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Would anyone else be interested in ME3MP becoming its own game?


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SSuicideKKing666 wrote...

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Allow me to rephrase.

I don't want it to become just another pvp deathmatch.  I enjoy it for what it is:  Players working together to survive against hordes of AI, with objectives.

I want a larger version of that, and I'm okay with pvp so long as it is restricted to people playing as members of the AI horde.

But if it were turned into just another team deathmatch game, then there's no way in hell I would buy it.

Not to mention

1)  There'd be too many issues with converting it to PVP.  The entire game would need to be reworked from the ground up.
2)  Squad vs hordes of ai still fits, thematically.  Its the Reaper forces that the military is struggling to fight against.  There's literally no reason for squaddies to be fighting against each other though.


There are plenty of reasons within the games lore for players to be pitted against each other in a 3v3 arena setting.  This game is suppossed to be a squad based shooter in a mostly military setting, what does the military do more then anything else?  Train.  There was an entire DLC in the original Mass Effect based on this idea.  Actually I find it rather funny that the multiplayer has done so well when you take into account that that very DLC is basicly the same as the multiplayer and was bashed relentlessly by the fans and is considered by many to be the worst DLC in the entire series.  I'm talking about the Pinnical Station DLC if you didn't realize. 

I though I was very clear about the type of PVP I was refering to, arena teams, not TDM.  Those are very different and I agree that TDM wouldn't work, not because it doesn't fit the theme, but because there would be too much going on at one time to mount any defence or cogent stratagy.  The best example I can give would be arenas in World of Warcraft, which in each of its brackets, is generally stable, until balance changes and then it restablizes.  In WoW's arena players have to build a team that can adapt to changing situations and deal with different types of threats, building compositions that can do this effectivly is the core element to the arena in WoW.  That would be the core concept for this PvP.  With small teams and no respawning until the game is done, players would be forced to find a composition that can win against a wide varriety of threats.  With the wide assortment of abilities available in the current game you could already put a team together for multiple purpose built playstyles. 

Like I said before most people only see what the game does now, but the game has changed so much from one title to the next that all that does is blind you to what could be.  The first ME has a far better weapon and armor system that could be used as a simple starting point, the power system would need to change, but that has changed so much the only thing that is the same from the first game is the name of some of the powers, so what does it matter if they change it again?  As for each power, some would need work, most would probably be fine as they are.
I've thought and disscussed this topic at length, there is nothing that couldn't be fixed to make a fast paced, tactical, squad vs squad game mode.


If it were an optional side mode then fine, whatever.

But I, for one, have literally zero interest in buying a mass effect game for pvp.  I have ENOUGH pvp games.  I wanna buy a mass effect game, to fight enemy armies with my friends.

Again, if its just a pvp game....I'm probably not gonna buy it.

However, I do agree on using the original Mass Effects weapons and armor, though not those exact things.

1)  Good for character customization
2)  Bad though, since everyone would eventually settle on just "the best" weapons and armor.

so rather than porting them straight from ME, use the concept to have each kind of gun and armor suit a different role, like they do in ME3MP.

...now that I think about it, really, just get armor customization in there.  We already have the weapons down fine, barring some damage buffs and nerfs needed here and there tokeep things from getting useless or outclassing everything else.

Modifié par Silvair, 14 janvier 2013 - 10:51 .


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I really like MP, but SP will always take precedence for me. I don't think an MP game without SP would interest me, even though I haven't played SP in months.

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No. Next question.

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Shinobu wrote...

I really like MP, but SP will always take precedence for me. I don't think an MP game without SP would interest me, even though I haven't played SP in months.


Same here for me .. the worst part .. i didnt even finish ME3 SP ..i just didnt want the mass effect legacy to end in my mind :P ...but there are a few people who kinda killed the SP feelings by showering vids and spoilers.

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playfarcry wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

I really like MP, but SP will always take precedence for me. I don't think an MP game without SP would interest me, even though I haven't played SP in months.


Same here for me .. the worst part .. i didnt even finish ME3 SP ..i just didnt want the mass effect legacy to end in my mind :P ...but there are a few people who kinda killed the SP feelings by showering vids and spoilers.


The vids were fake..don't worry :P

Modifié par banshees_heart, 15 janvier 2013 - 11:57 .


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banshees_heart wrote...

playfarcry wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

I really like MP, but SP will always take precedence for me. I don't think an MP game without SP would interest me, even though I haven't played SP in months.


Same here for me .. the worst part .. i didnt even finish ME3 SP ..i just didnt want the mass effect legacy to end in my mind :P ...but there are a few people who kinda killed the SP feelings by showering vids and spoilers.


The vids were fake..don't worry :P


no they werent fake..it looked pretty real ones... and it was mostly done by Mr. Punk

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playfarcry wrote...

banshees_heart wrote...

playfarcry wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

I really like MP, but SP will always take precedence for me. I don't think an MP game without SP would interest me, even though I haven't played SP in months.


Same here for me .. the worst part .. i didnt even finish ME3 SP ..i just didnt want the mass effect legacy to end in my mind :P ...but there are a few people who kinda killed the SP feelings by showering vids and spoilers.


