable premise to work on as to hiw he could survive, blast and space.
So, even if I can accept that Shepard somehow lived through that explosion, and that is a big if, why his head and limbs aren't shorn off at the expose points, my experience and logic tells me he needs help, more so now that his implants were supposed to be destroyed.
Please understand that just that 10 secs and a gasp, and it was a gasp and not constant breathing, paints a very poor picture of Shepard's survival. Since we aren't shown that he received help of any kind. To jump from gasp to "he's alive and well!" is illogical.
Actually it was a sharp intake of breath, indicating that Shepard just suddenly woke up after either getting blown to hell or waking up from an indoctrination attempt, whatever you choose to believe. There would be no point at all of devoting a whole scene to Shepard's last gasp of breath before death
Yeah, at risk of making a pyramid, I have to agree with the previous poster.
You may have been/may be combat engineer
Archonsg, but you have to remember that Bioware most likely isn't, and they are unlikely to consult medical/warfare experts on realism when it comes to such scenes. I find it unlikely they did so with project Lazarus. Since Reaper beans take out dreadnaughts and buildings with ease, and the smaller Reaper on Rannoch is insta death if it hits you, there shouldn't have been a hair of Shepard even left after that initial blast.
They are going and have always gone by action movie physics and durability when it comes to the heroes, Shepard especially. Why would that suddenly change for the ending?
The Catalyst noted that Shepard would most likely die in Destroy, and then walking into an explosion sealed the deal for most people. Shepard was dead. I didn't have high enough EMS the first time through, and so never got the cutscene, and was almost certain that Shepard was ashes. All the wound she had sustained, bleeding out prior to the Catalyst, and that final explosion (and pre-EC, the Citadel seemign to explode fully too). Yeah he was dead. There was no
reason to add a final scene of his/her last breath, especially as a reward for extra effort.
The breathing scene changes things, especially with the 'foreshadowing/hint' of the LI not putting the name-plate up. Do you think any of the LI's, if there is any doubt at all of Shepard being dead, would hesitate for an instant in searching for him? From 'hollywood' point of view, that increases his survival odds a thousandfold. The 'gasp' itself was a big hint (even if it made no sense) prior to the EC, but post-EC it might aswell just outright say 's/he'll live'.
Just my thoughts.
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