Maxster_ wrote...
The Grey Nayr wrote...
XxBrokenBonezxX wrote...
The simple and cruel truth is; the Crucible makes zero ******* sense. It comes out of nowhere, and the backstory is so impossibly dumb, I can't fathom how someone would see it and say "Ya..that could work."
Makes sense to me. It's a battery that releases tremeandous amounts of energy. Liara, and Hackett's team could tell that pretty early on. Hell, even the Catalyst itself confirms that. All the Destruction, Controlling, Synthesizing is done by the Citadel, Reaper tech.
Sure.
Someone designed unknown device with unknown function, which should interface with another unknown device, with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location, unconfirmed existence or even need of it.
And all functionality of it is made by the reapers.
Makes sense, sure.
No one ever knew about Citadel being a relay into dark space and master control unit of a relay network, before reapers attack. And after reapers attack, no cycle had access to the Citadel, to study how this master control works.
But that doesn't stop them to design the device, which function based on master control unit of the relay network, and they have no idea how it even works.
Sure.
The crucible is the ultimate defiance against the Reapers. They've tried to eliminate it, but each cycle successfully passed on the blueprint to the next. And each improved on it. When Shepard uses it, it's not just him defeating the Reapers, it's every cycle they've ever destroyed saying "**** you."
Pure bull****.
It is impossible.
It means that there was at least 20000 coincideces of Crucible plans being found right after beginning of a reapers invasion.
It would be contived even if there was 2 such coincidences, but 20000 - it is plain nonsense and impossible.
As is improving device you have no idea what it does. That's bull****.
As for why they trust it. Desperation's a b!tch. They have nothing else, so why not take a chance on living if they're gonna die anyway?
*facedesk*
1. That person your talking about was Drew Karpyshyn. Because of it's Dark Energy-minipulating background, the Crucible was likely a part of the Dark Energy plot he had been writing. Meaning in actuality, the Crucible was a plot-point for the story since ME1.
And in numorus threads, we've gone back and forth about the Crucible not voiding the lore. Like for example, Vigil doesn't know about it because he was programed after Ilos went dark, so no information on anything. Just speculation.
And it's existance can be explained by one of the thousands of cycles finding out ahead of time the Reapers were coming, and building a countermeasure. Then, according to the Catalyst itself, one cycle found out that the Citadel coordinated Dark Energy Emmisons, and modified the Crucible to interface with the Citadel. And then, some other Race found out about his existance, (hence why the "missing part" was always called "The Catalyst.") but that information was quickly buried.
2. It was NOT unknown in the beginning. The original model didn't even INTERFACE with the Citadel. The Catalyst says that was a function added later.
The race the built it HAD a spicific goal and function in mind. I personally believe that was: Kill the Reapers with the one thing they cannot deflect - Dark Enegry.
Whatever the original function was ended up being buried or lost over the course of the cycles. Anyone that found it's plans likely saw the "last hope against the Reapers" tag it had, and assumed it was a Reaper-killing doomsday weapon.
And with thousands of cycles, you cannot say that none found out ahead of time. Not with certinty. The protheans, as stated by Javik, knew about the Reapers early, but their preperations weren't enough, or they didn't have enough time
to prepare.
So you cannot say that no race had no early warnings. After all, where's your proof?
3. What? Where are you getting that?
The Catalyst says the design croped up
several cycles ago. That can't be more then over a dozen. That's small compaired to the thousands of cycles there were.
So, only a dozen, or roughly a bit over, worked on the Crucible. And there is nothing saying that the each found the plans at the same time in their Cycle. You are appealing to a minor probabilaty by doing that.
Where the hell did you get "20,000 instances at the same time" from?
4. And that reason you "facedesk" at?
That's what made the turians and salarians give the krogan a genophage cure.
And what made Udina side with Cerberus.
And what made the quarians attack the geth, so that they could have somewhere save to put their Civilians.
And what made the geth side with the Reapers so that the quarians attack didn't kill them.
And what made the fleets attack Earth after the Reapers took the Citadel.
And what made the Allies even work on the Crucible in the first place.
....Yeah, desparation had
nothing to do with the story in this war. (scarcasim)
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