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[OneMore1968]

whateverman7 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Do you ever know how to read and comprehend a statement? cause your always way out in left field by yourself. Must be lonely out there:whistle:

lol if you say so...you're asking for tougher challenges and another reward cause you've invested more time in the game....ok, cool...what i said was that they wouldnt limit the tougher challenges to a select few, they would be available for everyone, so you still not getting 'more' like you're asking....cause i already know, we'll get a thread telling about how it rubs you the wrong way that people you think havent invested as much as you are getting the same rewards....need evidence of that? look back at your posts in this thread....

and naw, i'm not lonely...you'd be surprised how many people are out here in left field with me

are you mad bro'

[upinya slayin]

whateverman7 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Do you ever know how to read and comprehend a statement? cause your always way out in left field by yourself. Must be lonely out there:whistle:

lol if you say so...you're asking for tougher challenges and another reward cause you've invested more time in the game....ok, cool...what i said was that they wouldnt limit the tougher challenges to a select few, they would be available for everyone, so you still not getting 'more' like you're asking....cause i already know, we'll get a thread telling about how it rubs you the wrong way that people you think havent invested as much as you are getting the same rewards....need evidence of that? look back at your posts in this thread....

and naw, i'm not lonely...you'd be surprised how many people are out here in left field with me

I've never once ever said it rubs me the wrong way for people to get rewards i don't. or for people to even get the same rewards as me. I love how you just make some stuff up. but w/e go ahead and pspread lies. I can care less about what you think about me and i'm not gonna argue the point. i just laugh at people like you

I will elaborate on what i said since you can't comprehend a sentence. I'm only asking for teh challenges to be challenging, and i said if some people can't complete it casue its too hard , i know it sucks for them but thats part of being new at something. like i stated before people who have played ACb and ABR got MP skins i dind't get becuase i didn't play those games. they were handed out as a loyalty bonus. and i'm ok with it. They deserve it more then me. some people can't grasp that they don't deserve everything.

[whateverman7]

Carlina wrote...

are you mad bro'

naw, far from it...i enjoy life

[upinya slayin]

Carlina wrote...

whateverman7 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Do you ever know how to read and comprehend a statement? cause your always way out in left field by yourself. Must be lonely out there:whistle:

lol if you say so...you're asking for tougher challenges and another reward cause you've invested more time in the game....ok, cool...what i said was that they wouldnt limit the tougher challenges to a select few, they would be available for everyone, so you still not getting 'more' like you're asking....cause i already know, we'll get a thread telling about how it rubs you the wrong way that people you think havent invested as much as you are getting the same rewards....need evidence of that? look back at your posts in this thread....

and naw, i'm not lonely...you'd be surprised how many people are out here in left field with me

are you mad bro'

he always is. he just follows me and trolls me for some reaosn. makes me lol:whistle:

[Jackville Assington]

I am against this

[whateverman7]

upinya slayin wrote...

I've never once ever said it rubs me the wrong way for people to get rewards i don't. or for people to even get the same rewards as me. I love how you just make some stuff up. but w/e go ahead and pspread lies. I can care less about what you think about me and i'm not gonna argue the point. i just laugh at people like you

I will elaborate on what i said since you can't comprehend a sentence. I'm only asking for teh challenges to be challenging, and i said if some people can't complete it casue its too hard , i know it sucks for them but thats part of being new at something. like i stated before people who have played ACb and ABR got MP skins i dind't get becuase i didn't play those games. they were handed out as a loyalty bonus. and i'm ok with it. They deserve it more then me. some people can't grasp that they don't deserve everything.

i've only gone off what you're posted....it was you that said challenges are too easy now, and it's not fair because when you first started there were 'tougher' challenges; some that you couldnt complete....did you not?....i've just pointed out that none of the indidvual challenges (reward of a promotional weapon) have been hard, it was the community challenges that were....you disagree, so i ask you: give me an example of a 'tough' individvual challenge that we've had?

by the way: i have no reason to spread lies about you...i dont do that dumb ****....also, i dont think anyway about you....all i know about you is you play the same game i do, that's about it....that makes you cool with me...for some reason though, you take me disagreeing with you as personal attacks....what makes it funny is i've agreed with you at times too, but you ignore those

[upinya slayin]

whateverman7 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

I've never once ever said it rubs me the wrong way for people to get rewards i don't. or for people to even get the same rewards as me. I love how you just make some stuff up. but w/e go ahead and pspread lies. I can care less about what you think about me and i'm not gonna argue the point. i just laugh at people like you

I will elaborate on what i said since you can't comprehend a sentence. I'm only asking for teh challenges to be challenging, and i said if some people can't complete it casue its too hard , i know it sucks for them but thats part of being new at something. like i stated before people who have played ACb and ABR got MP skins i dind't get becuase i didn't play those games. they were handed out as a loyalty bonus. and i'm ok with it. They deserve it more then me. some people can't grasp that they don't deserve everything.

