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[Doctoglethorpe]

Polygamy leads to jealousy, jealousy leads to anger, anger leads to hate... you know where I'm going with this. 

[esper]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

Polygamy leads to jealousy, jealousy leads to anger, anger leads to hate... you know where I'm going with this. 

That is flat out not true. If all participants in the relationship have an equal amount of power/position whatever we call it, there is no need for jealosy.

Of course... descriping such a relationship properly is difficult when it comes to a game where all the romances are optional.

[Sith Grey Warden]

Let's hold off on this until the controversy over bi/homosexual romances dies down. Then we can discuss how a polygamous relationship could be handled without being seen as purely fanservice.

[Blackrising]

Sith Grey Warden wrote...

Let's hold off on this until the controversy over bi/homosexual romances dies down. Then we can discuss how a polygamous relationship could be handled without being seen as purely fanservice.

Well, considering how often threads like 'DON'T MAKE ALL LIs BISEXUAL!!11!!1' pop up, that is approximately....never.

[karushna5]

Most polygamous relationships do not work in real life, and the very idea that a male character can try to get Leliana and Morrigan together, makes me squeamish. It can be generally accepted, that Morrigan could not share, and definitely not with chantry girl Leliana or the hated Alistair. Zevran...maybe but as I said who could share in a relationship with him. It feels off, and very out of character for any of them. Merrill would never be with two people at once, and WHO could put up with Fenris and Anders. Thankfully, it will probably never happen.

[ReallyRue]

My interest in that would depend on the character. I can see Zev/Isabela/PC working as a three-way relationship due to Zevran and Isabela's open-mindedness towards sexuality and their good relationship with each other.

A polygamous relationship between Morrigan/Leliana/Warden or Anders/Fenris/Hawke wouldn't work at all because the two NPCs don't get along (especially the guys), and their relationship styles are very different. Not in a complimentary way, either.

[David Gaider]

EpicTragedy wrote...
They already have included brief moments where a "three-some" or a "four-some" can happen in a sexual encounter, but why reject the possibility of three partners, or maybe even more, in a polygamous relationship with one another?

Mostly because it's incredibly complex to have it exist in conjunction with single romances (for the same characters). If there were romances that you could only exist as a group, that might be easier, but I have my doubts we'd ever do that.

[gneisenau556]

It would hard to program because the AI would have to interact with each other, much like how the PC interacts with an NPC.

[In Exile]

Plaintiff wrote...
In real life, polyamorous relationships are complicated. Bioware could do what you suggested but that wouldn't be polyamory, it would be the player character romancing several party members at once, with the party members themselves by and large acting as though the other relationships didn't exist.

That's not necessarily different from how some open relationships work.

[karushna5]

Maybe it is just me, it just feels uncomfortable to have the Pcs watching and even convincing the NPCs have sex together, seems very voyeur, and maybe even a bit like using the characters as sex bots. On the other hand, I wouldn't see other people play that way. Romances are cool, I just worry it will get creepy with it becoming more like Witcher and less like give Morrigan a necklace and convince her to fall for you.

[Kulyok]

I'd rather there wasn't any such thing. It would be too unfair: there's still no opportunity of romance for players whose characters would like to wait with sex before marriage, AND to have the said marriage, if only in the epilogue. The only one who explicitly was willing to wait without breaking up, as I recall, was Lawful Good Sir Anomen Delryn back in Baldur's Gate 2, and even then, only in the Shadows of Amon portion. In the Throne of Bhaal expansion, it was assumed in his lovetalks they were sleeping together, even while unmarried and before his proposal. They were married eventually, though, thank Helm. So, allowing polyamory but not waiting before the eventual marriage? Like I said, it doesn't seem very fair to me.

Modifié par Kulyok, 14 janvier 2013 - 06:54 .

[lady_v23]

 I really don´'t care for it.  And if Bioware somehow does it i would not mind.  As long a it is not forced in my direction.. Anders

[Iakus]

David Gaider wrote...

EpicTragedy wrote...
They already have included brief moments where a "three-some" or a "four-some" can happen in a sexual encounter, but why reject the possibility of three partners, or maybe even more, in a polygamous relationship with one another?

Mostly because it's incredibly complex to have it exist in conjunction with single romances (for the same characters). If there were romances that you could only exist as a group, that might be easier, but I have my doubts we'd ever do that.

So, in other words, it's much like in real life

[schalafi]

addiction21 wrote...

Not sure where the "foursome" happened but I would prefer more is placed into the included romance options then trying to make more numbers or whatever.
I think BIoWare could put more work into the individual romances.

