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Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut – A Disappointed Fan Responds (Article)


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7isMagic

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Here's something I just happened upon that I feel compelled to share with my fellow devoted ME fans - in case you may have missed this (just as I did) when it was originally posted at the end of June.  (It's 6 months after the fact, I know, but it is a superb article, a worthy read for folks who may be interested.)

http://whatculture.c...an-responds.php

If I might share herein a few extraordinary quotes from the 5-part article that blew me away (that especially warrant consideration and deliberation):

"...the only way life perpetuates in this narrative is through an act of fear and moral compromise.  Life will go on, but the standard of that life is proved irrelevant.  The principles upon which it is now founded are genocide, domination, or the arrogance of compelled mutation.  Three games, all leading up to a final thesis of moral futility.
 
And to add the final insult, it all still gets credited to ‘The Shepard’, even though the thought of such an eventuality literally killed her."

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"And so, if Star Trek is about hope, and Firefly about defiance, and Star Wars is about the balance of good and evil (and infuriatingly stilted dialogue), and Battlestar Galactica is about cycles of self-destruction, and our capacity to alter that inevitability, then in its final moments Mass Effect reveals itself to be wholly about compromise.  What are you willing to sacrifice in order to succeed?  For some that’s everything.
 
How far will you compromise those ‘ideals’ that pushed you along the whole time?  Or do you even need to sacrifice your beliefs at all?  Because if you never saw Synthetics as people, then gravy.  Not only does the game force this compromise upon you for victory, but it only rewards you for making a choice that gives you over to your enemy’s point of view.
 
But what I don’t understand, what even now fills me with bewilderment and genuine shock, is why, if the whole theme was compromise, did they keep insisting that the central thrust of the game was ‘hope’.  Liara even throws the term out to future generations in the opening of her holo-log in the ‘Refuse’ ending.  We offer you hope.
 
…No we don’t.  We hoped and failed, remember?  We didn’t do what apparently needed to be done.
 
And the word hope is not just a trump card that you can slap own amidst a cavalcade of despair to pretty up the carnage.  As silver linings go it’s pretty flimsy.  Just four little letters, more a puff of air than a declaration.  It has to be attached to something.  There has to be something to hope for.
 
So why on the whole way to those final choices was everyone blathering about hope?  I mean, all the ‘I’ll-see-you-after-this-is-all-overs’ were heartbreaking enough, knowing what was to come, but to then have everyone praising Shepard for sticking to her beliefs, a litany of platitudes about how magnificent it was that she never sacrificed what defined her, how that fortitude was a beacon for the peoples of the galaxy.  And what for?  To be called an abject failure for continuing to stick to those beliefs when it counted most?"

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(Edited to correct formatting)
 

Modifié par 7isMagic, 13 janvier 2013 - 09:29 .


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Iakus

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QFT

Brilliant, simply brilliant.

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RavenEyry

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Who needs a consistent theme when you have art for the sake of art?

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Steelcan

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To be perfectly honest I don't care for the central themes to ME. There's your standard, hope, diversity overcoming any challenge, friendship, etc...

I'm actually disappointed that themes such as ambition and ruthlessness are portrayed negatively

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CronoDragoon

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This is a fair criticism of a Paragon Destroy Shepard (especially one that does peace on Rannoch), but doesn't really apply to the others. Moreover, the premises on which it bases its conclusion are questionable: is the destruction of synthetics in Destroy genocide or unfortunate collateral damage? Is Control about domination or the prevention of harm to the galaxy of the sort that exists in Destroy? Isn't Control just an extension of the type of god-like status Shepard has gradually assumed during the course of his ME journey?

The argument begins with a negative viewpoint of the endings, and then concludes negatively, which is something of a tautology.

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GreyLycanTrope

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Good man that drayfish.

Steelcan wrote...

To be perfectly honest I don't care for the central themes to ME. There's your standard, hope, diversity overcoming any challenge, friendship, etc...

