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[Mims]

So much hilarity.

In truth though, its possible they once had males at some point in the evolutionary chain of the asari. Then much like several all female species of lizards, they compensated for the lack of males by finding a new way to reproduce.

[Sinophile]

Is that a corgi in your profile pic?

If male Asari did exist in some age or day, I'm sure Javik would have
tuned in, since his race directed the Asari. Fail debate is fail. An
Asari is both M and F.

Lol.

Javik was not a scientist, historian, or a scholar of any kind,  he was a soldier., that is like saying every infantryman in the British Army knows every dirty little secret about the East India Company.

Are you seriously comparing Fox News to the Codex? The codex is a
collection of lore facts written by the writers, not necesarily
in-character knowledge for Shepard, even.

The codex is little more than Wikipedia in space. If games like Mass Effect have taught us anything, it's that we should be weary of "Legit" sources of information. For example, in the Star Wars universe, Windy Starkiller has changed genders several times. There is also confliction info given about Han Solo.

Modifié par Sinophile, 18 janvier 2013 - 04:12 .

[Sundance31us]

This topic again...

*mem removed per Site Rules #6*

I hear the last two male Asari were killed while trying to rob a diner in an alternate universe.

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 18 janvier 2013 - 11:17 .

[Big I]

Sinophile wrote...
Has anyone ever noticed that there are only two female smurfs(Smurfette and one of the smurf kids)

If I remember correctly, there are no naturally occuring female smurfs. All smurfs are male, with the exception of the artificially created female ones made by the wizard Gargamal. Basically they're unique engineered individuals with smurf-like qualities.


On topic, there are no male asari. Asari have only one gender.

[inko1nsiderate]

Sundance31us wrote...

This topic again...

*snip*

I hear the last two male Asari were killed while trying to rob a diner in an alternate universe.

I heard some peacekeaper got them killed.

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

Sinophile wrote...

Is that a corgi in your profile pic?

If male Asari did exist in some age or day, I'm sure Javik would have
tuned in, since his race directed the Asari. Fail debate is fail. An
Asari is both M and F.

Lol.

Javik was not a scientist, historian, or a scholar of any kind,  he was a soldier., that is like saying every infantryman in the British Army knows every dirty little secret about the East India Company.

He wasn't just a soldier, he was a high ranking soldier. He was well informed, otherwise he wouldn't argue to Liara about it if he had no prior knowledge. You can't argue with someone who is debating maths while you don't even know what 1+1 equals now do you?

[samurai crusade]

ZeCollectorDestroya wrote...

Sinophile wrote...
Is that a corgi in your profile pic?

If male Asari did exist in some age or day, I'm sure Javik would have
tuned in, since his race directed the Asari. Fail debate is fail. An
Asari is both M and F.

Lol.

Javik was not a scientist, historian, or a scholar of any kind,  he was a soldier., that is like saying every infantryman in the British Army knows every dirty little secret about the East India Company.

He wasn't just a soldier, he was a high ranking soldier. He was well informed, otherwise he wouldn't argue to Liara about it if he had no prior knowledge. You can't argue with someone who is debating maths while you don't even know what 1+1 equals now do you?

aell some people like to argue no matter how ignorant or uninformed they are.    That said. Any Asari who fathers a child becomes "male" in my opinion.   The race is mono gendered. But a father is a father

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

Gisle-Aune wrote...

ZeCollectorDestroya wrote...

The game has STATED that the Asari are monogendered, this should end this theory. Hell, male Asari don't even make any sense. It's just Asari. Not female Asari. Female and male do not exist in the Asari's world. Comparing them to humans is laughable (Yet they look like human females, since that is clear fan service) and here you wanted a debate on species evolving. If male Asari did exist in some age or day, I'm sure Javik would have tuned in, since his race directed the Asari. Fail debate is fail. An Asari is both M and F.

Lol. 

From an non-asari perspective they are very much female. From an asari perspective, they are asari. They're not both male and female, they are one gender and that gender is female. The words have no real meaning to them, because they are not necessary in describing an asari. Maybe the concept of gender was introduced after alien contact, or even before if Thessian fauna had gendered species.

Whether asari had males is no longer relevant in-universe.

Nope, they are both genders. Since they can either "pop it out" or "pop the seed." They are combined, which is why they don't require a criteria of gender. Asari can be compared to post-op transsexual women (That ruined your thoughts on Asari didn't it?)

And if the Asari had males, why wouldn't they tell the galaxy? It isn't like keeping a Prothean artifact in your museum that gives ultimate power. It's like telling other races that once on Earth there were Dinosaurs. So that can also come to mind.

The evidence has out-proven that male gender Asari never existed. The council has dismissed this claim.

[Wulfram]

There's no evidence that the Asari haven't told the galaxy. It's just about as relevant to modern Asari as Australopithecus is to humans

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

Ardipithecus is a better example. It isn't about the evidence that the Asari haven't told the galaxy, but as to why they wouldn't in the first place.

[Wulfram]

ZeCollectorDestroya wrote...

Ardipithecus is a better example. It isn't about the evidence that the Asari haven't told the galaxy, but as to why they wouldn't in the first place.

I don't see any reason they wouldn't.  But in the absence of evidence that they haven't told the galaxy, I don't see the relevance.

[Fiddles dee dee]

Seriously? This thread lives? With a blue Hugh Jackman and a Farscape reference and talk of asexual reproduction this just keeps ticking.

It's getting to the point where I will pay a BioWare writer an embarrassing amount of money to write it all up so this conversation can stop happening. It's almost as bad as the debates about Liara's eyebrows.

