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[fiendishchicken]

garrusfan1 wrote...

fiendishchicken i don't think they will change it (i would like them to but i doubt it) i think they will add to it though and there is a difference

They have to add to it. 

They know that they have written themselves into a hole with what they put out.

People overwhelmingly want a sequel, and overwhelmingly don't want what BW wanted them to pick. 

I believe that Casey Hudson's action to get a consensus was meant to gauge the viability of acceptance for a prequel. 

BW knows they can't go anywhere with the ending they have. Hudson's 'art' is finally catching up to them. 

The demand is, people want a sequel, and people want destroy. That goes against BW's wishes, but since it's such an overwhelming majority (I don't buy the vocal minority crap for a second), they really are not going to have a choice.

[Steelcan]

fiendishchicken wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...
fiendishchicken i don't think they will change it (i would like them to but i doubt it) i think they will add to it though and there is a difference

They have to add to it. 

They know that they have written themselves into a hole with what they put out.

People overwhelmingly want a sequel, and overwhelmingly don't want what BW wanted them to pick. 

I believe that Casey Hudson's action to get a consensus was meant to gauge the viability of acceptance for a prequel. 

BW knows they can't go anywhere with the ending they have. Hudson's 'art' is finally catching up to them. 

The demand is, people want a sequel, and people want destroy. That goes against BW's wishes, but since it's such an overwhelming majority (I don't buy the vocal minority crap for a second), they really are not going to have a choice.

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[mackan__s]

What i meant was that they are not going to change the original ending, only add on to it.
But that is STILL somehow to "changing" the ending. if it is a post breath scene DLC for an example. Shepard lives... bla bla bla, lived happily togheter rest of their life. bla bla, boss fight, bla bla.. "some tears" EPIC*

Their only chance..

Yeah , i hope you understand what i mean.

[GimmeDaGun]

I don't see how some of you still anticipate an ending related dlc. It's delusional. ME and ME3, ending icluded is what it is. If they plan to make a sequel (which is not certain) they could figure out how to do that without changeing the ending of the trilogy. Also it wouldn't be a very wise business and artistic (yeah, laugh it up) decisions at this point: after a whole free EC dlc just for addressing the endings and almost a year after the release of the initial game (ME3 is almost old news in the gaming community now) it is very unlikely that they would release any ending related material. They also stated several times that this is how they pictured the ending of the trilogy. It's their story: we either take it or leave it.

Yeah, certainly they can add to it a few minor things (dialogue options, maybe a cutscene) via the dlc, but don't expect anything ground shaking that would change the concept and feel of the ending.

You who keep insisting that it's going to be a new ending or anything ending related, brace yourselves for a huge let downt to strike you. Just saying... because it's very probable that you're going to be disappointed and then go on and rage about it here... so I say, lower your expectations for your own sake.

Inb4: I'm not trying to be a jerk or force my personal enjoyment of the current endings on anyone, I'm just trying to be realistic.

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 15 janvier 2013 - 05:37 .

[mackan__s]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

I don't see how some of you still anticipate an ending related dlc. It's delusional. ME and ME3, ending icluded is what it is. If they plan to make a sequel (which is not certain) they could figure out how to do that without changeing the ending of the trilogy. Also it wouldn't be a very wise business and artistic (yeah, laugh it up) decisions at this point: after a whole free EC dlc just for addressing the endings and almost a year after the release of the initial game (ME3 is almost old news in the gaming community now) it is very unlikely that they would release any ending related material. They also stated several times that this is how they pictured the ending of the trilogy. It's their story: we either take it or leave it.

Yeah, certainly they can add to it a few minor things (dialogue options, maybe a cutscene) via the dlc, but don't expect anything ground shaking that would change the concept and feel of the ending.

You who keep insisting that it's going to be a new ending or anything ending related, brace yourselves for a huge let downt to strike you. Just saying... because it's very probable that you're going to be disappointed and then go on and rage about it here... so I say, lower your expectations for your own sake.

Inb4: I'm not trying to be a jerk or force my personal enjoyment of the current endings on anyone, I'm just trying to be realistic.