i've only gone off what you're posted....it was you that said challenges are too easy now, and it's not fair because when you first started there were 'tougher' challenges; some that you couldnt complete....did you not?....i've just pointed out that none of the indidvual challenges (reward of a promotional weapon) have been hard, it was the community challenges that were....you disagree, so i ask you: give me an example of a 'tough' individvual challenge that we've had?

by the way: i have no reason to spread lies about you...i dont do that dumb ****....also, i dont think anyway about you....all i know about you is you play the same game i do, that's about it....that makes you cool with me...for some reason though, you take me disagreeing with you as personal attacks....what makes it funny is i've agreed with you at times too, but you ignore those

I didn't say it wasn't fair at all. I said i was ok with not being able to do them and with players better then me getting a reward taht i didn't get cause i couldn't earn it. I said it was better cause it was a challenge. it gave players somehting to work for and you get a sense of accomplishment and a reward.

and a tough individual was extracting on gold. alot of people can't do it. there was also one for extracting w/o using any consumables. no missiles, no gels, no ops etc.

and i don't ignore anything. i don't pay much attention to alot of stuff. but a few posters regularly show up in my threads being all negative and attacking. your one of them. you also atatcked a bunch of arelex memebrs in another thread about speed running calling us DBs and such. but hey lets pretend that never happened either

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

eduardogranja wrote...

So they won't kick you for being a noob (and how would they know?) but they probably won't get you extracted, either.

I already tried joining and i was kicked. The first time, the team said that "someone with this level of weapon should be playing silver/bronze". I'd probably get carried anyway, and it would be no fun for them. What's the point of a co-op game if not the entire squad is having fun? I will stay on Silver until my manifest is better

You could try PMing a good player after a failed extraction. Politely asking for help while respecting a player's skills can inspire a stranger to take you a along for a successful extraction (I know because I've done it).

I don't trust my english skills enough for that. Writing? good to go. Speaking? Not yet.

I shouldn't have said it in quite such absolute terms. For sure, you will run into players who will suggest you go back to Silver with your manifest (which is fine, they're not necessarily judging you), or even kick you for having a low level weapon.

In fact, some of them will even come here and complain about it, as though it makes you look bad for trying (it doesn't, it makes them look petty).

But for now, you wouldn't have to worry as much as you think you would about being carried, because most of the people around you will be in the same boat.

In fact, as things settle, vet players are likely to start playing PuGs more and won't mind carrying the occasional newbie.

And Text chat would probably work fine for PMing someone. Your written english is fine, I didn't notice it wasn't your first language.

Anyway, good luck with the PuGing, if you find yourself in Gold, here's hoping you run into more good eggs than bad. 

Modifié par Jeremiah12LGeek, 17 janvier 2013 - 04:13 .

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

whateverman7 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Do you ever know how to read and comprehend a statement? cause your always way out in left field by yourself. Must be lonely out there:whistle:

lol if you say so...you're asking for tougher challenges and another reward cause you've invested more time in the game....ok, cool...what i said was that they wouldnt limit the tougher challenges to a select few, they would be available for everyone, so you still not getting 'more' like you're asking....cause i already know, we'll get a thread telling about how it rubs you the wrong way that people you think havent invested as much as you are getting the same rewards....need evidence of that? look back at your posts in this thread....

and naw, i'm not lonely...you'd be surprised how many people are out here in left field with me

That was me. I can quote it for you, if you'd like.

"When I came back after three months, I was a little disappointed that many people had matched my Promo Weapon Awards with a fraction the effort."

I'm paraphrasing a little.

"a little disappointed."

Somehow that doesn't feel like I made a complaint thread, and neither did Upinya.

Modifié par Jeremiah12LGeek, 16 janvier 2013 - 07:32 .

[whateverman7]

upinya slayin wrote...

I didn't say it wasn't fair at all. I said i was ok with not being able to do them and with players better then me getting a reward taht i didn't get cause i couldn't earn it. I said it was better cause it was a challenge. it gave players somehting to work for and you get a sense of accomplishment and a reward.

and a tough individual was extracting on gold. alot of people can't do it. there was also one for extracting w/o using any consumables. no missiles, no gels, no ops etc.

and i don't ignore anything. i don't pay much attention to alot of stuff. but a few posters regularly show up in my threads being all negative and attacking. your one of them. you also atatcked a bunch of arelex memebrs in another thread about speed running calling us DBs and such. but hey lets pretend that never happened either

those arent good examples....extracting on gold wasnt hard then....if i recall, wasnt it any extraction on gold?....also, neither was the not using any consumables, especially since you could play whatever difficulty...the hard part about that was no one on your team could use 1, so you had to trust your teammates

so you dont pay attention to a lot of stuff, but you always notice when i disagree with you? lol ok....now you're the one making things up...cause yes, i recall the thread about spreedrunning....i disagreed about spreedrunning proving whether or not you were skilled at the game (if you could, you are; if you cant, you arent)....but i didnt attack nor call anyone dbs (i dont use that)...dont believe me, ask luckybullet(think that's the name), cause that was the person i disagreed with....

