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[xtorma]

upinya slayin wrote...

xtorma wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Julian Skies wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Does anyone want one that isn't insanely easy? How about extract on gold using only common weapons and getting at least a 25 kill medal with that weapon? Its not ahrd to make me extrac with a human infiltrator and a claymore on gold like last weekend

As long as you can make it so the average Bronze player can complete the operation, you can have any operation you want ma'am

I disagree with that, respectfully of course. I don't want this thread turning into a flame war. as i stated before and my manifest shows Back when i wasn't gold ready i didn't do a challenge for extracting on gold. I dind't care of complain becuase it was a challenge that i wasn't good enough to do and therefor shouldn't get rewarded

The problem with gamers is they want eveyrthing for nothing. Its a challenge that nets a reward. you should have to be able to complete a challenge. at this point they aren't challenges. they are minor things anyone can do and everyone gets a weapon. it shold be a challenge and reward system, not a free weapon for eveyrone system

So why should it be this way for everyone when you can easily set these challenges for yourself? People who are not as proficient as you and your friends already aquire weapons and gear at a much slower rate.

they get it at a much faster rate actually.

for example "back in my day"

we had Recruit, Vet, and Specter only.

What this means is to unlock 2 rare weapons we needed 120k credits
Now there are PSPs which means you get them for 99k credits.

Also challenges were bi-weekly not weekly meaning earning guns took twice as long (for N7 weapons)

We didn't have JEPs, so gels and missiles were hard to come by.

We didn't get extraction bonus. 75k was the max we could earn Now you can earn 150k max (we dind't have platinum) Every difficulty nets you more money now.

They gave eveyrone a harrier on N7 day, we ddin't even have a harrier. the best thing we had was a claymore and/or GPS

I played then also, and I have no desire to go back to it. As of right now, the lower your skill level, the less you make, and the slower things unlock. The only people this would hurt would be new players, I just don't see a valid reason to do it.

[upinya slayin]

deafmedal1 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

lol I cna't hang it up yet. I made a commitment to the tourny and i'm gonna stick it out and give it my best. but other then tourney runs i really haven't played much ME3 at all. I've been on AC3 mostly with some halo mixed in. The thing with ME3 was when it came out nothing else good was released until BL2 which was like 9 months later. now there are alot of games and ME3 seems easy/frustrating at the same time.

Halo is a challenge right now cause i suck at it, AC3 feels right. I'm good and challenged when playing with other good players, but dominate bad players. Also dead space 3 is coming out. i picke dup some classic games i got lots of stuff to play. and Lots of cool people to play them with. But i really do love ME3 alot. It restored my love for playing games online. The whole series in itself is amazing. and I lvoe eveyrthing BW did to make it all a reality for us. I guess i'm just wishing they could throw somehting else in to keep me going. But i am semi-retired i gues unit new DLC comes out

I hear you there, the tourney is the only thing keeping me here, save the weekend ops. I've been on Civ 5 for a bit, and am totally addicted. Hell I was gonna hop on Sun to help with the London run but kept saying "Just one more turn..." lol!

CIV 5? DON't know what it stands for lol

and yeah i have to drag myself off AC3 for the tourney. But I made a commitment and I'm going to follow through with it. Once i got the BotB banner done i kinda lost interest. It felt like i was done. And i have eough saved up to get eveyrhting when the new DLC pops. I know i'll come back for the new DLC and keep doing the wekend ops but until then The game i've been addicted to for 10 months has gotten stale for some reason its kinda like when you date someone for a long time and get bored of them (i know its a crappy thing to say) and your not sure what to do

[whateverman7]

i disagree....the challenges are meant to include, not exclude...making the guidelines to completing so strict would defeat that...

on a side note: bw had harder challenges before: the community goals...the challenges for the weapons were never so tough you might not get 1...anyway, people complained that those were not worth the reward, so bw got rid of that and just gave us the challenge for the weapons...now people are complaining those arent hard enough...i swear some of yall will never be satisfied lol...

[Demi g]

upinya slayin wrote...

Does anyone want one that isn't insanely easy? How about extract on gold using only common weapons and getting at least a 25 kill medal with that weapon? Its not ahrd to make me extrac with a human infiltrator and a claymore on gold like last weekend

I've only played multiplayer for a week and only just got comfortable with Silver. If they set it as a Gold challenge all us new for Xmas players would be swarming on gold annoying the hell out of people who'll have to carry us, I'm not comfortable being carried by strangers, I'm no leech.
If you want more of a challenge change the difficulty.
I don't want to get frustrated over something that's supposed to be simple just to go towards my N7 (I think) banner.
I'm not having a go at you I'm just stating that if a challenge is too hard new players won't want to play or will try to get carried. Either way it'll hasten MP's demise and I don't want that. I'm genuinely enjoying myself and loving the people I meet and friends I make in the process!