I agree, the individual romances could use some work. I wish the romances didn't take place in one act, and then nothing. They should be spread out more, with more signs of affection, not just one sex scene, and that's all. Let them get the individual romances right before even starting to mess up polygamous romances.

[Bekkael]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Hopefully so.

+1. There are some places you don't really need to go in a video game. There's already plenty of romance stuff for just about every preference in BioWare games. I'd rather they spent resources on more story/quests/content that everyone could enjoy, rather than including content that would only be something a fairly small slice of the fanbase would ever be interested in. JMHO.

[Nazomi]

Bekkael wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

Hopefully so.

+1. There are some places you don't really need to go in a video game. There's already plenty of romance stuff for just about every preference in BioWare games. I'd rather they spent resources on more story/quests/content that everyone could enjoy, rather than including content that would only be something a fairly small slice of the fanbase would ever be interested in. JMHO.

If Bioware declined to include content that a small slice of the fanbase was interested there would be no s/s romance options (definitely not for males at least). You're kidding yourself though if you think there aren't many male gamers in particular who would be just fine with the option to romance more than one female love interest.

[Doctoglethorpe]

David Gaider wrote...

EpicTragedy wrote...
They already have included brief moments where a "three-some" or a "four-some" can happen in a sexual encounter, but why reject the possibility of three partners, or maybe even more, in a polygamous relationship with one another?

Mostly because it's incredibly complex to have it exist in conjunction with single romances (for the same characters). If there were romances that you could only exist as a group, that might be easier, but I have my doubts we'd ever do that.

Inquisitor, Rhys and Evangeline.  Do it.

(Don't do it, that would be terrible.)

[Bekkael]

Nazomi wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

Hopefully so.

+1. There are some places you don't really need to go in a video game. There's already plenty of romance stuff for just about every preference in BioWare games. I'd rather they spent resources on more story/quests/content that everyone could enjoy, rather than including content that would only be something a fairly small slice of the fanbase would ever be interested in. JMHO.

If Bioware declined to include content that a small slice of the fanbase was interested there would be no s/s romance options (definitely not for males at least). You're kidding yourself though if you think there aren't many male gamers in particular who would be just fine with the option to romance more than one female love interest.

Yes, but as I mentioned, there's already an array of romantic offerings for just about every taste. How far are we going to try to push this romantic envelope? What about the small group who might enjoy a sexual romance with Dog, or perhaps they want to be intimate with a corpse? Where do you draw the line? At some point, I think it's perfectly fine to say that they've done enough to be inclusive.

[AstraDrakkar]

I support multiple partners in DA3.

[Harle Cerulean]

Bekkael wrote...

Nazomi wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

Hopefully so.

+1. There are some places you don't really need to go in a video game. There's already plenty of romance stuff for just about every preference in BioWare games. I'd rather they spent resources on more story/quests/content that everyone could enjoy, rather than including content that would only be something a fairly small slice of the fanbase would ever be interested in. JMHO.

If Bioware declined to include content that a small slice of the fanbase was interested there would be no s/s romance options (definitely not for males at least). You're kidding yourself though if you think there aren't many male gamers in particular who would be just fine with the option to romance more than one female love interest.

Yes, but as I mentioned, there's already an array of romantic offerings for just about every taste. How far are we going to try to push this romantic envelope? What about the small group who might enjoy a sexual romance with Dog, or perhaps they want to be intimate with a corpse? Where do you draw the line? At some point, I think it's perfectly fine to say that they've done enough to be inclusive.

Ah, yes, the good old "slippery slope" argument that compares what two or more consenting adults do, to things that involve a party incapable of consent.  Do you have any idea how 'phobic you sound when you start spouting that kind of thing?

[Fast Jimmy]

David Gaider wrote...

EpicTragedy wrote...
They already have included brief moments where a "three-some" or a "four-some" can happen in a sexual encounter, but why reject the possibility of three partners, or maybe even more, in a polygamous relationship with one another?

Mostly because it's incredibly complex to have it exist in conjunction with single romances (for the same characters). If there were romances that you could only exist as a group, that might be easier, but I have my doubts we'd ever do that.

A particularly sordid idea of Jaheira and Kahlid in BG1 letting you in on their "Swingers" type of relationship pops into mind... and I really wish it hadn't. 

[Bekkael]

Deleted, because devil's advocate humor seldom translates well in text.

Modifié par Bekkael, 14 janvier 2013 - 10:05 .