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swjobson

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 Once I unlocked the Destroyer I generally stopped playing everything else. I like the weapons in this game, and the Destroyer is the top weapons platform. After testing all of the weapons I've unlocked so far (missing a few inferior items, like Valk) and the Argus is clearly the best for all major categories. 

DAMAGE OUTPUT:
Base: 206
Powers: +57.5%
Sum: 324.45
Items: +75% of base (Rail3+Ammo3+Gear5) 
Max: 478.95 


Fire Rate: 500 RPM 
Powers: +25%
Sum/Max: 625 RPM


Base DPS: 1716.7 (rounded)
Sum DPS: 3379.7 (rounded) 
Final DPS: 4989.1 (rounded)

With level 4 items, or headshots, it gets even higher. The damage is high enough that the Extended Barrel mod is not required. Instead, effective output is increased from the Recoil Stability mod to land more shots. You're rarely shooting nonstop on Gold/Plat, but during times where you can fire for extended periods this assault rifle is far superior to all other weapons. 

The Destroyer's Devestator Mode also adds +25% to accuracy, which makes accuracy from cover effective for headshots any range. Out of cover it's still effective at medium or close range.

Spare ammo is approximately twice what the Harrier has, so you don't have to squat on ammo boxes. 

The second weapon mod is free for preference. I like the Magazine mod; since Devestator Mode adds 20%, it flatly doubles the magazine size. Either scope is also really good.

Modifié par swjobson, 15 janvier 2013 - 08:35 .


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Ramsutin

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GI>Destroyer, Harrier>Argus.

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swjobson wrote...

and the Destroyer is the top weapons platform


LOL :lol:

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xxrpggamemanxx

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wut...

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Argus DPS I/X: 555.51/694.38
Harrier DPS I/X: 973.5/1,187.08

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OP has never heard of a GI I take it.

Also numbers =/= actual in-game usefulness. Not to mention that you're just plain wrong, but arguing numbers is dumb.

Modifié par Lord_Sirian, 15 janvier 2013 - 08:36 .


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OblivionDawn

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This thread, it tickles my funnybone.

Also,

Ramsutin wrote...

GI>Destroyer, Harrier>Argus.


Modifié par OblivionDawn, 15 janvier 2013 - 08:37 .


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swjobson

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Ramsutin wrote...

GI>Destroyer, Harrier>Argus.

no.

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buthane22

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Male quarian soldier with full passive and TS specced correcly has a better damage output.

And for Argus, Stability and piercing is pretty much mandatory imo.

But you're right about it being better than the harrier, tough Harrier is full auto, which is great.

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Ramsutin

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swjobson wrote...

Ramsutin wrote...

GI>Destroyer, Harrier>Argus.

no.

Explain

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LOL. Argus has less DPS, burst fire, high recoil and also heavier. Argus is only good on a Turian. Harrier is good on anything.

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Your numbers are wrong. You're not taking into account refire time.

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GeneralMoskvin_2.0

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Ahem. Harrier = ****** easy to use.

Argus = dat recoil.

And that makes the major difference.

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GI>Turian Soldier ~ Quarian Soldier> Destroyer
PPR>Harrier>>Argus

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LOL

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swjobson

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buthane22 wrote...

Male quarian soldier with full passive and TS specced correcly has a better damage output.

And for Argus, Stability and piercing is pretty much mandatory imo.

But you're right about it being better than the harrier, tough Harrier is full auto, which is great.

MQS lacks improved RoF and accuracy. Full auto makes Harrier less accurate, not to mention the low amount of spare ammo. 

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Pyth the Bull

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You like the Argus. We get it.

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GeneralMoskvin_2.0 wrote...

Ahem. Harrier = ****** easy to use.

Argus = dat recoil.

And that makes the major difference.

 

Yes of course it has nothing to do with the significantly lower DPS or the fact that the Argus is a burst fire weapon. :wizard:

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swjobson

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Ramsutin wrote...

swjobson wrote...

Ramsutin wrote...

GI>Destroyer, Harrier>Argus.

no.

Explain

My response was suited to your comment. TLDR: you first. 

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harrier is higher dps , more stable, more accurate and is about the same weight,

so how are you saying argus is better? Ammo capacity? LOL

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Ramsutin

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You still haven't explained OP
1) That where you got your wrong info
2) Why GI isn't better weapons platform than Destroyer

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swjobson wrote...

MQS lacks improved RoF and accuracy. Full auto makes Harrier less accurate, not to mention the low amount of spare ammo.

 

:lol: 

This has to be a troll. Right guys?

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swjobson wrote...

MQS lacks improved RoF and accuracy. Full auto makes Harrier less accurate, not to mention the low amount of spare ammo. 


:blink:

Edit: :ph34r:'ed...

Modifié par spudspot, 15 janvier 2013 - 08:43 .


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GeneralMoskvin_2.0

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

GeneralMoskvin_2.0 wrote...

Ahem. Harrier = ****** easy to use.

Argus = dat recoil.

And that makes the major difference.

 

Yes of course it has nothing to do with the significantly lower DPS or the fact that the Argus is a burst fire weapon. :wizard:


That also. Argus may be treated more like a....shotgun. That thing is an assault rilfe shotgun pretty much to me. Horrible spread and slow firing. 

Also, why do you pursue me? ;_;

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Go home OP, you're drunk.