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[Han Shot First]

I liked that Ashley or Kaidan were a little bit suspicious of Shepard at the start. That being said however, I also do think it was a little overblown. It dragged on for longer than it should have and wasn't fully resolved until the coup.

Also I think Bioware missed a great oppurtunity to have your Collector Base decision matter. The Virmire Survivor should have been more distrustful of you if you decided to hand it to TIM (basically reacting as they do in the game), and coming to trust you sooner (Mars) if you destroyed it.

[Made Nightwing]

At bit of ham handed writing by BioWare, maybe, but I found it added some actual reality to a plot that could be childishly simple at times. It brought up real concerns, I found myself actually looking at Shepard's decisions and wondering where they would lead me. It caused me to slow down a bit instead of just zapping off down the paragon path, considering where a decision would lead me. Consequently I enjoyed the game quite a bit more.

[CynicalShep]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

I understand why people found it annoying that the VS didn't completely trust Shepard for a while. But at the same I gotta wonder why they were the only ones doing it.

Let's be honest and accept one thing for a moment. If TIM and Miranda did infact install a control chip in Shepard to turn him into a sleeper agent, he would've fooled everybody. Everyone in ME2 was so quick and willing to trust Shepard. In fact they didn't even bring it up really. Then in ME3 if TIM had "activated" Shepard to go on a shooting spree in The Normandy, how many people would he have killed? Or what if TIM decided to do it during the final conversation with him and Anderson? The only loose end for TIM would be Miranda, and he would have no qualms about having Shepard kill her during the Suicide Mission.

The rational and smart thing to have done was for them at some point to take a look at Shepard's implants and make sure there's nothing concerning that Cerberus installed in him. Hell if I was Shepard, I would want to undergo this inspection. In my eyes, it was very professional and smart for Ashley and Kaiden to not fully trust him yet.


Now in this case they happened to be wrong, and Shepard was fine, but it kinda makes you wonder what if?

Pretty sure Chakwas does a full scan, and then tells you that "you're the picture of health". Now TIM would probably do a good job at hiding the chip but I still don't think a full medical scan would miss it. I completely agree that they should've been suspicios or at least cautious but the way they behaved and the context made the VS sound like a pissed off teenager. The idea makes sense but the writers took it too far. If Shepard knew he's a sleeper agent he would've never told him/her. If he was a sleeper agent and didn't know it the dialogue was pointless. If he wasn't a sleeper agent VS did more harm than good. Either way you look at it the constant nagging doesn't make any sense

Modifié par CynicalShep, 14 janvier 2013 - 05:56 .

[kalasaurus]

Han Shot First wrote...

Also I think Bioware missed a great oppurtunity to have your Collector Base decision matter. The Virmire Survivor should have been more distrustful of you if you decided to hand it to TIM (basically reacting as they do in the game), and coming to trust you sooner (Mars) if you destroyed it.

Agreed.  Even Vega brings up Shepard destroying the Base after the first time the VS asks about Shep and Cerberus.  I think blowing up the Base should be evidence enough.

[garrusfan1]

i agree they should be suspicious and i love how people complain about them but have no problem with javik basically critizizing shepard for every paragon desicion and says you should basically kill everything or at least that is how it sounds.

[thehomeworld]

I blame the reaper tech inside shep that got all of the crewmen to insta trust him/her then EDI's reaper tech just kept that up because no one after getting on the ship leaves unless in a box no matter what shep does or says to them they're loyal even if you don't do any of their missions and they're disgruntled.

I'm actually more surprised that by 3 shep is a walking liability and no one cares. His reaper tech got tuned into the enemy in Arrival and no one cares, He was rebuilt by TIM who is now a confirmed reaper agent yet no one cares, Shep can be hacked he has witnesses and no one cares, Shep has reaper tech inside him and code yet still no one even blinks. At ANY POINT shep could've been hacked to comply with the enemy or like OP said if he was a reaper sleeper agent he could've at anypoint been turned on to fullfill his true duty. Even shep doesn't care about the events in Arrival or Overlord were he knows he has weaknesses that could undermined the whole operation that he's the leader of.

[AlexMBrennan]

If I had to venture a guess, I'd say that people are more annoyed by this because these questionable actions were forced on them in ME2.
If anything, I wouldn't have been surprised to find that they had implanted Shepard with a chip given how trusting Shepard is towards terrorists wearing full regalia pointing guns at him (Miranda).

But yeah, people tend to only look at characters very superficially - e.g. Samara as Paladin-in-space... Ignoring the fact that she would have been perfectly happy to kill dozens of police officers because her "holy book" said so.