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[Sinophile]

The game already have these defined as, "Cartilage-based scalp crests
that grow into shape." They are just as alive as the flappy things on
each side of the human skull. Also, for a long-lived species, evolution
would have ruled out a critical part of reproduction being on such an
exposed position as on the top of the head. Also, it would have been
mentioned in-game or in any of the books if that was true.

Have you read the angler fish wikipedia article in the OP? Also, let's use the Star Wars universe as a parallel example. Midichlorians were not mentioned in the first three SW movies, or the twenty or so novels published before 1999. However, Once movie #4 came out.... How come Obi-Wan didn't tell Luke about all this midi-chlorian stuff?

CARL_DF90 wrote...

 @ mastero87

I don't know. There was a female robot in Crono Trigger. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie][smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie][smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]

This is a serious discussion mastero, please do not derail
this topic by bringing up Kid's games. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]
But
come to think of it, most robots in pop culture tend to be "male"(E.G.
Robby the Robot). Still wouldn't their need need to be female geth,
especially if they see themselves as sentient? A sentient race needs to
reproduce.

[CARL_DF90]

 Heh. Sorry. That was not my intention. Besides, that game was a classic. 

Anywho, did you check out that link for the previous male Asari discussion thread I posted? You find it interesting.

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

samurai crusade wrote...

ZeCollectorDestroya wrote...

Sinophile wrote...
Is that a corgi in your profile pic?

If male Asari did exist in some age or day, I'm sure Javik would have
tuned in, since his race directed the Asari. Fail debate is fail. An
Asari is both M and F.

Lol.

Javik was not a scientist, historian, or a scholar of any kind,  he was a soldier., that is like saying every infantryman in the British Army knows every dirty little secret about the East India Company.

He wasn't just a soldier, he was a high ranking soldier. He was well informed, otherwise he wouldn't argue to Liara about it if he had no prior knowledge. You can't argue with someone who is debating maths while you don't even know what 1+1 equals now do you?

aell some people like to argue no matter how ignorant or uninformed they are.    That said. Any Asari who fathers a child becomes "male" in my opinion.   The race is mono gendered. But a father is a father

Yes, they become the Father. How does someone argue without knowing anything? Imma try that sometime...

[Selene Moonsong]

Based on ME 1, I find the notion of a 'male' Asari a total absurdity.

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 20 janvier 2013 - 01:15 .

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

Asari are like Snails *According to IGN*

They have both reproduction parts. If people compare Asari to Humans, then take a look at our evolution cycle. We had always needed a male and a female. Sudden changes of the genome can only be done externally, like radiation, which is more likely to kill you than give you some sexual gender change.

[Sinophile]

Based on ME 1, I find the notion of a 'male' Asari a total absurdity.

How much you wanna bet Male Asari will be featured in ME4? If I may refer back to Star Wars, prior to the 4th movie, Darth Vader being a prepubescent junk yard slave who built C3PO, was the only human to win a pod-race, destroy a space station, and win the heart of some teenage queen twice his age; to be absurd to most fans. If George Lucas can get away with it, why not Bioware?

Heh. Sorry. That was not my intention. Besides, that game was a classic. 
Anywho, did you check out that link for the previous male Asari discussion thread I posted? You find it interesting.

I meant that last post as sarcasm, but the smiley face didn't show up right. I did skim the topic, but I got lost at the walls of texts. It does look pretty much like mine, despite being posted a year earlier(before Me3'S release). However, no one mentioned Angler fish or Star Wars.
Also, this is a spoiler-free section, but no one has mentioned Liara's "father"., who referred to the humans as an "anthropocentric bag of dicks".

[Rasofe]

MY EYES! THE IMPLANTS, THEY DO NOTHING!!

Edit: The original poster is just proud that he can put a new spin on this nonsens by involving angler fish, star wars and smurfs. Creative idea for a joke, but you guys don't really think he's serious, right?

Modifié par Rasofe, 20 janvier 2013 - 04:43 .

[DeathScepter]

i do hate to admit this, i am siding with canon junkies and science nerds. Asari due to their biology, can't have males what so ever but they reproduce through pathogenesis.

[Rasofe]

Also,

Sinophile wrote...

Zkyire wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

You know, i had hoped for a semi-intelligent discussion based on biomedical advances and such...

Here?

 Whoever thought up the Asari probably didn't have a degree in biology, this is why franchises such as Mass Effect and Star Wars are more akin to Fantasy than science fiction(let alone science fact). 
 Also, people used to believe that there was no such thing as female dwarves. The dwarves let people believe this to keep people from stealing their women, however they soon realized that non-dwarves weren't really into bearded women. Therefore, I find it plausible that the Asari are hiding their men. Maybe the Hanar are male Asari.

