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HardcoreSalmon

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Non Reload Canceling: Link

Reload Canceling: Link

Another weapon test comparing the damage of sniper rifles this time. The target was ravagers on platinum with self detonated sacks. I decided to add reload canceling this time because the 1 shot snipers really suffered from not doing it and so I could compare the times. I used no consumables.

Every gun was level ten except the valiant that was level 6. And I used double piercing on all guns except the krysea and kishock where I used damage and capacity.

class used: Turian Sentinel
Weapon Passives: 37.5 Weapon damage

Non Reload Canceling:
12. Mantis 24.6s
11. Viper 17.5s
10. Widow 16.9s
9. Incisor 15.3s
8. Raptor 14.4s
7. Kishock 14.0s
6. Krysea 12.4s
5. Javelin 12.4s
4. Indra 11.6s
3. Valiant 11.5s
2. CSR 10.6s
1. Black Widow 8.3s

Reload Canceling:
12. Mantis 16.9s
11. Viper 14.6s
10. Raptor 14.5s
9. Incisor 12.9s
8. Widow 11.8s
7. Valiant 10.8s
6. CSR 10.6s (Same time can't reload cancel)
5. Kishock 10.5s
4. Krysea 10.4s
3. Indra 10.2s
2. Javelin 8.9s
1. Black Widow 7.0s

Notes:
-The collector sniper rifle took 13.8 seconds holding the trigger down and 10.6 seconds burst firing.
-The Kishock took 14.4 seconds charging it up and 14.0 seconds not charging it.
-Reload canceling 1 shot sniper rifles decreases the time by roughly 40%.
-The krysea has a 1.5 multiplier against armor and without that it would probably be last.

Modifié par Hardcoresalmon, 14 janvier 2013 - 11:52 .


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Pyroninja42

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So what you're telling me is that the Incisor managed to kill something faster than something else.

I call bullcrap! THIS MAN IS A FRAUD!

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Poison_Berrie

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Why add double piercing on most and than add damage on those that ignore DR?

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Poison_Berrie wrote...

Why add double piercing on most and than add damage on those that ignore DR?


The High Velocity Barrel and Extended Barrel both offer 25% Enhanced Damage.

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Pyroninja42 wrote...

So what you're telling me is that the Incisor managed to kill something faster than something else.


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Brumisateur

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How come the Raptor has a longer time with reload cancel than without ?

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HardcoreSalmon

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Pyroninja42 wrote...

So what you're telling me is that the Incisor managed to kill something faster than something else.

I call bullcrap! THIS MAN IS A FRAUD!


The problem with the incisor is the stability not the damage and I was using a turian and sitting in cover, so stability wasn't an issue.

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GeneralMoskvin_2.0

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So except for the Black widow and the Krysae all of my fav. sniper rifles are in the top 6.

Yes, once again, I approve.

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Pyroninja42 wrote...

So what you're telling me is that the Incisor managed to kill something faster than something else.

I call bullcrap! THIS MAN IS A FRAUD!


Incisor actually does damage... if you manage to keep the aim on the target.

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megabeast37215

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Cool list Salmon. I really enjoy it when you make these. Thanks.

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HardcoreSalmon

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Brumisateur wrote...

How come the Raptor has a longer time with reload cancel than without ?


I messed that up because it shot faster the first time even though it seemed like I was pressing the right trigger at the same speed. It would have probably been 1 or 2 seconds faster.

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Poison_Berrie

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AaronEh wrote...

The High Velocity Barrel and Extended Barrel both offer 25% Enhanced Damage.

Off course. 

/me Gibbs-slaps himself

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najzere

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Nice work!

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Arctican

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I really don't get the Incisor hate. It's really not as a bad as weapon as everyone makes it out to be. I am pretty surprised by how well the Krysae did even with its bonus damage against armor.

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Arctican wrote...

I really don't get the Incisor hate. It's really not as a bad as weapon as everyone makes it out to be. I am pretty surprised by how well the Krysae did even with its bonus damage against armor.


This. The incisor is definitely not bad for being an uncommon. The krysae kind of sucks instead. Useful, occasionally, but overall... It's bad.

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Arctican wrote...

I really don't get the Incisor hate. It's really not as a bad as weapon as everyone makes it out to be. I am pretty surprised by how well the Krysae did even with its bonus damage against armor.


I was surprised at that and how bad the mantis and widow were. I thinks it's because I've always used the widow on infiltrators.

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Deerber wrote...

Arctican wrote...

I really don't get the Incisor hate. It's really not as a bad as weapon as everyone makes it out to be. I am pretty surprised by how well the Krysae did even with its bonus damage against armor.


This. The incisor is definitely not bad for being an uncommon. The krysae kind of sucks instead. Useful, occasionally, but overall... It's bad.


Incisor has VERY bad damage, and VERY bad recoil. The hornet does everything better. Is someone using the hornet ? Nobody. :lol:

And for uncommons, the mattock does better. Infinitely better. (better damage per shot, no recoil, better RoF)

I just can't kill anything in bronze with Incisor. Numbers aren't everything. Widow is great. Incisor isn't at all :D

Modifié par tictactucrac, 14 janvier 2013 - 09:14 .


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I'm also very surprised Krysae managed to beat out Incisor. Incisor has better DPS, even against Krysae's armor damage bonus.

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Nitrocuban

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So ... the BW needs some ... adjustments, right?

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HardcoreSalmon

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Nitrocuban wrote...

So ... the BW needs some ... adjustments, right?


As an ultra rare it should be that good and it's about the same as other ultra rares in other categories.

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Did you charge the Kishock?

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HardcoreSalmon

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modok8 wrote...

Did you charge the Kishock?


I forgot to say, I tested both and it was slightly faster to not charge it up.

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Tyhw's spreadsheet does a pretty good job of calculating these numbers.

http://social.biowar...ndex/15062679/1


I just did a quick check and the Mantis, Widow, and BWidow are all about the same as yours for Ravagers while giving the same info for every other enemy in the game.:whistle:

Modifié par Shampoohorn, 14 janvier 2013 - 09:51 .


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jrm_ayun

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Amazing list. Black Widow FTW! I love that gun. So is it safe to assume you're doing smgs and pistols next?

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tictactucrac wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Arctican wrote...

I really don't get the Incisor hate. It's really not as a bad as weapon as everyone makes it out to be. I am pretty surprised by how well the Krysae did even with its bonus damage against armor.


This. The incisor is definitely not bad for being an uncommon. The krysae kind of sucks instead. Useful, occasionally, but overall... It's bad.


Incisor has VERY bad damage, and VERY bad recoil. The hornet does everything better. Is someone using the hornet ? Nobody. :lol:

And for uncommons, the mattock does better. Infinitely better. (better damage per shot, no recoil, better RoF)

I just can't kill anything in bronze with Incisor. Numbers aren't everything. Widow is great. Incisor isn't at all :D


That is just your opinion. Saying that the hornet does everything better is completely silly.

The Mattock is probably the best uncommon, if you've got a good finger. But some people don't like to get carpal tunnel syndrome at 30, you know...

https://www.youtube....?v=7McHYs_kJsQ: it's not that bad...