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[Catfish Shotgun]

Some form of emphasis on unarmed combat would be nice, too.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

AmstradHero wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...
Perhaps you should actually play the Witcher 2 ... unfortunately for you my dear wikipedia doesnt exactly impart all the knowledge one gains of a game by actually playing it.

Right, so because someone disagrees with you and has valid criticism of a game you like, that automatically means they must not have played it? Come off it, stop the bollocks.  I had someone accuse me of never having played the original Witcher when I explained at length about how and why I didn't like it, and I still happily stand by that assessment.

Come now Amstrad, you diddnt think it would be that easy now did you? If someone were to say "Dragon Age sucks because there are too many Ewoks" or "The main currency in Dragon Age is rainbows" I am pretty sure that anyone with half a brain could deduce that the person making such claims is speaking fecal matter.

If someone were to post valid critcisms of the game then perhaps I might take their post seriously, however unless demont0 believes that Origins only had 6 short inconsequential branches at the beginning that all branched into a long singular linear storyline and that Dragon Age 2 did not have a branching storyline at all (which I assume he isnt due to the fact he is actively defending the "branchiness" of these games) then I think it is fairly safe to say that demont0 has never played the Witcher 2 just as it is also fairly safe to say that you havent either as evident by your choice to defend him.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Well I dunno if anyone has said it yet, but Bioware's rpg hook as you put it is the romance options.

[Galbrant]

Playable Dwarves, Spears(Seriously this is one of the most common weapons out there. I don't know why video games like Skyrim ignore them), Oh and....a in game Dwarven Brothel.

[Rawgrim]

Plaintiff wrote...

Celene II wrote...
We know that Skyrim outsold da2 by a wide margin why didnt the amazing branching storyline of DA2 beat the stark linear story of Skyrim?

Popularity does not indicate quality. Skyrim's success could be for any number of reasons, not the least of which would be that it had a much more aggressive media campagin.

I`d say it was a mix between the marketing + the fact that the elder scrolls games has built up a massive following since the early 90s when the first game came out.

[Rawgrim]

Galbrant wrote...

Playable Dwarves, Spears(Seriously this is one of the most common weapons out there. I don't know why video games like Skyrim ignore them), Oh and....a in game Dwarven Brothel.

You get spears in the latest expansion pack, I belive.

[LPPrince]

Bowstrings.

[LPPrince]

Rawgrim wrote...

Galbrant wrote...

Playable Dwarves, Spears(Seriously this is one of the most common weapons out there. I don't know why video games like Skyrim ignore them), Oh and....a in game Dwarven Brothel.

You get spears in the latest expansion pack, I belive.

You do not. Rieklings throw little spear things, which count as arrows if you pick them up.

[Rawgrim]

LPPrince wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Galbrant wrote...

Playable Dwarves, Spears(Seriously this is one of the most common weapons out there. I don't know why video games like Skyrim ignore them), Oh and....a in game Dwarven Brothel.

You get spears in the latest expansion pack, I belive.

You do not. Rieklings throw little spear things, which count as arrows if you pick them up.

ahh, my bad then. I just saw some mention of spears being back in the expansion. Lame that they should remove them, though. since Morrowind had spears.

[nicethugbert]

A purely story driven game where every action is done to advance a story element. A game where, given the choices, you decide or discover what your goals will be, how you will get there, who your friends, allies, and enemies are.

No loot lying around, no generic items. Anything of interest involves a story worth telling. You don't buy WMD in shops where the merchants magically never get robbed even tho they are easy pickings, as easy as beggers.

I would like to see the same for the character advancement system. If the characters themselves are to be WMD, then they have to discover how. Power should be something worthy of a story, not just the accumulation of XP points for doing stuff.

The character should in accordance with his goals discover the obstacles to his goals, discover the path through or around the obstacles to his goals, discover the tools necessary to achieve the goals. Those tools could be information, allies, weapons, magic powers, wealth, anything.

