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[Original Twigman]

nuh1 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Titus Thongger wrote...

score is a indication of performance in the game but it doesnt tell the whole picture

nuff said

please, tell the whole picture of a 20k Geth infiltrator

It's a GI's job to score high with damage.
Volus engineer with 10k less than the 3rd player in a Gold match. He shield boosted when everyone needed shields, recon debuffed large groups/bosses, and proxy debuffed / shot everything he saw.
There is your picture. Score mongers can stick to their high damage kits 24/7, the masses would like to have fun while still contributing to the fight in a helpful way with kits they like.

here is your typical volus

[Deerber]

Score matters. Yes. But only to a certain extent. Is it the most important factor? It depends on what you mean by "most important". Is it the one that makes the difference in the end? Probably yes, then. Is it the one without which a player cannot be good? Definitely not, then.

[Kalas747]

Boring thread.  Great job outscoring a 13-year-old kid who got this game for christmas most likely.  I'm only dissapointed that you didn't post a pic of your score after extraction and post it here.

[progste2]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

everytime i shoot a banshee once and get 2300 points for killing it, even though my squadmate took 4/5 of her health, and got a 700 point assist, i remember this.

if you take that much points it means you did most of the damage or you would  get much less, many times I killed a banshee getting only 700 or got 1800 assistance without killing it

[Original Twigman]

ellipticwhistle wrote...

So the wee-little Volus following my slayer around providing me with infinite phase disrupter spam is not helping at all, and since only scores 10-20k, is a bad player? OP is either stupid or trolling.

See Co-Op strategy #2

classic example.

[EloreRainbrought]

it is time to greet him with kill stealing issues...XD

[Computron2000]

Titus Thongger wrote...

score is a indication of performance in the game but it doesnt tell the whole picture

nuff said

^what he said. I had cases of suicidal furies, kroguards, novaguards and drell adepts try get to the top. Sure they ended up 2nd or sometimes third (these people should start noticing that you can't top the board if you lie down on the ground so much) but they extend the match for no good reason and cause softhearted teammates to suck (as they will be out of medigel in the late waves).

In the cases of tough objectives (ala London central hack with a drell adept ignoring most of it, a bleeder and a paladin who tried), failure of the match is a possibility

[nuh1]

Original Stikman wrote...

nuh1 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Titus Thongger wrote...

score is a indication of performance in the game but it doesnt tell the whole picture

nuff said

please, tell the whole picture of a 20k Geth infiltrator

It's a GI's job to score high with damage.
Volus engineer with 10k less than the 3rd player in a Gold match. He shield boosted when everyone needed shields, recon debuffed large groups/bosses, and proxy debuffed / shot everything he saw.
There is your picture. Score mongers can stick to their high damage kits 24/7, the masses would like to have fun while still contributing to the fight in a helpful way with kits they like.

here is your typical volus

Yes, because a bad player is the best candidate for representing a kit. /logic

[ValorOfArms777]

Aww Original Stikman ..still thinks this huh, not first time I heard this from him or others...it's not as black and white as he takes it...

you can throw it in my face how much you so called think you're more "skilled" than everything just cause of a score... fine do it, but you are pretty blind to your own "so called skill" I'll giv eyou props for being skullfull but just caus eyou score 20-50k more points don't make you the dominate skill....theres other playstyles other than yours and not all of them result in the most score

what a illogical thought just like N7 rank means skill or CP stacking up means skill.. it's fruitless skill is only measured in trial and error and understanding...

I hold back, cause I don't care about score ..I just wanna have fun plsu tryign too hard on a game is stupid...called a game for a reason <_<

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 15 janvier 2013 - 07:35 .

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Score is an indicator. As accurate as the GDP, the indicator for a country's economical and industrial growth.

[GallowsPole]

progste2 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

everytime i shoot a banshee once and get 2300 points for killing it, even though my squadmate took 4/5 of her health, and got a 700 point assist, i remember this.

if you take that much points it means you did most of the damage or you would  get much less, many times I killed a banshee getting only 700 or got 1800 assistance without killing it

This would be false. Many a time I've rounded a corner and popped a single shot and got the kill and while not all the points, far more than a single shot is worth. I've gotten over 1800 points for an Atlas or Banshee for one or two shots.

[jcamdenlane]

This game is not set up to reward individual proficiency. Think it causes people to obsess about finding ways to prove skill.

[me0120]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Score is an indicator. As accurate as the GDP, the indicator for a country's economical and industrial growth.

Only spot on comparison I've seen. 