[whateverman7]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

That was me. I can quote it for you, if you'd like.

"When I came back after three months, I was a little disappointed that many people had matched my Promo Weapon Awards with a fraction the effort."

I'm paraphrasing a little.

"a little disappointed."

Somehow that doesn't feel like I made a complaint thread, and neither did Upinya.

since you say that was you, i apologize to upinya...

as for saying whether it makes it a complaint thread or not, is relative...i see it as complaining, you probably see it as venting....which is cool...i never once said it was a problem, i just disagreed with your opinion

[upinya slayin]

whateverman7 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

I didn't say it wasn't fair at all. I said i was ok with not being able to do them and with players better then me getting a reward taht i didn't get cause i couldn't earn it. I said it was better cause it was a challenge. it gave players somehting to work for and you get a sense of accomplishment and a reward.

and a tough individual was extracting on gold. alot of people can't do it. there was also one for extracting w/o using any consumables. no missiles, no gels, no ops etc.

and i don't ignore anything. i don't pay much attention to alot of stuff. but a few posters regularly show up in my threads being all negative and attacking. your one of them. you also atatcked a bunch of arelex memebrs in another thread about speed running calling us DBs and such. but hey lets pretend that never happened either

those arent good examples....extracting on gold wasnt hard then....if i recall, wasnt it any extraction on gold?....also, neither was the not using any consumables, especially since you could play whatever difficulty...the hard part about that was no one on your team could use 1, so you had to trust your teammates

so you dont pay attention to a lot of stuff, but you always notice when i disagree with you? lol ok....now you're the one making things up...cause yes, i recall the thread about spreedrunning....i disagreed about spreedrunning proving whether or not you were skilled at the game (if you could, you are; if you cant, you arent)....but i didnt attack nor call anyone dbs (i dont use that)...dont believe me, ask luckybullet(think that's the name), cause that was the person i disagreed with....

so keep ignoring the fact you "called me out" on somehting i never said. I'm not ignoring anything. is a gold extraction hard for me? no but it is for some people. none of the challenges now provide any difficulty for anyone.

[Dup3r]

One of the problems with making the weekend challenges "more complex" is that Bryan and crew spent the next week and a half trying to clarify instructions.

This way. folks can get the special N7 weapons more readily. Especially new players; which there seems to be a lot of these days.

If you want these to be more challenging, do a game on gold or plat with one weapon of your choice with limited gear. Host a game with freinds from your network and just set up some rules like that.

Run around an only melee things with Volus.. I dunno.

Modifié par Dup3r, 16 janvier 2013 - 07:49 .

[The Renegade Fem-Shep]

 Need a valentine's day one: Survive one sync kill and five husk grabs.

[sirus1988]

Gold Extract challenge with only a predator?.... BRING IT ON!!!

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Morugatu wrote...

 Need a valentine's day one: Survive one sync kill and five husk grabs.

Give Aunt Screechy a Hug!

[whateverman7]

upinya slayin wrote...

so keep ignoring the fact you "called me out" on somehting i never said. I'm not ignoring anything. is a gold extraction hard for me? no but it is for some people. none of the challenges now provide any difficulty for anyone.

i apologized to you in the post directly above yours, but i guess that's you not paying attention a lot of the time....since you didnt see it there, here you go: i apologize...

[upinya slayin]

Dup3r wrote...

One of the problems with making the weekend challenges "more complex" is that Bryan and crew spent the next week and a half trying to clarify instructions.

This way. folks can get the special N7 weapons more readily. Especially new players; which there seems to be a lot of these days.

If you want these to be more challenging, do a game on gold or plat with one weapon of your choice with limited gear. Host a game with freinds from your network and just set up some rules like that.

Run around an only melee things with Volus.. I dunno.

a 20 headshot medal for instance at leasy gives variety, can be done on any kit any dificulty and can be easily tracked.

[upinya slayin]

whateverman7 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

so keep ignoring the fact you "called me out" on somehting i never said. I'm not ignoring anything. is a gold extraction hard for me? no but it is for some people. none of the challenges now provide any difficulty for anyone.

i apologized to you in the post directly above yours, but i guess that's you not paying attention a lot of the time....since you didnt see it there, here you go: i apologize...

