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[Ernest Ixen]

Just a question that will impact my buying decision.
 

[HippyJoe]

Oh Hell Nah! Mass Effect is BIOware's Baby, trust me they are defiantely doing all they can to make this the best game of 2009, and as a matter of fact, i think it already is. No doubt in my mind.

[Taiko Roshi]

Ernest Ixen wrote...

Just a question that will impact my buying decision.
 

Don't hold you breath. If its got EA on the box ME2 will have the same support as DA:O. 

[SkaTeeB]

I think we'll get the same nonexistent support we've already gotten, unless you just decide not to buy ME2, which would be tough.



I can't believe how bad Bioware's gotten. It's like they can't even support their games any more. Well, the console versions anyway.

[Eragondragonrider]

My answer to this is yes, Mass Effect was the same way buggy, no DLCs that where all that great released and customer service/support no there, go look at the ME1 forums.

[PiMD360]

ME2 for this year is low on my list, plus I have yet to reacquire the first game and play Pinnacle Station + replay for a better save for ME2.

My list of games this year according to release date and me actually picking them up goes something like this:

(Still playing Borderlands and Sabotuer, and then DA:O after a patch). By that time I will be ready for ALAN Wake, Fallout New Vegas, Arkham Asylum 2, Red Dead Redemption, Zelda II Wii, Mass Effect 2, and then Bioshock 2.

Modifié par PiMD360, 08 janvier 2010 - 04:33 .

[HippyJoe]

WOW! I am so Disapointed in all of you, no offense, but Mass Effect 1 was Fudging Incredible, Not One single Problem with it in my book, and i play console versions only, My PC cant Handle games this awesome. Unless your simply talking about "support" and not the actual gameplay or the game itself and whatnot. I can't believe this, and no i have never ever, ever visited a Mass Effect forum, nor have i ever had the need to, like i said no problems whatsoever with the game, and no need to say how great it was until now. Also EA does terribly suck, HUGE,VERY HUGE mistake on BIOware's part.

[HippyJoe]

oh yeah and a typo in my first post here, I meant 2010, lol

[Eragondragonrider]

HippyJoe wrote...

WOW! I am so Disapointed in all of you, no offense, but Mass Effect 1 was Fudging Incredible, Not One single Problem with it in my book, and i play console versions only, My PC cant Handle games this awesome. Unless your simply talking about "support" and not the actual gameplay or the game itself and whatnot. I can't believe this, and no i have never ever, ever visited a Mass Effect forum, nor have i ever had the need to, like i said no problems whatsoever with the game, and no need to say how great it was until now. Also EA does terribly suck, HUGE,VERY HUGE mistake on BIOware's part.

I personally liked mass effect myself still play it, there was no problems I could tell with the main game, but the last DLC released was not the best quality. My biggest problem right now is that we are getting no feed back from BIoware about know issue with the XBOX version of DA and that we have to wait for RTO DLC to get the patch we need to fix some of the issues with the game. EA is just pointless for asking help from, they just direct you back here. I think if we are experiencing these kind of problems with DA, whats to say ME2 support will be any better.

[dfjdejulio]

...unless you just decide not to buy ME2, which would be tough.

I will be buying ME2.

However.

If ME2 doesn't improve on DA:O, in terms of support (eg. title updates actually happen) and integration with "EA Social" (eg. it better not interfere with startup, mess up downloads, or corrupt saves), then I won't be buying "DA:O Awakening" or ME3.

BioWare games have been great, and I've enjoyed them for years now, but "DA:O" really fills me with fear that EA is intent to ruin them, and they get one more chance to convince me that's not the case.  If they fail, I can't bear to go down with the ship, and ME2 will be the end.

[JanHenDAO]

Might be a stupid question, but did they even release a mass effect patch for the 360 version?

[Lohe]

I asked already in the german forum whos the (port) developer, the publisher and so on. I didnt get an (official) answer. All answers were good, but left several things open.

So I tend to say: Yes it will be the same as on DAO. Wake up, your dream is over.

Modifié par Lohe, 09 janvier 2010 - 02:21 .

[DracoFulcrum]

Don't care, just pre-ordered the collecters ME2. Played the first way to much, I need a fix. It's a totally different base engine, yes you travel around and talk, but the combat was way better in ME, now if they changed it then they are stupid.

[Eragondragonrider]

JanHenDAO wrote...

Might be a stupid question, but did they even release a mass effect patch for the 360 version?

Yes I have received a patch for it with the new DLC came out, since then no

[Repton15]

SkaTeeB wrote...

I think we'll get the same nonexistent support we've already gotten, unless you just decide not to buy ME2, which would be tough.

Now that would just be cutting off your nose to spite your face!

A much better solution is to wait until it's in the bargain bin for next to nothing, and then buy it. Which is now my philosophy on anything that has Bioware/EA on the label.

In the meantime I'll just soldier on with Divinity 2, which imo is a much better game than D.A:O anyway.

[Lohe]

I have discussed with several friends of me about retail games. We came to the conclusion that its all about money. For example. Lets take those indiegames on the XBL marketplace. Nearby every Game developer is available without problems - on Twitter, on Facebook, or directly on their homepages, which even have got the .com-tag...Just fire your question away (any one), and youll get an answer. Sure, those developers arent as big as the ones we are talking about, but thats how support has to be and how support was the last year. Unfortunately it changed. But not everywhere. Petroglyph for example has got a great support. Available for their customers. The way it should be. And it works for them. There are several other examples of companies Im sure and everyone knows at least one good game developer with good support. So its easy to walk a midway as it seems to me.

