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[Locutus_of_BORG]

Artistic. Integrity.

Lots of speculations!!!

[Postman778]

TheTrueObelus wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

We have said this many times, we are done with the ending of Mass Effect. While there is still DLC to come (I cannot go into details yet) we will not be making any "ending" DLC.

You may think you're done with the ending but you're not. It will haunt the company for as long as it produces Mass Effect games.

I expect it will haunt the company as long as it produces games...
There are a lot of examples from the industry where companies suffered from wrong decisions (Nokia, Opel etc.) and a lot of them are struggeling to survive

Dragoonlordz wrote...

You will have hard time doing such when ME4 comes out and you will be required to register your copy to talk in the ME4 section, the ME3 section will fade and end up as quiet and empty as DAO or ME1 sections are now. So huff and puff to your hearts content but pretty sure you will need to buy ME4 to continue being relevant or haunt them as it were atleast as far as this social network is concerned.

So you have to register your ME4 copy to talk about a game? I expect the forum will be only settled by IGN Members whose character will be ingame

[Mr. Gogeta34]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Integrity.

Of the artistic persuasion.

[WolfyZA]

People are still going on about this??? Guys its almost ayear later... Let it go, dont get me wrong I want a DECENT ending just as much as the next HARDCORE fan but , if we havent gotten it by now.. Then we're never going to get it!

[78stonewobble]

To be honest. I partially agree with this guy:

www.youtube.com/watch

Though I still think that eg. synthesis is rather poorly explained (it is not a thing I can comprehend?)?
Are all people/machines now mentally connected?
Do they have a new universal magical understanding of eachother?
If not, how will it prevent eg. war or slavings or whatever "teh evulz"?
Can these new artificial/biological beings invent purely artificial beings again?
Wouldn't this just possibly just start the whole thing again? 

But to quote from the video:
"The crucible and the catalyst do not arise naturally from the events of the story. There is no reason for their existance that doesn't require either a hand wave or a last minute backstory dump.

And because of that I'm about to do, what may be the most important thing I've ever arbitrarily granted myself the authority to do. 

I'm going to free you from this ending. Yes you, you on youtube, right now. I'm going to set you free.  

*insert happy/elevator music*

Because the existance of the catalyst and the crucible are based on a contrivance, they have no narrative legitimacy. You are free to ignore them and substitute your own (events?) in their place and your version will be every last bit as valid as the official one, if not more so. So make up your own ending. You have the power. It's over.

You're free..."




So my head cannon ending is a variation on the high ems destroy ending. I view starchild as a last ditch attempt by the reapers to prevent shepard from destroying them by trying to lie and goad him into making the wrong random pushing of buttons on a suped up nuclear reactor.

If that is an overly happy ending I don't know. I don't think so. Considering all the damage, casualties caused, in the universe and the normandy over the series.



However I certainly don't think that dark or edgy in any way by itself makes something smart or intelligent. Meaning that me3 could have had the darkest  and most edgy in the history of art, but if it kept the catalyst, the ending would still be an unintelligent pop piece...

Throughout the trilogy you, as a player, had the chance to create a rather dark story. Renegade interrupts and sacrificing people left and right. You could even let the reapers win, if you were suitable nihilistic.

You also had the choice to make for relatively happy storyline. Overcoming adversity, facing evil and the horrors of war and yet find something good in life.

The endings don't have quite the same spand. They narrowed the happy / sad to a very narrow band where it should have continued, imho, along the same lines as most of the other options we had.

[Xenite]

Wonder how many millions they have lost out on by hosing us with that ending. I own every single piece of DLC for Origins, DA2 and ME1&2. Havn't bought a single DLC for ME3 and I know I'm not the only one.

[WolfyZA]

^^^^ You can say that again...

[78stonewobble]

Xenite wrote...

Wonder how many millions they have lost out on by hosing us with that ending. I own every single piece of DLC for Origins, DA2 and ME1&2. Havn't bought a single DLC for ME3 and I know I'm not the only one.

For me3 I bought most of it except for the last one.

I've been trying to convince myself to play through it again, but I've given up on, I think, 5 attempts now.

I am enjoying the multiplayer though.

PS: For comparison I do think I've played through me2 5 full times now and me1 twice.

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 16 janvier 2013 - 11:38 .

[Daniel_N7]

78stonewobble wrote...

Xenite wrote...

