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#51
Jay_Hoxtatron

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swjobson wrote...

When you have Scan on one target, Marksman is efective. Still, you have to spend time to set it up. Then, assuming someone else didn't kill it and you did, you don't get the Scan bonus until you use it again, meaning Marksman has to expire... like I said, it's a terrible kit if you want to shoot things. All Scan builds are support. And Cloak is, at best, 1/3 of the time assuming you are sustaining constant fire for an extended period. Good luck with that.


Doing it wrong and all that jazz.

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Annomander wrote...

OP, if you think the Argus is good on the destroyer, slap a hurricane VIII with EM + heat sink and AP IV on him. Oh, so you just one clipped an atlas on gold? Yeah.

Same goes for the GI, GI can one clip an atlas using the hurricane; its possible on the geth trooper weapons platform but rare as you need a ridiculously high ammo return on the heat sink.


Possible with the Quarian Marksman as well if you tac scan the atlas.

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Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

swjobson wrote...

When you have Scan on one target, Marksman is efective. Still, you have to spend time to set it up. Then, assuming someone else didn't kill it and you did, you don't get the Scan bonus until you use it again, meaning Marksman has to expire... like I said, it's a terrible kit if you want to shoot things. All Scan builds are support. And Cloak is, at best, 1/3 of the time assuming you are sustaining constant fire for an extended period. Good luck with that.


Doing it wrong and all that jazz.


Just out of curiosity, how do you use Tac Scan?  I haven't used that character very much, much less the ability, so I just want to know what sort of ways are effective to get the best results.

#54
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All the Argus can do the Harrier do it faster.

so, no.

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Mandalorian444 wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

swjobson wrote...

When you have Scan on one target, Marksman is efective. Still, you have to spend time to set it up. Then, assuming someone else didn't kill it and you did, you don't get the Scan bonus until you use it again, meaning Marksman has to expire... like I said, it's a terrible kit if you want to shoot things. All Scan builds are support. And Cloak is, at best, 1/3 of the time assuming you are sustaining constant fire for an extended period. Good luck with that.


Doing it wrong and all that jazz.


Just out of curiosity, how do you use Tac Scan?  I haven't used that character very much, much less the ability, so I just want to know what sort of ways are effective to get the best results.


Trashkill with Marksman. On bosses, TacScan first, then shoot+Marksman.

Don't bother Tacscanning non-bosses, it's a waste of time.

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Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Trashkill with Marksman. On bosses, TacScan first, then shoot+Marksman.

Don't bother Tacscanning non-bosses, it's a waste of time.


Thanks.  I'll have to try that next time I get on.  Something new.  :D

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Sustained DPS is worthless to me. I want all the damage right now so whatever is directly in front of me dies almost instantaneously. That's all I care about.

OP, what platform are you on? I'm a PC player, I'd be interested in seeing how you use this setup.

Modifié par lightswitch, 15 janvier 2013 - 09:21 .


#58
upinya slayin

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the argus sucks and needs a buff. its the worst rare AR in the game by far. even the uncommon mattock is better

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Shin_Seijurou wrote...

Go home OP, you're drunk.



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swjobson wrote...

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buthane22 wrote...

Male quarian soldier with full passive and TS specced correcly has a better damage output.

And for Argus, Stability and piercing is pretty much mandatory imo.

But you're right about it being better than the harrier, tough Harrier is full auto, which is great.

MQS lacks improved RoF and accuracy. Full auto makes Harrier less accurate, not to mention the low amount of spare ammo. 

Marksman? you heard of that ability?
GI, you know, with the giant Damage boost from tac cloak, and the RoF and accuracy boosts from hunter mode, AND the passives?
Did you actually crunch the numbers with anythingelse to prove yourself right, or did you just crunch the numbers for your current build?
Numbers without comparison numbers really don`t mean anything.

The lag between using Scan and Marksman and between waiting for Marksman to expire/cooldown and another Scan interfers with attacking. It's a terrible kit. The Geth Inf only gets a Cloak bonus that would benefit the first two or three Argus bursts, ruining sustained damage. 


With proxy mine and hunter mode I'm pretty sure GI does more damage than destroyer anyways.

No. I've tried all of these things. The worst part is when you miss with the mine (including enemy evading your placement), or time spent getting closer to improve your mine accuracy. The Destroyer just shoots the gun; simple and effective. 


DM + destroyer passive = 57.5% damage buff, max 35% bigger magazine, max 25% accuracy bonus, max 25% RoF bonus.  Hunter mode, proxy mine an geth passive gives 60% bonus damage (70 if using a geth weapon), 15% bonus accuracy, 15% faster RoF and 10% faster movement speed, as well as the ability to see enemies through walls/smoke.  That doesn't include the extra 80% damage from cloak.  GI does more damage, and seeing as you can't get all those bonuses out of DM anyways I'd say GI is the better weapons platform even before cloak.

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Shin_Seijurou wrote...

Go home OP, you're drunk.


Hahahahaha

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:ph34r:[Violation of Rule #6 removed]:ph34r:

Modifié par Ninja Stan, 16 janvier 2013 - 04:26 .


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upinya slayin wrote...

the argus sucks and needs a buff. its the worst rare AR in the game by far. even the uncommon mattock is better


God yes! I was using it last night in the name of completing the challenge, I'm sure I ended up with just as much score from Turian Proximity mine as I did from the Argus with AP ammo 3 and amp :(


The minimum refire time makes marksman feel almost useless too apart from it reigning in it's very average accuracy.

Instantly became one of my most disliked AR's I imagine I'd prefer the Phaeston.

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lightswitch wrote...

Sustained DPS is worthless to me. I want all the damage right now so whatever is directly in front of me dies almost instantaneously. That's all I care about.

OP, what platform are you on? I'm a PC player, I'd be interested in seeing how you use this setup.

Nice one :)

#65
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Either OP is drunk or has been in a fight with Ivan Drago.

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Ledgend1221

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OP: You're wrong.

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mrcanada

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Ya no.

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palmof40sorrows

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swjobson wrote...

Ramsutin wrote...

GI>Destroyer, Harrier>Argus.

no.


Yes. x2

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OP, I like my guns to be decently accurate and not have ridiculous kick.

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Surely you jest.

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MzAdventure

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OP:  um... no.  Just no.

Modifié par victoriakm, 15 janvier 2013 - 10:30 .


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I can compensate for the stability and accuracy issues but the Argus refire time is slower than old people running uphill in knee deep sand.

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Tallgeese_VII

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What is the meaning of this !

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.... I used the argus on the TGI, and well, the dmg output is nice, but still would go harrier 120% of the time. Also, destroyer<TGI<GI.

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Air Quotes wrote...

LOL. Argus has less DPS, burst fire, high recoil and also heavier. Argus is only good on a Turian. Harrier is good on anything.



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