[upinya slayin]

Grinch57 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Grinch57 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Grinch57 wrote...

Upinya, 
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I never said unreasonable. Its not like i want one to solo paltinum with a level 1. But at least soemthing of a challenge or even something fun. maybe like full extraction on gold using only adepts. IDK and i do have BotB it doens't take any skill. Its an endless grind of waves with characters some of which i didn't even like

Maybe the NFL was a bad analogy numberwise, but it was only to the point of not eveyrone should be able to. Think of it like a marathon. those of us who have jogged eveyrday can do it, but why should someone who has sat on their couch for 10 months be able to get off teh couch and say it shuld only be 100 meters and not a 5k cause they can't jog 5k? therotically anyone healthy enough to walk can walk a 5k with a little effort in traning. it mihgt take foever but they can do it.

I think that is a better example, but it doesn't change my answer.  

I'm a runner.  But I am not a fast runner.  I will never win a marathon.  But I am allowed to compete and am rewarded for the accomplishment of running in a marathon, half marathon or ten miler.  In the world of running, you have elites and first tier athletes.  They are the folks who win the races outright or win for their age groups.  I'm not one of those.

The best I have ever done is come in third in my age class in a half marathon, not a full marathon.  In a full marathon, I try to come in the top 10%.  In shorter races, I sometimes make it into the top 5%.  But the point of the race is not to come in the top three for their age group or only reward those in the top three overall, but give everyone who enters the race a chance to complete it.  That's the point, to complete the race, because that is the challenge.

And that is the point of the weekend challenges.  

yes but why should someone who is 400 lbs form sitting on their couch eating bon bons and wtahcing oprah 24/7 have the right to complain the race is too long and should be shortened. If eveyrthing in life was set at such a low bar so eveyrone could do it, you wouldn't see the elite athletes. you wouldn't get the micheal jordans and the Peyton mannings. The reward is for people who put in effort. tahts why jamarcus russel is a bumb and peyton manning is a HOFer. both ahd talent. manning just had the drive and effort. How would you like it if they cut the race into a 10 yard dash so the lazy person could complete it in an hour while you don't even break a sweat after your traning?

It should be made for eveyrone.

[Volkai7]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Does anyone want one that isn't insanely easy? How about extract on gold using only common weapons and getting at least a 25 kill medal with that weapon? Its not ahrd to make me extrac with a human infiltrator and a claymore on gold like last weekend

Such a strict set of challenges is not possible with the system

Perhaps not, but you could, for example, make an operation with multiple goals that, while not overly difficult to accomplish individually, are difficult to accomplish all at once. For example:
* get '5 waves survived' medal
* get '15 melee kills' medal
* get '25 pistol kills' medal
* extract on gogold most players could accomplish each on a different match without too much difficulty. Someone like  OP here could relish the challenge of completing all objectives in a single match.

[upinya slayin]

xtorma wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

xtorma wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Julian Skies wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Does anyone want one that isn't insanely easy? How about extract on gold using only common weapons and getting at least a 25 kill medal with that weapon? Its not ahrd to make me extrac with a human infiltrator and a claymore on gold like last weekend

As long as you can make it so the average Bronze player can complete the operation, you can have any operation you want ma'am

I disagree with that, respectfully of course. I don't want this thread turning into a flame war. as i stated before and my manifest shows Back when i wasn't gold ready i didn't do a challenge for extracting on gold. I dind't care of complain becuase it was a challenge that i wasn't good enough to do and therefor shouldn't get rewarded

The problem with gamers is they want eveyrthing for nothing. Its a challenge that nets a reward. you should have to be able to complete a challenge. at this point they aren't challenges. they are minor things anyone can do and everyone gets a weapon. it shold be a challenge and reward system, not a free weapon for eveyrone system

So why should it be this way for everyone when you can easily set these challenges for yourself? People who are not as proficient as you and your friends already aquire weapons and gear at a much slower rate.

they get it at a much faster rate actually.

for example "back in my day"

we had Recruit, Vet, and Specter only.

What this means is to unlock 2 rare weapons we needed 120k credits
Now there are PSPs which means you get them for 99k credits.

