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[Basher of Glory]

Playing the game as city elf and as Dalish (both female), I saw and heard a lot of human scumbags who molest elves, hold them as slaves, rape them and so on.

The Dalish lady, who will be the successor of the hate-corrupted old guy tells about her experience with humans who killed elves and "did worse".

In a conversation with Zevran he explains, that it is quite easy for an elf to obtain a human's trust by fraud, because humans in generally tend to see elves as attractive.

I come to the conclusion, that there was always a lot of interaction between humans and elves, be it forced or not. Now, where are the "results" of these interactions? Did I miss some codex-entries about the lore? 
Shouldn't there be thousands of halfelves?

Opinions please!

Modifié par Baher of Glory, 07 janvier 2010 - 11:18 .

[Herr Uhl]

Elves have adaptive genes, a child between a human and an elf is human.

[Kohaku]

David said they don't exist in this world. You're either an elf or human. Unions with elves and humans end up with a human kid.

[Nobody Important]

Elves impregnated by humans give birth to humans in the dragon age universe.

[ejoslin]

When an elf and a human have a baby, the baby is human in this world.

[fantasypisces]

There are no half-elves. Elf-Elf child is an elf, Elf-human child is a human.

There are half-dwarves apparently, they are just very very very rare.

[Bhatair]

Human/Elf relations always produce a human child.

Which I realize still isn't much of an answer as they are still nowhere to be found.

[Sandtigress]

The keeper in the Dalish camp area also mentions that **SPOILER** his daughter was impregnated by the humans who raped her. I wondered the same thing - seems like there should be lots of half-elves running around. Maybe they don't "survive" for various reasons...like their mothers commit suicide or the humans kill them when they're born or something.

[rob123971]

*Spoiler*

when you go to the brecilian forest Swiftrunner tells you about how Zatherian's daughter was raped and killed herself when she learned she was pregnant..... makes me wonder, she coulve had the only half elf in the game...too bad

[Sandtigress]

Huh, interesting on the human/elf thing. Nice useless little bit of trivia there.

[Eruanna Guerrein]

Nope, the posters who said elf-human conception breeds only humans were right. I don't remember who gives you that information in the game but I know I got it somewhere.

[thegreateski]

Elf + Human = Human

[goat_fab]

All the stuff about Elf/Human babies comes from the ending of the Calling, where Maric had the child with the Elven mage who, I assume, is Alistair.

Modifié par WhiteRaevan, 07 janvier 2010 - 11:32 .

[OldMan91]

Something new about your question that others haven't said...

A human impregnating an elf will always result in a human being born.

Or viceversa.

Modifié par OldMan91, 07 janvier 2010 - 11:53 .

[Basher of Glory]

Well, I thought I've read all codex-entries. I really must have missed the one about elf + human = human.

One question which I will not ask is the thing about halfogres ....

Modifié par Baher of Glory, 08 janvier 2010 - 12:47 .

[hereticeyes]

In one of the endings, Soris the cousin of the city elf hero marries a human female. That means that children born from this union are automatically humans, which is kind of unfair for Soris.

[Herr Uhl]

Baher of Glory wrote...
One question which I will not ask is the thing about halfogres ....

Well, when a qunari female and a couple of darkspawn happen to find each other, the darkspawn spews in her mouth and a mutation takes place. And thus an ogre is born.

Edit: Many ogres.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 08 janvier 2010 - 12:56 .

[Namirsolo]

This is quite interesting (elves and humans always have elf babies) and understands why more elves and humans aren't getting married (besides the racism part). Since every human marrying an elf means less elves in the long run, elves view this as being traitors against their race. And they kind of have a point.

[JTBehnke]

The reason Zathrian's daughter commited suicide was specifically because the child of a human and elf coupling is always human. Zathrian and his daughter were both Dalish elves, dedicated to recovering not just ancient elf lore, but the immortality of their ancestors. According to Lanaya, the only way that will happen is for the Dalish to become reclusive and not have contact with humans, as well as keep their ancient bloodlines pure. In the eyes of a Dalish, bearing a human's child is not only damaging to the elven race because it might breed the elves into extinction, but also because it disrupts the Dalish's "slowing down." And since this woman was the daugther of Zathrian, who's probably as Dalish as anyone can get, this would have been something beyond horrible.



It's also the reason why Alienages practice arranged marriages between cities. It brings fresh blood into the families while also avoiding basically breeding to extinction.

[Basher of Glory]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Baher of Glory wrote...
One question which I will not ask is the thing about halfogres ....

Well, when a qunari female and a couple of darkspawn happen to find each other, the darkspawn spews in her mouth and a mutation takes place. And thus an ogre is born.

Edit: Many ogres.

That's common knowledge

But ogre is not HALFOGRE 

BTW, is a darkspawn per se infertile? Thus, the brood mothers must be self-fertile, right? Anything about this in the lore, which I missed again?

Back to the elves:
Someone pointed it out, that there is a lot of racism involved, at both sides. What about the relation dwarves / elves? Are the elves for the dwarves just another tribe of surface-walkers? Or are the dwarves for the elves soooo out of the question that every self respecting elf would not even bother to ignore a dwarf?

[errant_knight]

I'd guess that elves and humans have too many genetic differences to reproduce, or at least that it's rare, otherwise yeah, we'd see some half elves.

JTBehnke wrote...

The reason Zathrian's daughter commited suicide was specifically because the child of a human and elf coupling is always human. Zathrian and his daughter were both Dalish elves, dedicated to recovering not just ancient elf lore, but the immortality of their ancestors. According to Lanaya, the only way that will happen is for the Dalish to become reclusive and not have contact with humans, as well as keep their ancient bloodlines pure. In the eyes of a Dalish, bearing a human's child is not only damaging to the elven race because it might breed the elves into extinction, but also because it disrupts the Dalish's "slowing down." And since this woman was the daugther of Zathrian, who's probably as Dalish as anyone can get, this would have been something beyond horrible.

It's also the reason why Alienages practice arranged marriages between cities. It brings fresh blood into the families while also avoiding basically breeding to extinction.

Oh. okay, that makes sense. Well, in a story sense. In terms of genetics, it makes no sense at all.

Modifié par errant_knight, 08 janvier 2010 - 02:21 .

[Herr Uhl]

Baher of Glory wrote...
BTW, is a darkspawn per se infertile? Thus, the brood mothers must be self-fertile, right? Anything about this in the lore, which I missed again?

I think that the "spew" somehow impregnates and corrupts all the eggs in the womb. When the eggs are gone, broodmother gets discarded.

But this is guesses, otherwise darkspawn seem to have no other way to propagate.

[drake heath]

errant_knight wrote...

I'd guess that elves and humans have too many genetic differences to reproduce, or at least that it's rare, otherwise yeah, we'd see some half elves.

Oh. okay, that makes sense. Well, in a story sense. In terms of genetics, it makes no sense at all.

IMO I just veiw the races as all Humans but just differnt genes as in they all have the same number of chromosomes just they look different then each other because thats how they evolved. I guess,

[elys]

IMO I just veiw the races as all Humans but just differnt genes as in they all have the same number of chromosomes just they look different then each other because thats how they evolved. I guess,

Or just how the Maker have created them

Modifié par elys, 08 janvier 2010 - 03:13 .

[macole1213]

I would prefer it if
the unions are steril.