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[LPPrince]

EVERYONE MENTIONS DARGONS MADOG BUT I HAVEN'T PRAYED IT GOLLY

[LPPrince]

happy_daiz wrote...

Wasn't that a class in Dragon's Dogma? I made my pawn (Iorveth) one, and he kicked some serious arse.

I'd totally love to see that.

Edit: The class was called Magick Archer.

I'm not seeing a bow string here, though...

I'M NOT SEEING IT EITHER

[LPPrince]

Goddamn it that missing bowstring is annoying

[happy_daiz]

Hmm. That might actually be due to the fact that the Magick Bows actually shoot magic, not arrows. Derp. Sorry, I had a total blonde moment there.

The standard bows DO have a string.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 17 janvier 2013 - 03:17 .

[LPPrince]

happy_daiz wrote...

Hmm. That might actually be due to the fact that the magick bows actually shoot magic, not arrows. Derp. Sorry, I had a total blonde moment there.

http://t2.gstatic.co...huMN0by-rArAKGg

happy_daiz wrote...

The standard bows DO have a string.

Thank you baby jesus

Modifié par LPPrince, 17 janvier 2013 - 03:15 .

[LPPrince]

Bioware?

Arcane Archers still need bowstrings.

Don't you dare do that to me, I see you taking notes and grinning evilly.

Don't. You. Dare.

[LPPrince]

Hey look what Leliana has-

[Sable Rhapsody]

BioWare's never been great on the graphics and animation end of things. Two BioWare games to date have made me go "OOOOO" at the looks rather than "eh." Mass Effect 1 for its space vistas, and Jade Empire for its overall art style. And even in those two games, the character animations were a bit dodgy.

[LPPrince]

Hah, I feel you on Mass Effect 1. AND GUESS WHAT MASS EFFECT HAD!?

Bowstrings.

You just couldn't tell because the bows were like, in storage.

[Augoeides]

I must say I had absurd amounts of fun as an Archery Warrior in DA:O, specially when Awakening arrived as I'd almost spec into Spirit Warrior and stack up on Dex and Spirit Damage items resulting in a storm of Magic Missiles. Alas, being a Rogue eliminated the presence of Carver so I refuse to be a Rogue in DA2.

I also must say archery is very in Skyrim and Dragon's Dogma (specially those target seeking Magick Archer arrows ) but not so much in Amalur, I much preferred Chakrams for my ranged fix there, or occasionally scepters though you really needed to invest to make the latter not such a mana drain. Of course all those three play very differently to DA:O and DA2.

I am looking to play a Warrior or Rogue in DA3, and good archery vs good sword and board could be the deciding factor.

EDIT: I did really like Amalur's regenerating but not always endless ammo though.

Modifié par Augoeides, 18 janvier 2013 - 12:18 .

[LPPrince]

Amalur's regenerating ammo pool for arrows was odd, in my opinion.

For those who didn't know how it worked, basically you could shoot as many arrows as you had in your quiver, but if you ran out, there'd be a cooldown time before your arrows "replenished" and you could shoot more. If you didn't exhaust your quiver, after a few seconds it'd refill anyway.

I wasn't a fan of it, and it helped steer me away from archery and onto chakrams in that game.

[LinksOcarina]

You guys do realize that bowstrings in third person would still be unseen, regardless of how they put it in?

[LPPrince]

O_o

Bowstrings can definitely still be seen in third person.

[Yrkoon]

LinksOcarina wrote...

You guys do realize that bowstrings in third person would still be unseen, regardless of how they put it in?

That's... not true.  It would take a wall of text a mile long  if we were to list  every  3rd person game that had bows with functional, visible, animated  bowstrings.

[TEWR]

LinksOcarina wrote...

You guys do realize that bowstrings in third person would still be unseen, regardless of how they put it in?

Final Fantasy XII did it, and the perspective in that game is the same as DA's.

[Fandabydastic]

I just finished my 438247th DA:O run as an archer and I do love it. In fact, I play the whole game as an archer just to get to Denerim and be able to pick off grunts without doing that dodgy combat run around half the district.
Yet to do it in DA2, that's for my next run which I'll start like.. whenever.

BUT

I do archery in rl and tbh I'd like... less realism. Foshizzle.

I like the AOE archery move. As the MC I'm the only one I trust to do anything useful, despite a lovely set of tactics and I'd never trust my mage to AOE after a nasty experience with Wynne sending me to my ass seventy times with earthquake. So yes... unrealistic but I wants AOE.