Also challenges were bi-weekly not weekly meaning earning guns took twice as long (for N7 weapons)

We didn't have JEPs, so gels and missiles were hard to come by.

We didn't get extraction bonus. 75k was the max we could earn Now you can earn 150k max (we dind't have platinum) Every difficulty nets you more money now.

They gave eveyrone a harrier on N7 day, we ddin't even have a harrier. the best thing we had was a claymore and/or GPS

I played then also, and I have no desire to go back to it. As of right now, the lower your skill level, the less you make, and the slower things unlock. The only people this would hurt would be new players, I just don't see a valid reason to do it.

to reward for loyal gamers? Its the same for pre-order bonus's why souldn't someone who pre-orders and buys it day 1 get a reward. its not fair for someone to but it used for 20 buks 6 months later and get the same reward because they are new.

[upinya slayin]

whateverman7 wrote...

i disagree....the challenges are meant to include, not exclude...making the guidelines to completing so strict would defeat that...

on a side note: bw had harder challenges before: the community goals...the challenges for the weapons were never so tough you might not get 1...anyway, people complained that those were not worth the reward, so bw got rid of that and just gave us the challenge for the weapons...now people are complaining those arent hard enough...i swear some of yall will never be satisfied lol...

they complain uot of laziness. its becuase people whined and were lazy so BW dumbed it down. i ahd no issues not getting a gun becuase i couldn't beat gold when that challneg came out and nobody should have an issue with it now.

Kids get trophys nowadays for trying. when i was a kid you got a trphy for winning not trying. stop coddling kids!

[xtorma]

upinya slayin wrote...

xtorma wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

xtorma wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Julian Skies wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Does anyone want one that isn't insanely easy? How about extract on gold using only common weapons and getting at least a 25 kill medal with that weapon? Its not ahrd to make me extrac with a human infiltrator and a claymore on gold like last weekend

As long as you can make it so the average Bronze player can complete the operation, you can have any operation you want ma'am

I disagree with that, respectfully of course. I don't want this thread turning into a flame war. as i stated before and my manifest shows Back when i wasn't gold ready i didn't do a challenge for extracting on gold. I dind't care of complain becuase it was a challenge that i wasn't good enough to do and therefor shouldn't get rewarded

The problem with gamers is they want eveyrthing for nothing. Its a challenge that nets a reward. you should have to be able to complete a challenge. at this point they aren't challenges. they are minor things anyone can do and everyone gets a weapon. it shold be a challenge and reward system, not a free weapon for eveyrone system

So why should it be this way for everyone when you can easily set these challenges for yourself? People who are not as proficient as you and your friends already aquire weapons and gear at a much slower rate.

they get it at a much faster rate actually.

for example "back in my day"

we had Recruit, Vet, and Specter only.

What this means is to unlock 2 rare weapons we needed 120k credits
Now there are PSPs which means you get them for 99k credits.

Also challenges were bi-weekly not weekly meaning earning guns took twice as long (for N7 weapons)

We didn't have JEPs, so gels and missiles were hard to come by.

We didn't get extraction bonus. 75k was the max we could earn Now you can earn 150k max (we dind't have platinum) Every difficulty nets you more money now.

They gave eveyrone a harrier on N7 day, we ddin't even have a harrier. the best thing we had was a claymore and/or GPS

I played then also, and I have no desire to go back to it. As of right now, the lower your skill level, the less you make, and the slower things unlock. The only people this would hurt would be new players, I just don't see a valid reason to do it.

to reward for loyal gamers? Its the same for pre-order bonus's why souldn't someone who pre-orders and buys it day 1 get a reward. its not fair for someone to but it used for 20 buks 6 months later and get the same reward because they are new.

Ok , I am being trolled here. Stupid me for not seeing it earlier.

[Gunboat Diplomat]

Nissun wrote...

We need another "entire squad of the same species" challenge.

Yes pls BW! Those are the most fun challenges

[upinya slayin]

Demi g wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Does anyone want one that isn't insanely easy? How about extract on gold using only common weapons and getting at least a 25 kill medal with that weapon? Its not ahrd to make me extrac with a human infiltrator and a claymore on gold like last weekend

I've only played multiplayer for a week and only just got comfortable with Silver. If they set it as a Gold challenge all us new for Xmas players would be swarming on gold annoying the hell out of people who'll have to carry us, I'm not comfortable being carried by strangers, I'm no leech.
If you want more of a challenge change the difficulty.
I don't want to get frustrated over something that's supposed to be simple just to go towards my N7 (I think) banner.
I'm not having a go at you I'm just stating that if a challenge is too hard new players won't want to play or will try to get carried. Either way it'll hasten MP's demise and I don't want that. I'm genuinely enjoying myself and loving the people I meet and friends I make in the process!

and like i've said before and nobody has commented is that i was in those exact shoes 9-10 months ago. when they made a gold extration shallenge and i was a silver/bronze player.