[progste2]

nuh1 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

nuh1 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Titus Thongger wrote...

score is a indication of performance in the game but it doesnt tell the whole picture

nuff said

please, tell the whole picture of a 20k Geth infiltrator

It's a GI's job to score high with damage.
Volus engineer with 10k less than the 3rd player in a Gold match. He shield boosted when everyone needed shields, recon debuffed large groups/bosses, and proxy debuffed / shot everything he saw.
There is your picture. Score mongers can stick to their high damage kits 24/7, the masses would like to have fun while still contributing to the fight in a helpful way with kits they like.

here is your typical volus

Yes, because a bad player is the best candidate for representing a kit. /logic

no, because is rare to find a good player with a volus
if someone with a volus is good he can make a decent score (40k+) and still help his teammates, if he doesn't make any damage to the enemies he's actually making the game longer and leaving more work to the rest of the team
shield boosting ISN'T the only thing a volus should do

[inversevideo]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

everytime i shoot a banshee once and get 2300 points for killing it, even though my squadmate took 4/5 of her health, and got a 700 point assist, i remember this.

QFT

[Deerber]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Score is an indicator. As accurate as the GDP, the indicator for a country's economical and industrial growth.

When it's used as an indicator for how well people live in that country :happy:

[Kushiel42]

Original Stikman wrote...

I have never, ever, seen PUGs or friends attempt to make this "co-op" based game actually cooperative.

"Never" is obvious hyperbole, even in reference to PUGs. "Rarely," I'd believe.

Mostly, though, it sounds like you need more teamwork-oriented friends.

[Tyrannus00]

Spam reave and warp. Watch sparks fly.

[ValorOfArms777]

progste2 wrote...

nuh1 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

nuh1 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Titus Thongger wrote...

score is a indication of performance in the game but it doesnt tell the whole picture

nuff said

please, tell the whole picture of a 20k Geth infiltrator

It's a GI's job to score high with damage.
Volus engineer with 10k less than the 3rd player in a Gold match. He shield boosted when everyone needed shields, recon debuffed large groups/bosses, and proxy debuffed / shot everything he saw.
There is your picture. Score mongers can stick to their high damage kits 24/7, the masses would like to have fun while still contributing to the fight in a helpful way with kits they like.

here is your typical volus

Yes, because a bad player is the best candidate for representing a kit. /logic

no, because is rare to find a good player with a volus
if someone with a volus is good he can make a decent score (40k+) and still help his teammates, if he doesn't make any damage to the enemies he's actually making the game longer and leaving more work to the rest of the team
shield boosting ISN'T the only thing a volus should do

he's righ ton that fact... even my volus has offensive capabilites..and I score around 20-40k at times, a volus only spammign SB though helpful if he's not at least assisting in any form damage wise... he's just kinda draggin down the time making it daugnting 

[Ryumanjisen]

I pretty much agree with the OP.

This is a game about killing people. The more people you kill, the more points you get; ergo a lot of points means you've killed a lot of people.

Of course, there are some factors to be considered (some kits are meant to be more effective at getting points than other) but f you outscore someone by 90k points you've been a better player than him.

It's not "being elitist", it's the plain truth.

[Original Twigman]

jcamdenlane wrote...

This game is not set up to reward individual proficiency. Think it causes people to obsess about finding ways to prove skill.

this game is set up as a co-op, people don't play it as such, they just cheezball whatever they can however they can with "tactics" like the "helpful" volus and his sidekick slayer.

Please, when that volus gets hit by a collector swarm, they are both going down because they can't score on their own.

score is everything.

[Kalas747]

me0120 wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Score is an indicator. As accurate as the GDP, the indicator for a country's economical and industrial growth.

Only spot on comparison I've seen. 

The headshot of metaphors, go figure...

[Zero132132]

No.





Just trying to get ahead of the "only people that score low disagree" bull****.

Score is greatly biased towards getting the finishing blow and barely takes debuffs into account. It also doesn't include revives (which contribute to every point that a once downed teammate earned that round), objectives (exception for divices), or enemy distraction/kiting/whatever. It also is ridiculously biased towards missile use, and let's be honest, missiling 5 spawns in a match where nobody else is trying for spawn nukage isn't exactly hard.

As for the bull**** about it not being co-op, it's co-op in the sense that all players are working towards the exact same goal (3 objectives, kill all enemies, extract). You had to know that, though. Don't be silly.

[BACON4BREAKFAST]

I agree for the most part, but score can fluctuate between players of equal skill. Especially playing U/U/ with a wide variety of kits you can get unlucky sometimes and not do as well as someone who used a strong kit for the enemy/map.

But the guys who consistently score low are probably bad players.

[darkpassenger2342]

This would be true, if the scoring system wasnt broke as hell.