So what is the meaning of doing a massive DLC , with almost every squadmate, Sam Hullick , and eight writers. If its not changes anything with the ending at all? it just dont make sense. For what? more war assets? no i dont think so, they already fixed it with the EC.

I am beeing torned apart.. I am divided. the one half says what you say, the other have still hope.
Yet, im dont going to buy the DLC at all. If it just gives more war assets. No meaning. It is just... It.

Modifié par mackan__s, 15 janvier 2013 - 05:57 .

[AuditoreanGhost]

Let's say that I would make a game X. End it in style off ME3.. Backslash..

You know what I would do? Change the freaking end or give them a chance... a tiny little chance for redemption.
Just like in ME3. If you picked the right choices, you can achieve peace between the geth and the quarians.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Thread make me sad.

[AuditoreanGhost]

Well, to be honest.

If this next DLC doesn't fix the ending? I'll probably list Bioware as a company I don't wish to support any longer..
I cherished the time I spent with ME, and ME2 but with the last one. I felt lost, anxious and little bit sad and angry.. And most of the time when I get mad at the game? I purge the disc and put some quality games like Age of Empires III on it.. and forget about the actual game...

Even Far Cry III's ending was better than ME3.. That's saying a lot.

[GimmeDaGun]

AuditoreanGhost wrote...

Let's say that I would make a game X. End it in style off ME3.. Backslash..

You know what I would do? Change the freaking end or give them a chance... a tiny little chance for redemption.
Just like in ME3. If you picked the right choices, you can achieve peace between the geth and the quarians.

You wouldn't know since you're not a game developer and producer nor an artist (I assume) who put lots of effort, soul, blood-sweat&tears and many (lifetimes) of working hours into a trilogy of games or peice of work with reasonably limited resources and money at your disposal. You don't know what would you feel or how would you react if people ripped your own "baby" (piece of work based on your own vision, which you love) to pieces and would rage about it day and night. And you're not in the position to feel it on your own skin what it means to take certain risks just to make some of your fans happy when it's about your money, your existence and your artistic freedom.

I'm not trying to defend Casey or Bioware, but I absolutely say their side and points as well. And they are right. I wouldn't have changed the ending of my product in any way, that's for sure despite the rage and demand - so kudos to Bioware for addressing some of the issues in the first place. But that's me (and I'm one who disliked the original ending), but I'm a control freak and kind of a pragmatic cynic in cases like this (and in politics)... selfish ****** I am... . But I hope you get what I try to say.  

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 15 janvier 2013 - 06:15 .

[GimmeDaGun]

mackan__s wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

I don't see how some of you still anticipate an ending related dlc. It's delusional. ME and ME3, ending icluded is what it is. If they plan to make a sequel (which is not certain) they could figure out how to do that without changeing the ending of the trilogy. Also it wouldn't be a very wise business and artistic (yeah, laugh it up) decisions at this point: after a whole free EC dlc just for addressing the endings and almost a year after the release of the initial game (ME3 is almost old news in the gaming community now) it is very unlikely that they would release any ending related material. They also stated several times that this is how they pictured the ending of the trilogy. It's their story: we either take it or leave it.

Yeah, certainly they can add to it a few minor things (dialogue options, maybe a cutscene) via the dlc, but don't expect anything ground shaking that would change the concept and feel of the ending.

You who keep insisting that it's going to be a new ending or anything ending related, brace yourselves for a huge let downt to strike you. Just saying... because it's very probable that you're going to be disappointed and then go on and rage about it here... so I say, lower your expectations for your own sake.

Inb4: I'm not trying to be a jerk or force my personal enjoyment of the current endings on anyone, I'm just trying to be realistic.

So what is the meaning of doing a massive DLC , with almost every squadmate, Sam Hullick , and eight writers. If its not changes anything with the ending at all? it just dont make sense. For what? more war assets? no i dont think so, they already fixed it with the EC.

I am beeing torned apart.. I am divided. the one half says what you say, the other have still hope.
Yet, im dont going to buy the DLC at all. If it just gives more war assets. No meaning. It is just... It.