I remember my 1st gold game ever. I was nervous. i was with all randoms as i didn't have many friends at the time. i was a SI with a widow (not even level 10) i came in 2nd and got kciked right after (my only time i ever got kicked lol) the other 3 were in a party with mics so i didn't have anyone to communicate with. That was after the challenge becuase i was scared crapless of gold when the challenge came out.

I remember doing FBWGG a few times after i made friends and one said here's an easy way for us to beat gold. I remember looking up to people like redjohn who was soloing gold and i never thought i'd be able to do it. Now I realize it isn't even that hard.

I rmemeber playing on bronze with no mods and getting a sense of satisfcation form landing a mailslot on a guardian with a mantis. I felt satisfaction and challenged. now i'll get a melee killstreak on phantoms and not feel as satisfied as i did then

[upinya slayin]

xtorma wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

xtorma wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

xtorma wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Julian Skies wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Does anyone want one that isn't insanely easy? How about extract on gold using only common weapons and getting at least a 25 kill medal with that weapon? Its not ahrd to make me extrac with a human infiltrator and a claymore on gold like last weekend

As long as you can make it so the average Bronze player can complete the operation, you can have any operation you want ma'am

I disagree with that, respectfully of course. I don't want this thread turning into a flame war. as i stated before and my manifest shows Back when i wasn't gold ready i didn't do a challenge for extracting on gold. I dind't care of complain becuase it was a challenge that i wasn't good enough to do and therefor shouldn't get rewarded

The problem with gamers is they want eveyrthing for nothing. Its a challenge that nets a reward. you should have to be able to complete a challenge. at this point they aren't challenges. they are minor things anyone can do and everyone gets a weapon. it shold be a challenge and reward system, not a free weapon for eveyrone system

So why should it be this way for everyone when you can easily set these challenges for yourself? People who are not as proficient as you and your friends already aquire weapons and gear at a much slower rate.

they get it at a much faster rate actually.

for example "back in my day"

we had Recruit, Vet, and Specter only.

What this means is to unlock 2 rare weapons we needed 120k credits
Now there are PSPs which means you get them for 99k credits.

Also challenges were bi-weekly not weekly meaning earning guns took twice as long (for N7 weapons)

We didn't have JEPs, so gels and missiles were hard to come by.

We didn't get extraction bonus. 75k was the max we could earn Now you can earn 150k max (we dind't have platinum) Every difficulty nets you more money now.

They gave eveyrone a harrier on N7 day, we ddin't even have a harrier. the best thing we had was a claymore and/or GPS

I played then also, and I have no desire to go back to it. As of right now, the lower your skill level, the less you make, and the slower things unlock. The only people this would hurt would be new players, I just don't see a valid reason to do it.

to reward for loyal gamers? Its the same for pre-order bonus's why souldn't someone who pre-orders and buys it day 1 get a reward. its not fair for someone to but it used for 20 buks 6 months later and get the same reward because they are new.

Ok , I am being trolled here. Stupid me for not seeing it earlier.

If tahts how u feel i'm sorry you are too self centered to see what my point is. The game isn't about me or you individually. Its about rewarding skilled and loyal players. Not making it easy for someone who just picks it up to solo platinum becuase they complain its too hardso BW should change it to help them.

People with your mindset ruin video games

[DinkumGem]

How soon you forget. Operations with any hint of complexity have generated endless question threads and general anxiousness on BSN. KISS. The operations are much improved.

[palmof40sorrows]

Nissun wrote...

We need another "entire squad of the same species" challenge.

I love those! Although to make it more accessible to newer players, a species mix is probably more likely. But whatevs, yes to more species (alien) specific challenges.

[Robbiesan]

Perhaps we just need more components to challenges to lengthen them.

i.e.
same species (or combination of certain species)
5 extractions, any difficulty, any map (or specific map/s)
3 Waves Survived achieved twice
50K Using Shotguns
50K Using Heavy Pistols
50K Tech Points
50K Biotic Explosions

In other words, keep it relatively easy for newcomers, but long enough in total to keep seasoned players going for a bit. (granted this would still be easy enough for vets but at least it would take more than an hour to complete)

[Shinnyshin]

OP keeps asking for challenge, but often what he's proposing is a gear-check. Or at least heavily influenced by manifest. You're probably a way better player than a beginner, true. But they don't have the manifest to pull off things that you or I would find ridiculously easy.