The vids were fake..don't worry :P


no they werent fake..it looked pretty real ones... and it was mostly done by Mr. Punk


oh..so me and Mr. Punk are partner in crime now..lolzz

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*trollface*


What you and banshee_heart did deserves capital punishment ...you have murdered some part of me :sick:

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Yes prease

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I'd be down for 3 squads of council races during an invasion of the Yahg homeworld.

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I'd be down for 3 squads of council races during an invasion of the Yahg homeworld.


I'm pretty sure they'd get wrecked by the Yahg.  It'd be like Jurassic Park in space.  And if the TRex had opposable thumbs.

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Sounds good.
updates should be more unlockables etc

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I'd like a different game set in me3 universe that includes pvp possibly with no RNG. they could also market a dedicated coop game like this for me4 thaqt includes lots of RNG grinding for 100% pve lovers

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Silvair wrote...
Its the Reaper forces that the military is struggling to fight against.  There's literally no reason for squaddies to be fighting against each other though.


1) You don't know what ME4 is going to be about, and if a separate multiplayer-only game were released, it'd likely be tied into it.
2) Coming up with reasons for heavily-armed groups of folk who don't trust each other to fight isn't exactly a Faulknerian writing challenge.

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Kushiel42 wrote...

1) You don't know what ME4 is going to be about, and if a separate multiplayer-only game were released, it'd likely be tied into it.
2) Coming up with reasons for heavily-armed groups of folk who don't trust each other to fight isn't exactly a Faulknerian writing challenge.


Doesn't even need to be large groups.

If it is set prior to Mass Effect you have mercenary groups of every stripe. The proxy war in the Skyllian Verge.

Call it Mass Effect: Mercenaries. Leaves it open to any era/location/plot. Expandable, expansion-pack-able, and DLC-able to the limits of its platforms hardware and the limits imposed by the gurdians of content (MS, Sony review boards).

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Dorje Sylas wrote...

Kushiel42 wrote...

1) You don't know what ME4 is going to be about, and if a separate multiplayer-only game were released, it'd likely be tied into it.
2) Coming up with reasons for heavily-armed groups of folk who don't trust each other to fight isn't exactly a Faulknerian writing challenge.


Doesn't even need to be large groups.

If it is set prior to Mass Effect you have mercenary groups of every stripe. The proxy war in the Skyllian Verge.

Call it Mass Effect: Mercenaries. Leaves it open to any era/location/plot. Expandable, expansion-pack-able, and DLC-able to the limits of its platforms hardware and the limits imposed by the gurdians of content (MS, Sony review boards).


and COMPLETELY broken since the mass effect powers would have to be overhauled to the point they don't even resemble the originals anymore to be otherwise lol.

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It's called Mass Effect 4

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No, thank you.

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For ME3's MP, no. But for ME4's MP it would be more feasible on-paper due to its engine and most likely because ME4 might also end up on the next-generation consoles (PS4 and the next XBOX). There's also of course the question of "would it actually work", I.E. would people actually like that? That's regardless of the engine.

Well I don't know really, right now we know ME3's MP as it is simply because it's new. It's the first MP aspect we've seen out of a Mass Effect game. I'm sure that over the years it'll be milked dry and will end up on all sorts of "new MP land" like larger maps, 12+ players (think Team Fortress 2 kinda team sizes and map sizes) and even vehicles and more varied terrain (rather than just flat terrain for infantry and just one or two map layers to add some stairs and ladders).

I do like ME3's MP as is, but admitelly ME4's MP could be much bigger in terms of content, features and perhaps actual game-play (I.E. more players at once, more enemies on-screen, bigger maps, more complex designs, etc).

Modifié par Lyrandori, 03 février 2013 - 04:33 .


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No. SP comes first and will always be the top priority to me. SP will decide whether I will buy the next Mass Effect game or not. No SP? Sorry, no business.

And why are people necroing such kind of threads?

Modifié par robarcool, 03 février 2013 - 04:36 .


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I love MP, but I'd only buy a game that had SP with MP, not MP alone.

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God no not like COD, Ive been a admin on a populated COD server since 4 launched and oversaw hosting and management of MW3 and MW2 servers, I dont want ME to become COD, take a few years to make a game but make it a awesome one, ME3 is awesome cuz of its story, the characters and universe it is set in. Bioware should stick to what it does best, MP is a nice feature that worked with ME3 pretty well, and is a lot of fun but it shouldnt be the series new direction

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GallowsPole wrote...

I'd rather have an MMO type platform. I think the Mass Effect universe was tailor made for it. PvE gets old fast and this game can never be balanced for PvP, at least with powers. And to be frank, I wouldn't buy it if it was a pure weapon based shooter.


How would u rather have a MMO type platform if u just said that PVE gets old fast and it isnt balanced for PVP....
On a side note ME series have a huge mmo potential, and I wouldnt mind seeing it, however i hope they dont pull a KOTOR on us with SWTOR

That in mind, shep's story is pretty well wraped in so a MMO would be a logical step. On the other hand I wouldn't want to sacrifice a full fledged sequel in favour of a MMO, not to mention That if they pull the BS regional restrictions and poor global support that TOR had myself, and a lot of gamers would be hella pissed...

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This would be cool, keep the current maps for small missions, and have several large battlegrounds for enormous fights. Maybe they would finally allow us to kill a reaper.