Well, I have learnt a lot from my DAO-buy. Its called "Lehrgeld" in germany - translated into the english language its something like "Without loosing money - you wont learn anything!". So I payed my "Lehrgeld" and have learnt my lesson. I also tend to wait next time for titles appear on the barbain bin. Its just about a few months and as a life-long gamer Ill survive any game I havent bought on the day of release, because there are still some left I havent played up now.

To face the reality on here...well...what to say if everything speaks for itself?

Modifié par Lohe, 09 janvier 2010 - 07:36 .

[Ernest Ixen]

HippyJoe-
I actually loved the First Mass Effect (it was a 20 buck buy with Bring down the sky included).  Matter of fact, it actually inspired my purchase of this game.  I had already had a bad experience with Bioware concerning NWN2 and their multitude of graphical and gameplay problems, but all was forgiven after playing ME.

I mean, it was the first game where I actually got, noticeable, credit for solving problems without killing everything that moved; Caster, Blaster, and Tank playstyles were represented in acceptable fashion, and quest interaction and impact lured me into 4-5 playthroughs.  None the less, I digress.

I was not around for the initial problems with ME1 (my copy patched the first time I played) so I have tried to give DA:O a few months to work out its kinks.  With that in mind, my primary concern was that the first ME was a tandem between Bioware (listed as a division of EA) and Microsoft Game studios (the guys who probably know the xbox the best).  In contrast, the second ME seems to only have EA and Bioware (which is not longer listed as a division... even though it kinda is...) plastered on the game box.

dfjdejulio-

You actually bring up a good point.  EA could actually be helping bioware hang itself.  They would not be the first company to get in bed with a smaller company for the sole purpose of putting them out of commission.  Furthermore, if EA could manage to get sole usage rights for most of the popular Pen and Paper RPGs, they would corner the market on yet another game genre

Honestly, however, I think bioware was loosing a few steps before they landed a spot on EA's dance card.  In other words, I don't really care whose fault it is.

Lohe-

First, thank you for your input about the porter... hmm, that sounds wrong...  

I have not done much research on that other than taking a look at GameFAQs and the stock product description.

Concerning my dream:

I am a skeptic and a cynic 75% of the time, but the other 25% of the time I'm borderline romantic.  So, I don't dream that much.  That being said, I would like to know if the Bioware/EA couple thinks it will be able to survive by just supporting PC gamers (keeping in mind that the Console gamers will have to pay 10 bucks extra).

Concerning "Lehrgeld":

You make yet another good point, but I've yet to see anything of ME2.  In my opinion, ME is like a cookie they have already baked once.  I only want to know if they are going to use a similar recipe, or will they try to use a recipe designed for PCs. 

Modifié par Ernest Ixen, 09 janvier 2010 - 07:42 .

[Lohe]

Lets hope that cokie tastes better than on DAO. Imo Bio should stay off from porters with no reps, except a few ones....titles barely anyone can remember. But thanks god there is a wikipedia on the net available for some of these titles lol.

Well, no need to blame EoR, i guess, each day without patch does its own, but I really hope, ME2 wont be such a mess like DAO. To be sure, Ill simply wait. I dont know how you console gamers are working in brain, but figuring problems out, handling around with system setups and such stuff simply belongs to the pc and its several setups. We just have the one and only system setup and a game should work like a harm on a console. Or have a look to the PS3 users over here...framerate issues. Well? Its a console too....There arent framerate issues generally!

Ah, I remember there were times on console games with nearby (!) bugfree games. Thats why Im most disappointed about spending 70Euros on this game. Time has changed and there are no signs that anybody is willed to change again. Thats why Im buying arcade games and indigames. They know what their customers want and they still know what happens if 15€ arent in their pocket by a few of their customers.

Have a look on Dungeon Adventure btw...

Modifié par Lohe, 09 janvier 2010 - 08:50 .

[DracoFulcrum]

Must of the time I rent first, but ME was such a blast that I got to take the risk on ME2.

[HippyJoe]

There is no reason to have any support from anyone on Mass Effect 2 because it will be a Flawless, Fullproof video game, no doubt, Please stop Bagging on Mass Effect 2 because of Dragon Age. BIOware obviously doesn't care about Dragon Age as much as they do Mass effect. Not that im saying Dragon Age is bad (except that you cant tell that it came from the guys who made Mass Effect by looking at the very sub-par graphics, and terrible ass bugs)

[Taiko Roshi]

HippyJoe wrote...

There is no reason to have any support from anyone on Mass Effect 2 because it will be a Flawless, Fullproof video game, no doubt, Please stop Bagging on Mass Effect 2 because of Dragon Age. BIOware obviously doesn't care about Dragon Age as much as they do Mass effect. Not that im saying Dragon Age is bad (except that you cant tell that it came from the guys who made Mass Effect by looking at the very sub-par graphics, and terrible ass bugs)

Ok nothing to see here but another insipid fanboy who believes in unicorns and that fairies live at the bottom of his/her garden.

[Veemel]

I think there is good reason to expect ME2 to be better. ME was developed for Xbox and later ported to PC => solid, no major bugs, one bad DLC. DA:O was developed for PC and ported to the box => A number of problems, poor support. ME2 I am not sure about since it is released for Xbox and PC at the same time, but I think it is developed for the Xbox and ported => should be solid.



Anyone have good knowledge on this?

[Lohe]

Lohe wrote...

So I tend to say: Yes it will be the same as on DAO. Wake up, your dream is over.

To renew my answer on this question.

[Chained_Creator]

All I care about is that they fixed the god-awful texture pop-in that has plagued the Unreal Engine since the beginning of time. (Please note the hyperbole.)

It was horrible in ME. Dev comments so far have me hopeful that they have fixed it.

If it's fixed, I will survive. (And consider my paid-off pre-order worth it.)

Modifié par Chained_Creator, 14 janvier 2010 - 08:17 .