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"Most people played as humans in DA:O, so from now on the protagonists will be human."


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"Most people played male characters, so from now on all protagonists will be male."

"Most people chose straight romance options, so from now on only females will be romanceable."

"Most people chose good options over evil options, so from now on the player will only have the option to be good."



See where this logic eventually leads? At what point does catering to the masses become laziness?

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It mean they have a budget and have to make choice.

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*takes a drink*

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I think I'll get some popcorn for this one.

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Oh, please. Take a look at this

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Good thing they never used that ****ty logic, that's all you buddy.

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Dwarves were best in DA:O. So the PC should be a dwarf. End of story.

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King Cousland wrote...

Oh, please. Take a look at this


Yay, some future DLC will let us play as other races maybe.

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This is gonna be a fun thread.

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batlin wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

Oh, please. Take a look at this


Yay, some future DLC will let us play as other races maybe.


Nobody is forcing you to buy the game. If the race you play is all you care about I'd suggest DOTA 2 or League of Legends. There's about a hundred different heroes/champions in either of those games- that should keep you occupied.

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"And here we go again..." - Sarcastic Hawke

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A characters race should not be more important than the character themselves. That just makes people seem like racist for focusing soley on what race a character is or isnt.

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At no point did any Bioware developer say this ever. The only person using this fallacious logic is you, as a strawman to support utterly baseless paranoia.

You're correlating two statements that have no connection to each other. Bioware does not base all or even most of its design decisions on gamer statistics. I rather doubt that any of its decisions take that information into account.

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see that alll mighty yelp you give in the shower?? thats the yelp of being a ****....get used to it because thats the category your life belongs to

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batlin wrote...

"Most people played male characters, so from now on all protagonists will be male."

"Most people chose straight romance options, so from now on only females will be romanceable."

"Most people chose good options over evil options, so from now on the player will only have the option to be good."



See where this logic eventually leads? At what point does catering to the masses become laziness?


Re point in bold, you do know that 47% of gamers are female these days right?

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xsdob wrote...

A characters race should not be more important than the character themselves. That just makes people seem like racist for focusing soley on what race a character is or isnt.


Can you be racist about fantasy races? And is that racism, if it can exist, of any consequence whatsoever? 

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XX-Pyro wrote...

Nobody is forcing you to buy the game. If the race you play is all you care about I'd suggest DOTA 2 or League of Legends. There's about a hundred different heroes/champions in either of those games- that should keep you occupied.


It would be for more reasons than only the race options, but I might pass on this game, yeah. And if DA2's sales figures were any indication, so will a lot of other people.

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tishyw wrote...

batlin wrote...

"Most people played male characters, so from now on all protagonists will be male."

"Most people chose straight romance options, so from now on only females will be romanceable."

"Most people chose good options over evil options, so from now on the player will only have the option to be good."



See where this logic eventually leads? At what point does catering to the masses become laziness?


Re point in bold, you do know that 47% of gamers are female these days right?


That statistic is a bit disingenuous because IIRC they count women who only play games like Angry Birds

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calypsnex wrote...

xsdob wrote...

A characters race should not be more important than the character themselves. That just makes people seem like racist for focusing soley on what race a character is or isnt.


Can you be racist about fantasy races? And is that racism, if it can exist, of any consequence whatsoever? 

Yes and yes. Dirty racists everywhere.

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repoint in fact, why dont you all stop being ****s an enjoy the games for games an debate them on there merits or lack of instead of being you know wanks

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batlin wrote...

tishyw wrote...

batlin wrote...

"Most people played male characters, so from now on all protagonists will be male."

"Most people chose straight romance options, so from now on only females will be romanceable."

"Most people chose good options over evil options, so from now on the player will only have the option to be good."



See where this logic eventually leads? At what point does catering to the masses become laziness?


Re point in bold, you do know that 47% of gamers are female these days right?


That statistic is a bit disingenuous because IIRC they count women who only play games like Angry Birds


Regardless, for female gamers like me only having females romanceable would preclude them from choosing the straight romance option, so your logic there is flawed.

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This thread title should be "Strawman".

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batlin wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

Oh, please. Take a look at this


Yay, some future DLC will let us play as other races maybe.

I'm guessing that is multiplayer, hence meaningless.

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I should go

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Suprez30 wrote...

It mean they have a budget and have to make choice.


sorry, but for a TITAN of the gaming industry bringing up the word "budget" constantly (even more so as the other industry titan (Activision-Blizzard) does not) is stupid - even more so, as EA has the money (come on guys that company is HUGE and has lots money!)

so yes, they had a choice and they chose - AGAIN AND AGAIN - to go after more money, instead of keeping their customers satisfied (which would bring the money in, too - only in the long run instead of "here on now")

@OP: yes i see it and i don't like it anymore then you do, i mean they kicked us in the guts repeatedly (DA2, ME3, SW:TOR) and i sadly (as i LOVED this company, because they made such great games (KOTOR, ME1 and ME2, DA:O...etc.)) have the feeling they are lining is up for the "perfect" kick (in the nuts this time)

why do i think so? - because they had the audacity to lie to us (straight into our faces, too) with ME3...that broke the damn IMHO...

I hope they make it back on the track, but with EA calling the "budget" (forgetting that a good RPG costs money, more then some shooter will probably ever cost (if you don't count the money for the uber-mega-super grafics-engine that hides the fact that the shooter does not have much of a story)...that they forget that almost any company can make a shooter, but that it takes the right people (which they have - also the bioware founders left...should that be a signal to us?...rats leaving the ship or something?) to make a good RPG and that such a game has its audience which will bring in money and tie the fans to the company because they want to know how the story goes on!) they might fail and after this game they will loose a lot of fans (because most of us are not here to get kicked around (like with ME3 extended cut, which fixed a few plotholes but left the ****ty ending in place!)...

I PRAY THAT THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN....but i have the feeling it will.

greetings LAX