I'm fine with the idea of a tough weekend challenge. I think most of us are. But it's nigh-impossible to create a weekend challenge that's equally difficult for a wide range of players. You have to design a challenge that's realistically achievable for a player with an empty manifest.

I might suggest something like: "Extract twice without dying". Maxed manifesters will attempt this in Gold and probably have a rough time. Beginners or those less confident will do so in Bronze and still might have to stay on their toes.  Your mail-slot shot was a good example of something that you could very fairly ask people to do because the difficulty in the task is equal across levels and manifests.

Modifié par Shinnyshin, 15 janvier 2013 - 10:44 .

[thatdamnlobster]

im ok with it the way it is, there is alot more people here who are new or dont play much, not top tier like you. if the challenge says the example you showed imagine the amount of new ppl in gold, more than there is now. besides if you want a challenge do the next one with plat/collectors/solo/ only using shuriken with no consumables. there, you got a challenge

edit: i have stuff to do on the weekend too, i dont want to be kept busy the whole weekend 

Modifié par thatdamnlobster, 15 janvier 2013 - 10:46 .

[whateverman7]

upinya slayin wrote...

they complain uot of laziness. its becuase people whined and were lazy so BW dumbed it down. i ahd no issues not getting a gun becuase i couldn't beat gold when that challneg came out and nobody should have an issue with it now.

Kids get trophys nowadays for trying. when i was a kid you got a trphy for winning not trying. stop coddling kids!

are you sure we're talking about the same challenges?...what weapon challenges were so tough you couldnt do it?...the majority of the weapon challenges have been get X amount of points, extract with certain kits/on certain maps, etc....now the community ones were tough, but they didnt give weapons, they gave equipment...

also, i understand what you're saying, i grew up the same way....you have to remember this is a video game....it's a product from a business and no company wants to voluntarily shrink their customer pool...if the challenges are easy, the more people play, which means a higher chance people will spend money.....which is good for business.....

another question: why set the bar so high that the majority will fail?...just so the few that succeeded can have something to brag about?

Modifié par whateverman7, 15 janvier 2013 - 10:54 .

[Gunboat Diplomat]

At this point in the games lifespan introducing harder challenges that might potentially alienate part of the playerbase would be counterprodictive imo

[upinya slayin]

Shinnyshin wrote...

OP keeps asking for challenge, but often what he's proposing is a gear-check. Or at least heavily influenced by manifest. You're probably a way better player than a beginner, true. But they don't have the manifest to pull off things that you or I would find ridiculously easy.

I'm fine with the idea of a tough weekend challenge. I think most of us are. But it's nigh-impossible to create a weekend challenge that's equally difficult for a wide range of players. You have to design a challenge that's realistically achievable for a player with an empty manifest.

I might suggest something like: "Extract twice without dying". Maxed manifesters will attempt this in Gold and probably have a rough time. Beginners or those less confident will do so in Bronze and still might have to stay on their toes.  Your mail-slot shot was a good example of something that you could very fairly ask people to do because the difficulty in the task is equal across levels and manifests.

thats why i suggested gold with a mantis. eveyrone has a mantis and eveyrone has at least a human infiltrator. its a challenge but includes a wepaon eveyrone has and a kit everyone has.

[whateverman7]

Robbiesan wrote...

Perhaps we just need more components to challenges to lengthen them.

i.e.
same species (or combination of certain species)
5 extractions, any difficulty, any map (or specific map/s)
3 Waves Survived achieved twice
50K Using Shotguns
50K Using Heavy Pistols
50K Tech Points
50K Biotic Explosions

In other words, keep it relatively easy for newcomers, but long enough in total to keep seasoned players going for a bit. (granted this would still be easy enough for vets but at least it would take more than an hour to complete)

the challenge is just a cheap way for bw to get more people to come back to play....why make them hard and take the chance of turning people away?.....yall have to remember the challenges are just for promotional weapons....it's already hard enough to get ultra rares cause of how the store is setup, why do the samething for weapons we cant buy?

[upinya slayin]

whateverman7 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

they complain uot of laziness. its becuase people whined and were lazy so BW dumbed it down. i ahd no issues not getting a gun becuase i couldn't beat gold when that challneg came out and nobody should have an issue with it now.