[CARL_DF90]

Hey OP! You know, another thread like the one below was active for a while. Give it a look because it has a lot of good info and theories like your's. I personally find the idea to be intriguing and would LOVE for Bioware to play around with it sometime in the future.

http://social.biowar...3/index/6516730

[mastero87]

Holy crapsnacks, male asari... wtf did i just read?

Anyhow, there is no male or female asari. It's a mono-gender race. They look like females, yes, because the story needed big titted space-elves but they impregnate as well, so they are males just as much they are females. (I hope everyone thought of that when you romanced Liara ^^)

[CARL_DF90]

Please learn to read things before speaking. Words used included "theory" and "idea", meaning something to discuss, ponder, brainstorm, and wonder about. Not to be taken literally unless Bioware decides to take the idea and run with it, which would be pretty cool.

[Islandrockzor]

It is quite obvious: The tentacle-things on the asari's heads are male asari, in the same fashion as the angler fish example.

When an asari mind melds, she is ready for getting preggers, so the male tentacles inject asari-sperm.

She is then pregnant with a small pack of male asari tentacle larva, and a female asari baby.

At birth, the male asari will attach themselves to the female baby's head, and wait there for decades and centuries until she is ready to get pregnant.

[red pies]

ok heres the thing...
there are no male asari's
there never were any male asari's
there never will be any male asari's
myth = busted

[Islandrockzor]

red pies wrote...

ok heres the thing...
there are no male asari's
there never were any male asari's
there never will be any male asari's
myth = busted

You're buying into the deception! The thing, as you put it, is that the female Asari don't realise that their head-tentacles actually are male Asari themselves.

[Sinophile]

Islandrockzor wrote...

It is quite obvious: The tentacle-things on the asari's heads are male asari, in the same fashion as the angler fish example.

When an asari mind melds, she is ready for getting preggers, so the male tentacles inject asari-sperm.

She is then pregnant with a small pack of male asari tentacle larva, and a female asari baby.

At birth, the male asari will attach themselves to the female baby's head, and wait there for decades and centuries until she is ready to get pregnant.

That actually makes more sense than what the codex tells us. Also thank you for being the first person to bring up the Angler Fish analogy.

[mastero87]

CARL_DF90 wrote...

Please learn to read things before speaking. Words used included "theory" and "idea", meaning something to discuss, ponder, brainstorm, and wonder about. Not to be taken literally unless Bioware decides to take the idea and run with it, which would be pretty cool.

I'm not entirely stupid, believe me, so I'll just discard that 'learn to read before speaking'. I've done that. I know it's a theory. A theory and an idea can still be stupid. But my personal opinion is that this theory is so meaningless, and also, somewhat stupid, that it doesn't make sense to ponder about. Nevertheless you can brainstorm as much about male asaris as you wish, I just expressed my utter astonishment upon this idea and the fact that there is actually a discussion going on about that (the pics were funny as hell though). C'mon, you're talking about male asaris. It's like female geth.

[vware]

dreman9999 wrote...

Seriously...The codex is right there in the game.

[CARL_DF90]

 @ mastero87

I don't know. There was a female robot in Crono Trigger. <_<;)

[gisle]

ZeCollectorDestroya wrote...

Nope, they are both genders.
Since they can either "pop it out" or "pop the seed." They are combined,
which is why they don't require a criteria of gender. Asari can be
compared to post-op transsexual women (That ruined your thoughts on
Asari didn't it?)

And if the Asari had males, why wouldn't they
tell the galaxy? It isn't like keeping a Prothean artifact in your
museum that gives ultimate power. It's like telling other races that
once on Earth there were Dinosaurs. So that can also come to mind.

The evidence has out-proven that male gender Asari never existed. The council has dismissed this claim.

If there were no need to differentiate male or female for our species, the words wouldn't exist. There would be one gender and thats it... or there would be no concept of gender at all. In the asari's case, there is one gender. Gender is in a dictionary "Either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as male or female." Asari are not among the "many species" this definion speaks of, since they do not  have "these two major forms of individuals."

Islandrockzor wrote...

It is quite obvious: The tentacle-things on the asari's heads are male asari, in the same fashion as the angler fish example.

When an asari mind melds, she is ready for getting preggers, so the male tentacles inject asari-sperm.

She is then pregnant with a small pack of male asari tentacle larva, and a female asari baby.

At
birth, the male asari will attach themselves to the female baby's head,
and wait there for decades and centuries until she is ready to get
pregnant.

The game already have these defined as, "Cartilage-based scalp crests that grow into shape." They are just as alive as the flappy things on each side of the human skull. Also, for a long-lived species, evolution would have ruled out a critical part of reproduction being on such an exposed position as on the top of the head. Also, it would have been mentioned in-game or in any of the books if that was true.

Modifié par Gisle-Aune, 19 janvier 2013 - 04:36 .

[StarcloudSWG]

There are no Asari males now.

There may have been Asari males in the past, in recent enough times* that it made it into myth. Look up the codex entry on Vilius; a trickster demon that seduces Asari, but mating with it only produces deformed Asari.

Myths sometimes are based on a faintly remembered truth. But due to the parthenogenic reproductive process of the Asari, once that ability matured in the evolutionary process, the need for a second sex became irrelevant.

Alternately, Asari reproduction heavily favors females, and the rate of male births kept declining as males provided no survival advantage as individuals, and did not contribute in any meaningful way to the survival of the species.

So by the time Asari formed communities, even the rare male births were considered to be the offspring of demons and likely killed or outcast.

End result? There ARE no modern male Asari. The gene complexes necessary have been entirely eliminated from the gene pool.

*recent being within the past few hundred thousand years, prior to recorded history.

Modifié par StarcloudSWG, 19 janvier 2013 - 07:58 .