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[Wolfsbladex]

Reviving wrote...

Excellent research OP.

Going to be upset when they get around to patching it.

Yep. They're gonna patch it as fast a SMG ULM. We've got like almost half a year. 

[unclemonster]

k1ngl1ves wrote...

Are you sure the weight is increased on the PPR? I don't notice a difference. Is there any available proof/testing for this? All other weapons listed in the OP appear to be correct...

Edit:  Being discussed in another thread as well.  Yes/No can't be too long...

yes, weight is increased on PPR unfortunately

take the steps on page 1 and you can see what works and what doesnt work precisely with cooldowns before and after

Modifié par unclemonster, 06 février 2013 - 06:21 .

[FateNeverEnds]

Is this what some call "clever use of game mechanics"?

I wonder what Gallows fwen has to say about this.

[FateNeverEnds]

In the meantime, my Salarian Infiltrator is gonna work miracles with his Black Widow shooting mooks through walls without drill ammo while debuffing armored units with Proximity Mine and draining Marauders' shields. Thanks a lot.

Modifié par FateNeverEnds, 06 février 2013 - 07:14 .

[Koenig888]

Thanks, OP. This is useful.

[k1ngl1ves]

unclemonster wrote...

k1ngl1ves wrote...

Are you sure the weight is increased on the PPR? I don't notice a difference. Is there any available proof/testing for this? All other weapons listed in the OP appear to be correct...

Edit:  Being discussed in another thread as well.  Yes/No can't be too long...

yes, weight is increased on PPR unfortunately

take the steps on page 1 and you can see what works and what doesnt work precisely with cooldowns before and after

I tested it in game about 15 minutes ago.  It does add weight to the PPR...

[unclemonster]

FateNeverEnds wrote...

In the meantime, my Salarian Infiltrator is gonna work miracles with his Black Widow shooting mooks through walls without drill ammo while debuffing armored units with Proximity Mine and draining Marauders' shields. Thanks a lot.

you are very welcome thanks to hardcoresalmon also for thread revival

[unclemonster]

Koenig888 wrote...

Thanks, OP. This is useful.

you are very welcome thanks to hardcoresalmon also for thread revival

Koenig are you on PS3?

[SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING]

unclemonster wrote...

no one cares for this juicy info?

dont matter to me none....i already new this

reason why i have HVB and AP on ALL my snipers NO exceptions EVEN on teh Harpoon which i never use

[unclemonster]

SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING wrote...

unclemonster wrote...

no one cares for this juicy info?

dont matter to me none....i already new this

reason why i have HVB and AP on ALL my snipers NO exceptions EVEN on teh Harpoon which i never use

Well it should matter because you definitely add weight on these 3 sniper rifles. It also POSSIBLY matters if you carry a sidearm w/ ULM equipped AND it matters if you go to your weapon selection screen to look at your weapons/mods as it will revert to added weight mods

Kishock
Krysae
CSR

Modifié par unclemonster, 06 février 2013 - 08:19 .

[Howtown]

How exactly does one check the cooldowns in the powers screen? The only way I've ever seen the percentage is from the weapons screen, which you can't look at after you re-select your character? What am I missing?

Is it just the recharge speed for each individual power?

Modifié par Howtown, 06 février 2013 - 09:24 .

[nicethugbert]

How do we know that it is not the powers screen that is bugged instead of the mods? The only way to know if the mods are bugged is too time the powers in game.

[najzere]

Howtown wrote...
How exactly does one check the cooldowns
in the powers screen? The only way I've ever seen the percentage is from
the weapons screen, which you can't look at after you re-select your
character? What am I missing?

Is it just the recharge speed for each individual power?

Yeah, individual power recharge speed.

nicethugbert wrote...
How do we know that it is not the powers screen that is bugged instead of the mods? The only way to know if the mods are bugged is too time the powers in game.

Exactly. Hopefully we will see some proof when a video gets posted in another thread, although I don't know if all scenarios are being tested, such as two non-ULM weight penalty mods on the same gun.