Kids get trophys nowadays for trying. when i was a kid you got a trphy for winning not trying. stop coddling kids!

are you sure we're talking about the same challenges?...what weapon challenges were so tough you couldnt do it?...the majority of the weapon challenges have been get X amount of points, extract with certain kits/on certain maps, etc....now the community ones were tough, but they didnt give weapons, they gave equipment...

also, i understand what you're saying, i grew up the same way....you have to remember this is a video game....it's a product from a business and no company wants to volunteraily shrink their customer pool...if the challenges are easy, the more people play, which means a higher chance people will spend money.....which is good for business.....

another question: why set the bar so high that the majority will fail?...just so the few that succeeded can have something to brag about?

thats my point. I don't know how long you've been playing it but the 1st few challenges ( I dind't do the 1st 4 btw) had difficulty. one was a gold extraction I believe. I wans't on gold. I started on bronze working my way up. The bar was set that high originally and i was ok with not ebing able to reach the bar. But they lowered it due to people whining.

[xtorma]

upinya slayin wrote...

xtorma wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

xtorma wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

xtorma wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Julian Skies wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Does anyone want one that isn't insanely easy? How about extract on gold using only common weapons and getting at least a 25 kill medal with that weapon? Its not ahrd to make me extrac with a human infiltrator and a claymore on gold like last weekend

As long as you can make it so the average Bronze player can complete the operation, you can have any operation you want ma'am

I disagree with that, respectfully of course. I don't want this thread turning into a flame war. as i stated before and my manifest shows Back when i wasn't gold ready i didn't do a challenge for extracting on gold. I dind't care of complain becuase it was a challenge that i wasn't good enough to do and therefor shouldn't get rewarded

The problem with gamers is they want eveyrthing for nothing. Its a challenge that nets a reward. you should have to be able to complete a challenge. at this point they aren't challenges. they are minor things anyone can do and everyone gets a weapon. it shold be a challenge and reward system, not a free weapon for eveyrone system

So why should it be this way for everyone when you can easily set these challenges for yourself? People who are not as proficient as you and your friends already aquire weapons and gear at a much slower rate.

they get it at a much faster rate actually.

for example "back in my day"

we had Recruit, Vet, and Specter only.

What this means is to unlock 2 rare weapons we needed 120k credits
Now there are PSPs which means you get them for 99k credits.

Also challenges were bi-weekly not weekly meaning earning guns took twice as long (for N7 weapons)

We didn't have JEPs, so gels and missiles were hard to come by.

We didn't get extraction bonus. 75k was the max we could earn Now you can earn 150k max (we dind't have platinum) Every difficulty nets you more money now.

They gave eveyrone a harrier on N7 day, we ddin't even have a harrier. the best thing we had was a claymore and/or GPS

I played then also, and I have no desire to go back to it. As of right now, the lower your skill level, the less you make, and the slower things unlock. The only people this would hurt would be new players, I just don't see a valid reason to do it.

to reward for loyal gamers? Its the same for pre-order bonus's why souldn't someone who pre-orders and buys it day 1 get a reward. its not fair for someone to but it used for 20 buks 6 months later and get the same reward because they are new.

Ok , I am being trolled here. Stupid me for not seeing it earlier.

If tahts how u feel i'm sorry you are too self centered to see what my point is. The game isn't about me or you individually. Its about rewarding skilled and loyal players. Not making it easy for someone who just picks it up to solo platinum becuase they complain its too hardso BW should change it to help them.

People with your mindset ruin video games

How does giving 1 weapon per week to a new player inable them to easily solo platinum. This is just getting dumb.

[upinya slayin]

bjiogyof icyr wrote...

At this point in the games lifespan introducing harder challenges that might potentially alienate part of the playerbase would be counterprodictive imo

possibly, or it might bring back "retired" loyal players giving them soemthing to work towards. new players aren't gonna quit over a challenge weekend. They still ahve plenty to work for

[Commander Coriander Salamander]

I think the problem here is most people don't understand the purpose of the weekend challenges. Rather then being a test of skill, it's a mechanic that keeps players coming back to continue playing the game week after week for an extended period of time. If the weekend challenges were exceedingly difficult to complete then there would be less incentive for the average player to come back and continue playing, not some sort of measure of skill that needs to be balanced.

Like others have said in this thread if you want a challenge there are other avenues to pursue that interest. (Has anyone done a lvl. 1, no points spent, volus platinum solo using common weapons and no consumables and equipment?)