In this context, role matters. So while you are busy with your companions doing missions and what not, your rogue allies are gathering intel. Your mage allies are conducting research and making magic items. Your warrior allies are protecting them, etc. A lot of loyalties would have to be secured in order to make sure noe of these people stab you in the back. and, who knows, maybe someone will anyway.

The game will need a good checkpoint and save system, and fast reloads, because success may require some reloads.

Also, ...... difficulty sliders, because not everyone shares the same opinion on difficulty.

[AmstradHero]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...
If someone were to post valid critcisms of the game then perhaps I might take their post seriously, however unless demont0 believes that Origins only had 6 short inconsequential branches at the beginning that all branched into a long singular linear storyline and that Dragon Age 2 did not have a branching storyline at all (which I assume he isnt due to the fact he is actively defending the "branchiness" of these games) then I think it is fairly safe to say that demont0 has never played the Witcher 2 just as it is also fairly safe to say that you havent either as evident by your choice to defend him.

Do me a favour and actually read people's posts properly rather than read them and just substituting what they said with what you think they're saying. demont0 said that Witcher 2 does not have a more branching story "by a lightyear", and also indicated that "better" is entirely subjective. He said none of what you've just inserted above.

Your response? "You haven't played the Witcher 2, so your opinion is invalid." Sorry, that's BS. What's more, this seems to be a common tactic for rabid fans of The Witcher (2). If the game you love is so good, you should be able to discuss its merits without resorting to ad hominem.

Furthermore, I never said I played Witcher 2. I said I played the Witcher. Again, read people's posts properly.

Modifié par AmstradHero, 17 janvier 2013 - 08:07 .

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

AmstradHero wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...
If someone were to post valid critcisms of the game then perhaps I might take their post seriously, however unless demont0 believes that Origins only had 6 short inconsequential branches at the beginning that all branched into a long singular linear storyline and that Dragon Age 2 did not have a branching storyline at all (which I assume he isnt due to the fact he is actively defending the "branchiness" of these games) then I think it is fairly safe to say that demont0 has never played the Witcher 2 just as it is also fairly safe to say that you havent either as evident by your choice to defend him.

Do me a favour and actually read people's posts properly rather than read them and just substituting what they said with what you think they're saying. demont0 said that Witcher 2 does not have a more branching story "by a lightyear", and also indicated that "better" is entirely subjective. He said none of what you've just inserted above.

Your response? "You haven't played the Witcher 2, so your opinion is invalid." Sorry, that's BS. What's more, this seems to be a common tactic for rabid fans of The Witcher (2). If the game you love is so good, you should be able to discuss its merits without resorting to ad hominem.

Furthermore, I never said I played Witcher 2. I said I played the Witcher. Again, read people's posts properly.

I never claimed that you said you did play the Witcher 2, I only claimed that I know you havent played it which is true is it not? And being true that you have never played the Witcher 2 you would have no idea if the criticisms thrown at it by demont0 are true or not. As for defending the Witcher 2 I dont have to, the game pretty much speaks for itself and I will not waste my time trying to convince those who have already made up their minds without even playing the game. Saying that the only choice you make in the Witcher 2 is to side with Iorveth or Roche is like me saying the only choice you get to make in Origins is the race of your character, do you really need to go into detail on why this is untrue?

Do me a favor and actually play the game if you are so keen to defend demont0's accusations, why dont you see for yourself if demont0's assessment has any validity to it before rushing blindly into an argument you know nothing about.

[demont0]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

Perhaps you should actually play the Witcher 2, unless of course you are trying to claim that Dragon Age 2 wasnt a branching storyline at all and that Origins only had 6 short branches at the beginning that all branched into a long singular linear storyline. I do however admire your guts however in trying to present the argument in a civil manner in an effort to make it look like you knew what you were talking about but unfortunately for you my dear wikipedia doesnt exactly impart all the knowledge one gains of a game by actually playing it.

Wow, that was unduly hostile. 
Though you did a good job of not actually counter arguing me, or even tryign to disprove my points, so credit where credit is due i suppose.