I posted that before your post (well i mean i was in the reply screen before it was in the thread) anyway apology accepted. its all good.

and even in your apolgy you accuse me of not paying attention w/o knowing the situation. don't asume things. lets just drop it cause i'm not gonna respond to any more immature comments of yours attacking me

[IIFlash]

vonSlash wrote...

IIFlash wrote...

Quikraptor wrote...

All you're doing is giving rewards to the people who've already nearly maxed out their manifests, or HAVE done so. Those are NOT the people who deserve rewards.

So your saying the people that have supported this game since launch do not deserve rewards. 

That's not actually what he said. His point was that the Commendation packs (usually) provide powerful new weapons, and people who haven't completed their arsenal need the benefits provided by these weapons more so than someone who has every UR at X.

Maybe you should read his post again because that is exactly what he said, at the top of page 6.
I snipped the rest because it was bulls**t. As I stated in another post he probably made a bad choice of words, another poster also wrote that he probably meant need, which woud be true since a N7 weapon would benefit a new player more.

[IIFlash]

eduardogranja wrote...

IIFlash wrote...

Also a lot of people are saying that harder challenges would isolate new players, please explain to me how the recent "easy" challenge to get 50k? points with the Flamer doesn't isolate players that don't have a Vorcha or the Geth Trooper unlocked yet............???

EDIT: I am not necessarily saying I support OP's suggestions either
EDIT: Challenge I mentioned above is Operation Blast Furnace

"Individual Goal: [/b]Earn 75000 points of damage using fire-based powers (Incinerate, Carnage, Inferno Grenade, Flamer, Sentry Turret Flamethrower, Geth Turret Flamethrower) on any map at any difficulty. Points are cumulative across matches. Extraction not required."

That''s the description on the Bioware blog. You could complete it even with the base human characters

My mistake , obviously don't remember it as well as I thought, this is what happens when it's completed in 15 mins

[Aytanay]

Nissun wrote...

We need another "entire squad of the same species" challenge.

That would be fun. If I still had people to play with me I wouldn't need a challenge for that, but missing the first, may the challenges come!

[N172]

upinya slayin wrote...

and i understand that. someone sugest a two tiered challenge. an "easy one" that eveyrone can do for one N7 unlock and a "harder" one that is actually a challenge for a 2nd N7 unlock

The point is if BW was gonna reward anyone it should be those who have invested hundreds of hours already and not those eho just got the game (no offense) but loyalty deserves more bonus IMO.

That is just another repaint of "I want to get more than other players", this time with 2 and 1 instead of 1 and 0.

You can play bronze 10 times to get an amount of credits equal to platinum.
You need more time ingame but everyone can get the same stuff regardless of the difficulty they play on.

The operations are different.
You cannot just do them several times to get the reward several times.
If you miss/fail one you are one week behind, no matter what you do.

You already get everything else in much less ingame-time as a gold/platinum player than bronze/silver players.
There is no need to add Promo-weapons on top of that!

I remember the one time it required to be on gold. It was really bad, everyone was swarming gold (there was no platinum at the time), even two games of WGG (i whould guess 90% were WGG when that operation was running, much more than before and afterwards) failed at that weekend.
Actually it whould not be an issue for me now because my FL has a large amount of gold-viable players, but any operation that gives more reward when you play gold will annihilate public gold.

Anyway, what is that about deserving more stuff because of higher difficulty?
Its not like Bioware makes more profit because you play platinum/gold/silver instead of gold/silver/bronze.
It is better for them if you bought the game day 1 and the promo-stuff exists to reward that.

tl;dr: You just want more stuff, operations do not work like regualar games where higher difficulty = more credits, difficulties above silver are really bad as requirement for an operation. You do not deserve anything for playing a game.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

N172 wrote...

<snip>

Anyway, what is that about deserving more stuff because of higher difficulty?

<snip>

tl;dr: You just want more stuff, operations do not work like regualar games where higher difficulty = more credits, difficulties above silver are really bad as requirement for an operation. You do not deserve anything for playing a game.

Not sure if he's still being impersonated by that dasterdly model.

You imply Upinya Slayin said that players who play on higher difficulties deserve greater rewards. Having read both threads (this and the other on same topic) many times, I know he never said that.

I have stated several times that Weekend Ops that are more diifficult are more rewarding to play? Perhaps you are referring to one of those occasions? If so, I never said people who play on higher difficulties are inherently more deserving.

And I don't "want more stuff", since never, when I have argued in favour of making Weekend Operations more difficult, have I said they should add more promo weapons.

In fact, at least once I suggested they add no more than what used to be in the community goal reward packs. And that was already part of the game, once, so it's hardly asking for "more stuff."

And if, as you say, we don't deserve anything for "just playing the game", why do new players deserve something for "just playing the game?"

I'm not saying they do or they don't, I'm just pointing out that you are saying both.

[ill_eyggro]

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