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[Cyonan]

UKStory135 wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Draining Dragon wrote...

By the way, TC has ruined lots of powers for non-infiltrator classes.

So all you annoying anti-nerfers have actually caused more nerfs than the nerfers.

The only abilities that have been nerfed because of an Infiltrator is Stim Pack and Hunter Mode.

Neither of those abilities are ruined for the Geth Engineer, Trooper, or Havoc Soldier.

2 is hardly "lots of powers" anyway even if they were ruined.

I'm suprised you didn't mention anything about your QFI, the most nerfed character in the game there. The Geth are both still top-tier.  The Havok honestly need some adjustments to his Havok strike that aren't something that can be fixed in balance changes.  He either needs 90+% DR for a few seconds post strike or some sort of Vanguard style shield restoration.

Sabotage is a bit subjective due to what has happened to Backfire(to say nothing of Sticky Grenade) =P

Havoc Strike can be given 90% DR after the strike through a balance change. It currently gives 50% for 4 seconds, which Biotic Charge also gives.

[Creighton72]

OMG, you know I don't remember the last time I was on this site or played ME3. Just stopped in to see if anyone still played multi. And the first thread I see is a nerf TC thread. Hahahahahah, the more things change the morethey stay the same. What a bunch of goofs.

[Boog_89]

Draining Dragon wrote...

It's overpowered. Don't go off on your immature little rants of "NERFERS R RUINING THE GAME" or "STAWP NOE ITS NAWT".

Let's look at what it gives:

1. A damage boost ranging from 40%-105% (80% if not using a sniper rifle)
2. Partial invisibility for a duration ranging from 4-11.2 seconds.
3. The ability to cancel any other power cooldowns and disregard weight.

That's the ultimate power. And it's ONE power. 

Here are my proposed changes:

Remove the scaling cooldown based on time spent in cloak. Tactical Cloak should have a static cooldown, changing based on how you spec it and your weapon weight, like every other power. Infiltrators currently can ignore the only downside of using powerful weapons.

Reduce the damage bonus increase evolution on Rank 4 to 30%, and increase the sniper rifle damage bonus evolution to 40%. That way, using a sniper rifle is actually worth the extra damage, and infiltrators can become snipers again.

Now go ahead. Unleash your butthurt.

EDIT: Oh, I almost forgot. Tactical Cloak has single handedly gotten a ****load of powers nerfed.

Stim packs, hunter mode, and more.

ZZZZZZZZZZZz

If it was so overpowered then I would see a huge improvement in my own score/gampleay when I use infiltrators. Not the case.

[kitty209]

why wont everyone just shut up and enjoy the game without making it more and more difficult to people that just want to play the game? typhoon use to be great, but you guys just had to blow it and get it nerfed to the point it dos not deserve its UR spot anymore, you keep crying like babies about nerfing varios powers and eventually they are nerfed to the point they are useless.

to make it short and sweet, you cant please everyone at once, and thats a fact, so just shut up and enjoy the co-op game, or go cry on another game that have player vs player modes.

[DSxCallOfBooty-]

Draining Dragon wrote...

Reduce the damage bonus increase evolution on Rank 4 to 30%, and increase the sniper rifle damage bonus evolution to 40%. That way, using a sniper rifle is actually worth the extra damage, and infiltrators can become snipers again.

This had better be a troll thread.  Really.

If Infiltrators are modified to be intended to only use Sniper Rifles, I'm abanoning the MP completely.  Not a lot of things would make me do that, but if Sniper Rifle damage was increased I'd be out of here completely.

I haven't read the entire thread though, so I'm hoping it's a troll thread and not what I think it is.

EDIT:  Didn't really give an explanation as to why; butthurt was flowing strongly through me.  Making Sniper Rifles more effective in the hands of Infiltrators without benefiting other weapon types strongly stifles player creativity.

Modifié par DSxCallOfBooty-, 12 janvier 2013 - 02:04 .

[Cyonan]

kitty209 wrote...

why wont everyone just shut up and enjoy the game without making it more and more difficult to people that just want to play the game? typhoon use to be great, but you guys just had to blow it and get it nerfed to the point it dos not deserve its UR spot anymore, you keep crying like babies about nerfing varios powers and eventually they are nerfed to the point they are useless.

to make it short and sweet, you cant please everyone at once, and thats a fact, so just shut up and enjoy the co-op game, or go cry on another game that have player vs player modes.

That'd be a nice point you have there if we actually asked for the Typhoon to be nerfed.

(spoiler alert: We didn't)

[iloveexplosives]

i agree completely with the CD nerf. weapon dmg should be only for snipers and shotguns and maybe give a shield penalty when decloking so its harder for the god powerd blk widows and claymores

[Cyonan]

Flaming Snake wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

kitty209 wrote...

why wont everyone just shut up and enjoy the game without making it more and more difficult to people that just want to play the game? typhoon use to be great, but you guys just had to blow it and get it nerfed to the point it dos not deserve its UR spot anymore, you keep crying like babies about nerfing varios powers and eventually they are nerfed to the point they are useless.

to make it short and sweet, you cant please everyone at once, and thats a fact, so just shut up and enjoy the co-op game, or go cry on another game that have player vs player modes.

That'd be a nice point you have there if we actually asked for the Typhoon to be nerfed.

(spoiler alert: We didn't)

What Cyonan said. The Devs themselves actually made a thread up the top of the page wanting us to talk about the Typhoon, because they weren't sure how it would be handled. Evidentally, it became an "I win" combo when used with the Destroyer, so they nerfed it.

What's amusing is that it's still insanely powerful on the Human Soldier because you don't ever need to reload the gun when you have Extended Mags.

but nobody notices the Human Soldier's power.

[Astronaughte]

I'd be fine with that if under TC you're 100% invisible and ignored by enemies

[Draining Dragon]

In case you were wondering, this was the thread that started the "tactical cloak thread" fad.

[UKStory135]

Creighton72 wrote...

OMG, you know I don't remember the last time I was on this site or played ME3. Just stopped in to see if anyone still played multi. And the first thread I see is a nerf TC thread. Hahahahahah, the more things change the morethey stay the same. What a bunch of goofs.

This actually all started back up this morning.

[landylan]

This game is at its end. Who cares. Just leave it alone. It's only good because of all the bosses. I don't really see infiltrators as OP on gold or below anymore.

[T Black panther]

Succesfull troll is succesfull.

[Snydthegamer]

I play on PS3 on a regular basis and I rarely see people playing as infiltrators these days. Besides, this particular portion of the game is co-op so this particular thing doesn't really bug me much. When it all comes down to it its a bunch of people using powers n guns to destroy ****. I don't see any reason to complain when certain things are more powerful than others...

[wes60620]

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

spadeN7 wrote...

Omega2079 wrote...

The game is designed to have a variety of damage outputs. TC works as intended.

agreed!!!!

So some characters are supposed to be sucktacular and some spectacular, eh?    Hardly seems fair.

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Just because you dislike some characters doesn’t mean that
other players will feel the same.  I personally think Vanguards are not
all that great but I'm not campaigning to nerf them.

The point is that is why you have a variety of characters to fit your taste
& fighting stile.

Modifié par wes60620, 12 janvier 2013 - 06:08 .

[RaenImrahl]

I think the TC "discussions" are all done. Please remember that continuing to post multiple versions of the same topic is considered spamming under the forum's code of conduct. Locked.