P.S. yes i have played Witcher 2, twice in fact.

Modifié par demont0, 18 janvier 2013 - 12:24 .

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

demont0 wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

Perhaps you should actually play the Witcher 2, unless of course you are trying to claim that Dragon Age 2 wasnt a branching storyline at all and that Origins only had 6 short branches at the beginning that all branched into a long singular linear storyline. I do however admire your guts however in trying to present the argument in a civil manner in an effort to make it look like you knew what you were talking about but unfortunately for you my dear wikipedia doesnt exactly impart all the knowledge one gains of a game by actually playing it.

Wow, that was unduly hostile. 
Though you did a good job of not actually counter arguing me, or even tryign to disprove my points, so credit where credit is due i suppose.

P.S. yes i have played Witcher 2, twice in fact.

Unduly hostile? Well I guess there is no real amicable way of calling someone a liar, as for me not counter arguing you try posting something that is actually worth arguing against and perhaps I will consider it.

But ok, if you truely have played the Witcher 2 and believe that the only real choice of consequence you make is the choice to side with either Iorveth or Roche then how can you even consider Dragon Age 2 a branching story at all? This is ignoring the fact that even the minor choices in the Witcher 2 have a far bigger impact on the story and outcome than the major choices in DA2 ever did.

[addiction21]

Rawgrim wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Celene II wrote...
We know that Skyrim outsold da2 by a wide margin why didnt the amazing branching storyline of DA2 beat the stark linear story of Skyrim?

Popularity does not indicate quality. Skyrim's success could be for any number of reasons, not the least of which would be that it had a much more aggressive media campagin.

I`d say it was a mix between the marketing + the fact that the elder scrolls games has built up a massive following since the early 90s when the first game came out.

Well I would also throw out Fallout 3 and New Vegas. I know it was Obsidian for New Vegas but Bethesda had their name all over it.

I usually don't care about the numbers but I remember (this is maybe a year ago) a large difference between Oblivion and Skyrim. It was in the millions.

[Renmiri1]

Flying
Swimming
3D combat (while flying or swimming)
Rack to show off weapons and armor (like skyrim)
Horse riding
Playing an instrument (like Zelda's Ocarina style)
Ability to build in game (like Minecraft)

Mind you nothing above is necessary, DA is a great universe and the games are great as they are, but if people want to imagine cool things to have, those are my ideas

[Sylvanpyxie]

What feature is the DA series missing?

Chicken Races.

[Celene II]

Plaintiff wrote...

Celene II wrote...
We know that Skyrim outsold da2 by a wide margin why didnt the amazing branching storyline of DA2 beat the stark linear story of Skyrim?

Popularity does not indicate quality. Skyrim's success could be for any number of reasons, not the least of which would be that it had a much more aggressive media campagin.

Yes, tons of things can determine the success of a game. I agree on this point

However, popularity ie the money made by a game is an indicator of how well a game does for a company. It may not indicate "quality" but it indicates how likely DLCs will be made, how likely sequels will be made, and its a driving force for any game company.

You would hope that the PR dept of EA is already working on all those other reasons like media, Bioware needs to work on the other things like features that will impress those that play these types of games

[addiction21]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

What feature is the DA series missing?

Chicken Races.

<----Avater

I agree. I would also like a waffle combat spec.

[thats1evildude]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

Chicken Races.

Do you mean chicken racing competitions or sentient anthromorphic chickens?

Modifié par thats1evildude, 18 janvier 2013 - 04:47 .

[Sylvanpyxie]

Do you mean chicken racing competitions or sentient anthromorphic chickens?

Why not both?

[Plaintiff]

thats1evildude wrote...

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

Chicken Races.

Do you mean chicken racing competitions or sentient anthromorphic chickens?

The sentient chickens ride the dumb ones.

[Renmiri1]

Unmanned drones

[AppealToReason]

Korean action game style jiggle physics.

[Renmiri1]

Oghren Gangnan Style ?