Wonder how many millions they have lost out on by hosing us with that ending. I own every single piece of DLC for Origins, DA2 and ME1&2. Havn't bought a single DLC for ME3 and I know I'm not the only one.

For me3 I bought most of it except for the last one.

I've been trying to convince myself to play through it again, but I've given up on, I think, 5 attempts now.

I am enjoying the multiplayer though.

My situation is very similar. I have every ME1 and ME2 DLCs, including the weapon and alternate appearance packs.
I've only finished ME3 once (including From Ashes) before the EC. I've downloaded the EC, Leviathan and the alternate appearance pack (1). But I haven't had the energy to replay it entirely. And I didn't feel motivated to buy Omega, because I'm simply lingering to the hope that BioWare will release an ending-related DLC of some sort. If that comes, I'll buy Omega and watever DLCs BioWare decides to do next. If not, although I love the MEU, I think my interest is fading and I'm moving on.

[cuzsal]

Xenite wrote...

Wonder how many millions they have lost out on by hosing us with that ending. I own every single piece of DLC for Origins, DA2 and ME1&2. Havn't bought a single DLC for ME3 and I know I'm not the only one.

same here

looking forward to this new dlc they are working on, but to be honest I think it will just be somthing stand alone story wise. probly wont buy it or any other dlc, cd projekt red has become my new fav dev, hope they do not go they way bioware has

[78stonewobble]

Daniel_N7 wrote...
My situation is very similar. I have every ME1 and ME2 DLCs, including the weapon and alternate appearance packs.
I've only finished ME3 once (including From Ashes) before the EC. I've downloaded the EC, Leviathan and the alternate appearance pack (1). But I haven't had the energy to replay it entirely. And I didn't feel motivated to buy Omega, because I'm simply lingering to the hope that BioWare will release an ending-related DLC of some sort. If that comes, I'll buy Omega and watever DLCs BioWare decides to do next. If not, although I love the MEU, I think my interest is fading and I'm moving on.

Most of all it's sad I think. The game series did so many things right and the company deserved to be rewarded economically for it.

But right now I'm gone from: "Shut up and take my money!" to...  ... "Yeah... I'm gonna need independent reviews from now on."

[Archonsg]

Chris Priestly wrote...

We have said this many times, we are done with the ending of Mass Effect. While there is still DLC to come (I cannot go into details yet) we will not be making any "ending" DLC.

That is sad to hear.
Sadder still, because at one point and at this moment, I would buy an alternative ending DLC just so that I can have a complete series that I can come back to again.

In any case, thank you Bioware for the past, for ME1, 2, and a good part of 3.

I tried to look past the ending, even re-installing ME1 with Pinnacle Station and Bring Down the Sky DLCs, ME2 with all story DLCs recently (less then 2 weeks ago) games which I loved and played to heck, in hopes to rekindle the love and excitement, but unfortunately I only got to the character creation screen when a wave of depression hit, knowing just what is in store for my character.

I cannot speak for others but sadly this whole incident has unfortunately colored my ability to enjoy games that I previously did.

It has and will color my purchase and recommendation decisions for any future Bioware productcs.

[Deadpool9]

Xellith wrote...

I think you would have more impact if you actually posted this on http://blog.bioware.com/ as an official statement.  A lot of people think you are actually out of the loop of what is actually going on in the development team.

So once again.  Post it on the blog as a long/short statement. 

Something like: 

"There have been numerous threads on the Bioware Social Network, and the Internet, asking for alternate ending DLC/Expansion content.  There will NOT now nor EVER be such content produced by Bioware for Mass Effect 3.  There are no plans and NEVER will be plans to create such content.  This means NO DLC set AFTER the catalyst segment on the citadel...

Good stuff, so far.

Xellith wrote...
...where you pick your Red Green or Blue choice".

And here's where you should've taken that left turn at Albuquerque.

[ME859]

Xenite wrote...

Wonder how many millions they have lost out on by hosing us with that ending. I own every single piece of DLC for Origins, DA2 and ME1&2. Havn't bought a single DLC for ME3 and I know I'm not the only one.

i counted at least $47 from me. Could easily been as much as $72 if not more.  Basically if I was happy with me3 I would have bought arrival, leviathan, and Omega for PC as well as ME1 for PS3. It's also possible I would have bought Levi and omega for PS3 as well.  If you wanted to go further you could throw in me having no confidence and or desire to buy Dead Space 3 but their fate was sealed when they started talking about the COD crowd as their target audience

It's also very likely you could throw in another 15 or 20 loss sale for me if the citadel DLC does nothing to fix the ending which it likely won't 

Granted that wont make or break them but i doubt I'm the only one

Modifié par ME859, 16 janvier 2013 - 03:21 .