I read you (speaking of being torn apart, though I'm not), but if I were you I wouldn't read too much into the production details we have for the dlc. It is probably a massive (but it's possible that it's not even that massive) story and character heavy dlc which explores more about the reapers (keepers perhaps) or something new (like the dark energy theme). It coudl be epic and interesting... but just because it's an all-writer (confirmed), all-actors (not-confirmed) dlc with some Sam Hullick music (which means it's going to be full of orchestra and piano music) does not mean that it has anything to do with the ending.

[mackan__s]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

mackan__s wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

I don't see how some of you still anticipate an ending related dlc. It's delusional. ME and ME3, ending icluded is what it is. If they plan to make a sequel (which is not certain) they could figure out how to do that without changeing the ending of the trilogy. Also it wouldn't be a very wise business and artistic (yeah, laugh it up) decisions at this point: after a whole free EC dlc just for addressing the endings and almost a year after the release of the initial game (ME3 is almost old news in the gaming community now) it is very unlikely that they would release any ending related material. They also stated several times that this is how they pictured the ending of the trilogy. It's their story: we either take it or leave it.

Yeah, certainly they can add to it a few minor things (dialogue options, maybe a cutscene) via the dlc, but don't expect anything ground shaking that would change the concept and feel of the ending.

You who keep insisting that it's going to be a new ending or anything ending related, brace yourselves for a huge let downt to strike you. Just saying... because it's very probable that you're going to be disappointed and then go on and rage about it here... so I say, lower your expectations for your own sake.

Inb4: I'm not trying to be a jerk or force my personal enjoyment of the current endings on anyone, I'm just trying to be realistic.

So what is the meaning of doing a massive DLC , with almost every squadmate, Sam Hullick , and eight writers. If its not changes anything with the ending at all? it just dont make sense. For what? more war assets? no i dont think so, they already fixed it with the EC.

I am beeing torned apart.. I am divided. the one half says what you say, the other have still hope.
Yet, im dont going to buy the DLC at all. If it just gives more war assets. No meaning. It is just... It.

I read you (speaking of being torn apart, though I'm not), but if I were you I wouldn't read too much into the production details we have for the dlc. It is probably a massive (but it's possible that it's not even that massive) story and character heavy dlc which explores more about the reapers (keepers perhaps) or something new (like the dark energy theme). It coudl be epic and interesting... but just because it's an all-writer (confirmed), all-actors (not-confirmed) dlc with some Sam Hullick music (which means it's going to be full of orchestra and piano music) does not mean that it has anything to do with the ending.

You've got me.. But as I said, what do we need more for an example "War Assets" for, if we already know what it does? Do you read me now?

[clarkusdarkus]

I just hope those that expect it to be ending dlc hold off from buying it until leaks or a walkthrough has shown that it is ending dlc, as buying it blindly then moaning afterwards like Omega/leviathan wont prove anything, as they'll have your money.

Dont fall into the pre-release jargon( all writers, tears possible) as we know how that pans out, and they do keep stating no more endings so for those that buy blindy remember aslong as u keep buying they're crap......they'll keep making it.

[Dlive]

When they removed the board for the .............theory IT meant something. IT either was the reason they had given which is somewhat possible or Things are in motion and to remove through thread would help the illusion(indoctrination???) till the did bring a post-breath ending or if the next dlc was not ending related end the board because it would basic be a board of insanity and backlash on the site.

[kalasaurus]

Thanks for the laugh, OP 

[Archi_Bowl]

Ithurael wrote...

IT...really

OP look at what happened to IT. The thread is gone, most ITers aren't even on this forum anymore. BSN is an outpost at best.

http://social.biowar.../&v=discussions

They are still alive. IT FTW!!! RAWR!!!

OP, no. I do not think it is an announcement day. Nice shot in the dark though though

Interesting if so though....

[Kel Riever]

Selene Moonsong wrote...

Just to head off any ideas about endings...

  there is no more "endings"

Chris Priestly wrote...
You can keep discussing this if you wish, but it is false. Sorry.
We have aid numerous times now, we have "ended the endings". While there is more DLC for both Single and Multiplayer still to come, there is no more "endings" DLC.

This hurts BioWare.  General Westmoreland a BioWare hero?  Maybe it is Lance Armstrong.

Modifié par Kel Riever, 15 janvier 2013 - 06:59 .