That is just blatant trolling. Mass Effect ranks in science fiction as well as the more reasonable Star Trek original episodes - the ones were things were explained and elaborated on.
Let me put this as clearly as possible to people who are not the OP but are somewhat deceived by him (since I don't believe he actually believes his own nonsense):
If the Asari, the Codex, Mordin and others have made it clear Asari are mono-gendered and all look female, for the next installment to have MALE ASARI would be betrayal. It is far more unnacceptable than Jar Jar Binks or Anakin Skywalker, and THOSE were unacceptable. At least Star Wars never bothered to explain anything at all, for a franchise with a very strong setting in a scientific alternative reality, this would be absolutely adhorrent and Bioware wouldn't do that after the hits they took after the Endings.

[Matchy Pointy]

There is no male asari as its a monogendered species. Also, Smurfette was created by Gargamel.

[Phategod1]

Selene Moonsong wrote...

Based on ME 1, I find the notion of a 'male' Asari a total absurdity.

THIS

[DeathScepter]

Rasofe wrote...

Also,

Sinophile wrote...

Zkyire wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

You know, i had hoped for a semi-intelligent discussion based on biomedical advances and such...

Here?

 Whoever thought up the Asari probably didn't have a degree in biology, this is why franchises such as Mass Effect and Star Wars are more akin to Fantasy than science fiction(let alone science fact). 
 Also, people used to believe that there was no such thing as female dwarves. The dwarves let people believe this to keep people from stealing their women, however they soon realized that non-dwarves weren't really into bearded women. Therefore, I find it plausible that the Asari are hiding their men. Maybe the Hanar are male Asari.

That is just blatant trolling. Mass Effect ranks in science fiction as well as the more reasonable Star Trek original episodes - the ones were things were explained and elaborated on.
Let me put this as clearly as possible to people who are not the OP but are somewhat deceived by him (since I don't believe he actually believes his own nonsense):
If the Asari, the Codex, Mordin and others have made it clear Asari are mono-gendered and all look female, for the next installment to have MALE ASARI would be betrayal. It is far more unnacceptable than Jar Jar Binks or Anakin Skywalker, and THOSE were unacceptable. At least Star Wars never bothered to explain anything at all, for a franchise with a very strong setting in a scientific alternative reality, this would be absolutely adhorrent and Bioware wouldn't do that after the hits they took after the Endings.

They are all female Race that is also Mono gendered. Culturely they don't have a male and female dymanic like other races. So In short, They are all biological female species that are culturally Monogendered that is able to reproduce through Pathogenesis regardless of partners(other asari, species or gender). 

The act of sex itself enables the Asari to make the genetic material that is already inside her body to make an fertilized egg to give birth naturally.

Due to Biotics, Asari can take pathogenesis to the next level and incorpated some of the essence of the given partner. This is why Asari with a Krogan parent doesn't have appearance of a Krogan or the genophage but still having some of the Krogan temperment. Or an Asari with A vorcha Parent is latose intolerant.

[Sinophile]

That is just blatant trolling...Let me put this as clearly as possible to people who are not the OP but are somewhat deceived by him.

You allege that I am a troll, yet you are the only one who nibbled on the proverbial troll bait. You do realize that by calling me out in a post like this instead of simply ignoring the topic, or contacting a mod(at least one of which even posted), that you are prolonging my thread, thus increasing the number of people I am "trolling".

you guys don't really think he's serious, right?

Obviously they do, which is why they posted pics of Keanu Reave's face photshopped onto an Asari. :lol:
It really wasn't my intention to deceive anyone, however my whimsical sense of humor does not always translate well in a textual medium(Very few things are sacred on the internet, although concepts such as sarcasm and facetiousness are lost as text lacks intonation).

Also, Smurfette was created by Gargamel.

I actually took the time to google that after you posted. Smurfette was meant to sow dissention among the Smurf population, as all the male smurfs fought over her. That got me to thinking...While there are no naturally occuring male Asari in the ME universe, could it be possible to genetically engineer one? This gave me an awesome idea for a DLC:
 Shepherd finds a male Asari in some Space Station somewhere. All the women on the ship, regardless of species, find him super sexy and fight over him. Unbeknownst to Shepherd and the gang, Pikachu(the name for the male Asari), was created by the Reapers, or the Illusive Man to make females everywhere fight over this incredibly charismatic creatures, and lose interest in males of their own species.

[Fiddles dee dee]

http://discussions.t...72&d=1348573309

Why. Won't. This. Thread. Stop.

[ObserverStatus]

Selene Moonsong wrote...
Based on ME 1, I find the notion of a 'male' Asari a total absurdity.

Um, yeah, that's what makes this thread fun! 

[Inquisitor Recon]

Reaper Praetorians are male asari.

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

I like Chicken with Sweet Chilli sauce!

[Rasofe]

DeathScepter wrote...

Rasofe wrote...

Also,

Sinophile wrote...

Zkyire wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

You know, i had hoped for a semi-intelligent discussion based on biomedical advances and such...

Here?