I would also adore being able to run while firing. Much like Leliana does in the Urn of Sacred Ashes. Even if it was a sustained ability only. I'd activate the **** out of it.

Be nice for a mage to be able to elementalise (yes word) the arrows. But I'm not picky on that. AOE and movement would be sweet though. Oh and bowstrings I suppose, if we're gonna be picky.

And I still want an epic looking bow not just wooden and artsy looking. And if it could shoot rainbows I'd appreciate it. Cheers guys.

[LPPrince]

Skyrim has awesome looking bows. I'd like Dragon Age to have vastly different bow appearances, like these-

[LPPrince]

Fandabydastic wrote...

I just finished my 438247th DA:O run as an archer and I do love it. In fact, I play the whole game as an archer just to get to Denerim and be able to pick off grunts without doing that dodgy combat run around half the district.
Yet to do it in DA2, that's for my next run which I'll start like.. whenever.

BUT

I do archery in rl and tbh I'd like... less realism. Foshizzle.

I like the AOE archery move. As the MC I'm the only one I trust to do anything useful, despite a lovely set of tactics and I'd never trust my mage to AOE after a nasty experience with Wynne sending me to my ass seventy times with earthquake. So yes... unrealistic but I wants AOE.

I would also adore being able to run while firing. Much like Leliana does in the Urn of Sacred Ashes. Even if it was a sustained ability only. I'd activate the **** out of it.

Be nice for a mage to be able to elementalise (yes word) the arrows. But I'm not picky on that. AOE and movement would be sweet though. Oh and bowstrings I suppose, if we're gonna be picky.

And I still want an epic looking bow not just wooden and artsy looking. And if it could shoot rainbows I'd appreciate it. Cheers guys.

Well there's no way they would do completely realistic archery, so we don't have to worry about that.

As far as shooting while moving, as long as its not something ridiculous like shooting at a full sprint. Or if it did happen at that speed, I hope it wasn't very accurate. Some movement should be allowed, sure.

[Sylvanpyxie]

Be nice for a mage to be able to elementalise (yes word) the arrows.

And a great word it is.

This actually really bothered me though. The exclusion of Fire/Frost/Poison/Magical Rainbow Arrows was a kick in the teeth that I truly resented, and when I realised the Mage's ability to elementalise everyone else's weapons left my arrows completely unaffected, it was an even bigger kick to the noggin.

Considering our ability damage was bordering on pathetic and our only real source of damage output was from auto-attack, which pulled us enough aggro that we constantly needed to utilise our stealth and threat reduction abilities, it would have been nice to have the added bonus of magical elementalization.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 18 janvier 2013 - 03:30 .

[LPPrince]

Well, I feel that as rogues we should be able to add certain effects to our broadheads ourselves, like being able to shoot flaming arrows, poison tipped arrows, explosive arrows(really I think explosive arrows should be a single-shot ability that's pretty powerful and does AoE damage once it connects), etc etc.

[Sylvanpyxie]

I feel that as rogues we should be able to add certain effects to our broadheads ourselves

I'm not against the addition of Rogue specific combat abilities such as a single shot Flaming Arrow that deals additional damage over time, or an area of effect explosive arrow that deals heavy AoE damage. But a sustained ability that forces me to reserve a portion of my stamina in order to gain an effect that everyone else gets from a single Mage aura would be horribly unfair.

Archers should not be the only physical damage class forced to reserve their own resources to sustain a persistent elemental "on hit" damage bonus, not when melee fighters are able to utilise the aura of a single Mage.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 18 janvier 2013 - 03:47 .

[LPPrince]

I don't think the type of broadheads/effect on our broadheads we use should affect our stamina at all.

[TEWR]

Be nice for a mage to be able to elementalise (yes word) the arrows.

Ostagar cutscene had bows that did just that. Plus, there are the fire arrows, ice arrows, and the like.

To an extent, the Elemental Weapons skill from DAII did just that as well.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 18 janvier 2013 - 04:24 .

[Sylvanpyxie]

I don't think the type of broadheads/effect on our broadheads we use should affect our stamina at all.

Well they certainly aren't going to make something like a passive ability, additional elemental damage at our beck and call with no reserve drain on our stamina? It wouldn't happen.

I doubt they would look for a more effective way of balancing the damage bonus - It's far more likely they would simply make it a sustained ability, costing archers a portion of their stamina pool in order to accommodate the additional damage.

So unless you have any ideas as to how they could possibly balance it without the sustained drain on our stamina, then I would much appreciate the Mage Aura branching out to archers.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 18 janvier 2013 - 03:54 .