I'm actually disappointed that themes such as ambition and ruthlessness are portrayed negatively

Both should have had a applicable story arch in this, the ruthless pragmatist and the hopeful idealist. That was largely the appeal of these games for me.

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The very best description I have yet come across, to describe my own feelings!

No way I could ever have put it down so well! Thanks for finding this and posting it!

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spirosz

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And I bet this thread will sadly be locked with "thanks for your opinion"

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davishepard

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"Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer."
/thread

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CroGamer002

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Good article.

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CronoDragoon

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davishepard wrote...

"Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer."
/thread


Spoken from a true Renegade character, so you could see how this would be unsatisfactory for Paragons.

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Knubbsal

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All that crap about hope. You can hope all you want for a fifth option, but the universe gave you four. I'm not saying the ending was perfect, but there's no reason there should've been a happy ending at all. Besides, the purpose of the extended cut was not to give you a happy ending, but to explain the current endings more (and they even threw in refusal for the cynics). For that, the extended cut was fine.

And yeah, sometimes characters make weird choices. But if all characters were all-knowing and completely reasonable, we wouldn't have very interesting stories.

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What an excellent article it's pretty much spot on how I felt. I'm going to eat some ice cream now.

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This article was by the same person who made the long-running thread "All were thematically revolting". While I don't agree with the main point that the need to compromise our morality makes this a bad ending for the story, the thread has a lot of very intelligent, in-depth debate. I recommend an extended read.

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Iakus

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davishepard wrote...

"Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer."
/thread


"We start killing our friends and war turns into murder"

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Belisarius25

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Ieldra2 wrote...

This article was by the same person who made the long-running thread "All were thematically revolting". While I don't agree with the main point that the need to compromise our morality makes this a bad ending for the story, the thread has a lot of very intelligent, in-depth debate. I recommend an extended read.


I had no idea drayfish was a professor, but that explains their eloquence

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Steelcan wrote...

To be perfectly honest I don't care for the central themes to ME. There's your standard, hope, diversity overcoming any challenge, friendship, etc...

I'm actually disappointed that themes such as ambition and ruthlessness are portrayed negatively

Yes

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Iakus

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Drayfish is a genius and Bioware should read his/her posts carefully.

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BD Manchild

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I always loved drayfish's posts and articles; he always managed to sum up my thoughts on the ending far better and much more eloquently than I possibly could. I often wonder what he's doing these days.

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BD Manchild wrote...

I always loved drayfish's posts and articles; he always managed to sum up my thoughts on the ending far better and much more eloquently than I possibly could.


My sentiments exactly. His articles are always entertaining and well written, and I usually find myself agreeing with almost every point.

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clarkusdarkus

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He has a candid ability to speak how many of us feel, always enjoy reading what drayfish has to say, hope he remains an active user.

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TheRealJayDee

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Eryri wrote...

BD Manchild wrote...

I always loved drayfish's posts and articles; he always managed to sum up my thoughts on the ending far better and much more eloquently than I possibly could.


My sentiments exactly. His articles are always entertaining and well written, and I usually find myself agreeing with almost every point.


Yeah, drayfish is a prime example of a fan providing well thought out and well presented criticism. What he writes has substance and style, and should be read by everyone who accuses those critical of ME3 to be hating just for the sake of hating. And should not only be read carefully by Bioware, but also given a response - this isn't something that should be filed away under "thank you for your feedback" and never be spoken of again.

Modifié par TheRealJayDee, 14 janvier 2013 - 12:24 .


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Hope?

What hope was their for the Rachni when you drowned them in acid?

What hope was there for the Krogans when Eve died and you sabotaged the cure?

Modifié par Robosexual, 14 janvier 2013 - 12:31 .


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And what hope is there for the future of this once outstanding IP if people continue to give cover to the mad work of those wretched endings? Drayfish nails it as per, but doesn't he always?

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Bro, screw the Geth. Sorry about EDI and all, but I want to DESTROY the Reapers, thats the whole god damn point! Also, I want to SURVIVE! and see my LI again, have a drink with my bro Garrus, and make fun of Javik.