 Whoever thought up the Asari probably didn't have a degree in biology, this is why franchises such as Mass Effect and Star Wars are more akin to Fantasy than science fiction(let alone science fact). 
 Also, people used to believe that there was no such thing as female dwarves. The dwarves let people believe this to keep people from stealing their women, however they soon realized that non-dwarves weren't really into bearded women. Therefore, I find it plausible that the Asari are hiding their men. Maybe the Hanar are male Asari.

That is just blatant trolling. Mass Effect ranks in science fiction as well as the more reasonable Star Trek original episodes - the ones were things were explained and elaborated on.
Let me put this as clearly as possible to people who are not the OP but are somewhat deceived by him (since I don't believe he actually believes his own nonsense):
If the Asari, the Codex, Mordin and others have made it clear Asari are mono-gendered and all look female, for the next installment to have MALE ASARI would be betrayal. It is far more unnacceptable than Jar Jar Binks or Anakin Skywalker, and THOSE were unacceptable. At least Star Wars never bothered to explain anything at all, for a franchise with a very strong setting in a scientific alternative reality, this would be absolutely adhorrent and Bioware wouldn't do that after the hits they took after the Endings.

They are all female Race that is also Mono gendered. Culturely they don't have a male and female dymanic like other races. So In short, They are all biological female species that are culturally Monogendered that is able to reproduce through Pathogenesis regardless of partners(other asari, species or gender). 

The act of sex itself enables the Asari to make the genetic material that is already inside her body to make an fertilized egg to give birth naturally.

Due to Biotics, Asari can take pathogenesis to the next level and incorpated some of the essence of the given partner. This is why Asari with a Krogan parent doesn't have appearance of a Krogan or the genophage but still having some of the Krogan temperment. Or an Asari with A vorcha Parent is latose intolerant.

Why are you replying to me!?

To Original Poster:
As you are a troll, so am I a control-freak wise-ass.
Tu Fui Ego Eris

[gisle]

Sinophile wrote...

Have you read the angler fish wikipedia article in the OP? Also, let's use the Star Wars universe as a parallel example. Midichlorians were not mentioned in the first three SW movies, or the twenty or so novels published before 1999. However, Once movie #4 came out.... How come Obi-Wan didn't tell Luke about all this midi-chlorian stuff?

Because the writers haven't thought about it yet? I've not seen SW, so that's the best I can do.

And some Wikipedia article about a fish proves something about asari? I haven't read the article, I admit, but I don't see how it has anything to do with it. It'll have more in common with a human than an alien species. And proving it with another fictional universe?

Let's use Mass Effect as an example, they say they're mono-gendered and reproduce through melding. The binary gender-system is common, but you can't expect the entire galaxy to follow it since the aliens and humans don't really have a common species they evolved from.

[Sinophile]

Because the writers haven't thought about it yet? I've not seen SW, so that's the best I can do.

You most likely made an accurate statement about the writers. I brought up Star Wars as an example of a franchise that is very popular, yet was willing to throw in a weird mechanic despite not mentioning it years before.

And some Wikipedia article about a fish proves something about asari?... ...but I don't see how it has anything to do with it. It'll have more in common with a human than an alien species. And proving it with another fictional universe?

We've yet to meet aliens in real life, therefore all the writers of ME have to go off is our own planet(case in point, Vorcha are compared to Earth Worms in the codex). We've also compared the Asari to many mono-gendered earth animals in this topic. I never claimed that the article proved anything, I only used it to illustrate how extreme sexual dimorphism can get, and that it is possible that male Asari are so different than their female counter-parts that we may not even recognize them as Asari at all.

[CARL_DF90]

The idea of an artificially created Asari was also discussed in that thread I showed you. Quite a few good ideas and how it hypothetically would have both positive and negative effects on Asari society and culture. It may sound absurd to some but interesting concepts and ideas tend to sound absurd until properly and cleverly written/executed. Will Bioware ever take the idea and run with it? Probably not but it's still fun to talk about.

[gisle]

Sinophile wrote...
We've yet to meet aliens in real life, therefore all the writers of ME have to go off is our own planet(case in point, Vorcha are compared to Earth Worms in the codex). We've also compared the Asari to many mono-gendered earth animals in this topic. I never claimed that the article proved anything, I only used it to illustrate how extreme sexual dimorphism can get, and that it is possible that male Asari are so different than their female counter-parts that we may not even recognize them as Asari at all.

The Ardat-Yakshi didn't exist to the narrative until ME2, but still, Bioware would have written it somewhere if there was a sexual dimorphism at all, as they do go into details with deviating reproductive means for the major species. Like the Salarians for instance. So, until BW retcons, they're mono-gendered.

[CARL_DF90]

 That's one of the key points behind the meaning of the word "theory" my friend.

[Tokion]

The Protheans killed them all to create a harem. Then the Asari have to adapt when they vanished 50,000 years ago.

[xxArgyle]

Canonically, I know they aren't possible or probable, but some artist renditions of what a male Asari could look like makes me o-kay with letting them warble my mind.