[unclemonster]

nicethugbert wrote...

How do we know that it is not the powers screen that is bugged instead of the mods? The only way to know if the mods are bugged is too time the powers in game.

Because I have already gone through several mod combination loadouts and timed and tested it. If you take the simple steps listed on page 1 and check your power recharge times, THEY ARE TRUE, ACCURATE, AND CORRECT!

[unclemonster]

Howtown wrote...

How exactly does one check the cooldowns in the powers screen? The only way I've ever seen the percentage is from the weapons screen, which you can't look at after you re-select your character? What am I missing?

Is it just the recharge speed for each individual power?

yes, it is the recharge speed of the powers. it will change when you go from the weapon screen, then back to character screen. look at power screen again at your recharge times. what it shows here is true concerning heavy mods being weightless

[kelly ripas bicep]

1. have you also confirmed that the benefit of the mod remains when you trick the system into ignoring weight?

2. You aren't saying that you can after all apply these mods penalty free to DLC weapons, are you? Just that you can check with this method to see or not.

[MyCell]

I was just wondering.. Has the Weight-Bug got fixed with the new DLC?
Probably it's just my imagination, but sometimes I tend to think, that it got fixed on some of the weapons.

[soulstriker09]

 not just you... .___.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

This bug is currently being dicussed again, so bump. 

[service_is_down]

Well this just opened up the door to a whole lot of new loadouts

[Argent Xero]

So everything but DLC weapons are weight bugged right?

[Evil]

ArgentN7 wrote...

So everything but DLC weapons are weight bugged right?

I'm surprised no-one's answered yet.

Any gun that's on the disk can potentially be used with weight adding mods without incuring the weight cost.

But, the bug is actually buggy too, so occasionally the weight will be applied correctly when you wouldn't expect it to be, so be careful.

Also, equipping any ULM mods on either gun will cause the weight to be added, so don't try to use a omniblade Graal with an ULM hurricane for example.

A list of gun's that the bug doesn't work on:
Striker Assault Rifle.
Adas Anti-Synthetic Rifle.
M-11 Suppressor.
Acolyte.
Reegar Carbine.
N7 Piranha.
Geth Plasma SMG.
Krysae Sniper Rifle.
Collector Sniper Rifle.
Kishock Harpoon Gun.
Geth Spitfire.
Particle Rifle.
M-7 Lancer.
N7 Typhoon.
Cerberus Harrier.
Venom Shotgun.
Collector SMG.
Blood Pack Punisher.

There's a bunch of guns such as the AT-12 Raider that people sometimes call DLC guns because they were locked at the games release, and only made available from the store at a later date, but the bug does work on them.

The chakram launcher is an example of a gun that's on the disk, but was never unlocked in the store, but some PC players have gained access to it via modding, just to highlight the point that these "locked" gun's aren't DLC.

EDIT: Apart from being out of date, the OP's info is good, the bit about going into the power screen, memorising the purported cooldown times with weight adding mods, then returning to the default character screen, then returning to the power screen to see if the power cooldowns have returned to their normal values is useful.

Just don't return to the weapon select screen on that kit, because it'll re-calculate the cooldowns, fixing the bug, so if you need to change the loadout of a weight bugged kit, always return to the default character screen immediately afterwards to re-apply the bug.

Modifié par Evil Mastered, 22 décembre 2013 - 04:45 .

[Shampoohorn]

Meh, I've had the glitch come and go during matches with my BW drell dept and other kits. Not worth the trouble of having recharge times suddenly double in wave six, or whenever.

[Aquaman 40oz]

I'd take half a match with zero weight penalty. Albeit I'd rather it be the second half than the first, given a choice.

But I use this bug/glitch routinely. It's become a "game feature" in my mind. In practice it's not that big a factor, as I learn a combo's rhythm and you just learn to deal. Especially as if you are going for combo damage the weapon damage is of little import - no need for a heavy shotty if you are just delivering incendiary ammo.

[Argent Xero]

Thank you Evil Mastered!