[Fingertrip]

Xenite wrote...

Wonder how many millions they have lost out on by hosing us with that ending. I own every single piece of DLC for Origins, DA2 and ME1&2. Havn't bought a single DLC for ME3 and I know I'm not the only one.

Let's all ignore the Multiplayer bit where you can purchase packs for real money, and the fact that ME3 sold very well.

You're part of the minority, they haven't lost a dime. Hater, lol.

[TheTrueObelus]

Fingertrip wrote...

Xenite wrote...

Wonder how many millions they have lost out on by hosing us with that ending. I own every single piece of DLC for Origins, DA2 and ME1&2. Havn't bought a single DLC for ME3 and I know I'm not the only one.

Let's all ignore the Multiplayer bit where you can purchase packs for real money, and the fact that ME3 sold very well.

You're part of the minority, they haven't lost a dime. Hater, lol.

Why would you ever spend a dime on multiplayer? You get everything for free just by playing it.

As to ME3 sales I'm sure they were great but that was before people got to the end. We're talking about sales of ME DLCs after people had finished the game. We're talking about the sale of future ME games. That's where the money is going to be lost.

[Tiina]

Oh come on people! just let it be already <_<
There is no point talk about this anymore...

[crimzontearz]

SaTima-78 wrote...

Oh come on people! just let it be already <_<
There is no point talk about this anymore...

repetita juvant

[ME859]

Fingertrip wrote...

Xenite wrote...

Wonder how many millions they have lost out on by hosing us with that ending. I own every single piece of DLC for Origins, DA2 and ME1&2. Havn't bought a single DLC for ME3 and I know I'm not the only one.

Let's all ignore the Multiplayer bit where you can purchase packs for real money, and the fact that ME3 sold very well.

You're part of the minority, they haven't lost a dime. Hater, lol.

Do you understand how the stock market works?

[Reth Shepherd]

Fingertrip wrote...

Xenite wrote...

Wonder how many millions they have lost out on by hosing us with that ending. I own every single piece of DLC for Origins, DA2 and ME1&2. Havn't bought a single DLC for ME3 and I know I'm not the only one.

Let's all ignore the Multiplayer bit where you can purchase packs for real money, and the fact that ME3 sold very well.

You're part of the minority, they haven't lost a dime. Hater, lol.

Do I really need to link the Xbox Live Marketplace statistics again? Let's math. $1,000,000 divided by $10 is 100,000 people. There were polls that got 80,000 responses and the Child's Play charity raised $80,000 in a matter of days Given the customer service saying that for every upset customer who speak up, there are 10 more who just walk awa

You know what? Frell it. You're not worth my time, not when the kitten needs my attention more than you do. If you want to consider this a victory go right ahead. I won't contest it.

[Tiina]

crimzontearz wrote...

SaTima-78 wrote...

Oh come on people! just let it be already <_<
There is no point talk about this anymore...

repetita juvant

Non prosunt, mihi crede.

[Benchpress610]

Fingertrip wrote...

Xenite wrote...

Wonder how many millions they have lost out on by hosing us with that ending. I own every single piece of DLC for Origins, DA2 and ME1&2. Havn't bought a single DLC for ME3 and I know I'm not the only one.

Let's all ignore the Multiplayer bit where you can purchase packs for real money, and the fact that ME3 sold very well.

You're part of the minority, they haven't lost a dime. Hater, lol.

You sure must be jesting…do you really buy MP packs with real money?....Nah …

Modifié par Benchpress610, 16 janvier 2013 - 07:20 .

[samgurl775]

Postman778 wrote...

TheTrueObelus wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

We have said this many times, we are done with the ending of Mass Effect. While there is still DLC to come (I cannot go into details yet) we will not be making any "ending" DLC.

You may think you're done with the ending but you're not. It will haunt the company for as long as it produces Mass Effect games.

I expect it will haunt the company as long as it produces games...
There are a lot of examples from the industry where companies suffered from wrong decisions (Nokia, Opel etc.) and a lot of them are struggeling to survive

Yeah I was going to say...this is never going to go away. Whenever they release a game people are always going to say "Remember what train wreck the Mass Effect 3 ending was?"