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Harbinger vs the Normandy: A logical reason for why it wasn't shot down


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Costin_Razvan

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Logic in Mass Effect?! I think it jumped out of the window and fell to it's death three years ago and no one has even recovered the body.

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Seboist wrote...

The whole issue with Harbinger not shooting the normandy or the troops is a moot point, it's overshadowed by the derp of the Reapers being too dumb to shut off the beam rendering the whole attack futile.

They can't shut down their own beam, because reasons.
They can not shut down relay network, because reasons.
They sat in dark space for a thousands of years of Sovereign machinations, because reasons.
Catalyst watched Sovereign and Harbringer fails doing nothing, because reasons.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Logic in Mass Effect?! I think it jumped out of the window and fell to it's death three years ago and no one has even recovered the body.

How dare you not to like nonsensical drama made for the sake of nonsensical drama? This is an outrage!

Modifié par Maxster_, 18 janvier 2013 - 12:27 .


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TheRealJayDee

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What's making the scene even more ridiculous for me, besides everything else, is that my canon Shepard didn't take his LI or any of his closer friends with him, but specificially the two squadmates he would NEVER call a medevac for.

But well, it's not like he was my Shepard anymore anyways.

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Maxster_ wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Logic in Mass Effect?! I think it jumped out of the window and fell to it's death three years ago and no one has even recovered the body.

How dare you not to like nonsensical drama made for the sake of nonsensical drama? This is an outrage!

The really depressing thing is that I can only assume that the writers knew that was what it is (I can't see how anyone could not) but decided that only the "drama" mattered and that making sense simply wasn't important. It's almost equally depressing when some people start defending such poor standards. Sure, every writer will make mistakes from time to time but this looks far more like simply not bothering to try.

Modifié par Reorte, 18 janvier 2013 - 12:46 .


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Han Shot First wrote...

deatharmonic wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...


Also destroying the Normandy in no way guarantees that you wipe out the ground team. If the destruction of the Normandy SR1 was anything to go by, the destruction of the SR2 would not have been that dramatic. At best it would have killed and wounded some people in the immediate vicinity, but it certainly wouldn't have eliminated the entire ground team. And it would have been a distraction that potentially buys enough time for someone to make it to the beam.


What are you basing that on? The SR1 made a pretty damn big bang. I don't know how you can deduce the force of the blast from the SR2's destruction by looking at the SR1, and furthermore say it wouldn't be as much.

... Still waiting for an answer.



One of the arguments made against the medevac scene is that Harbinger should have stopped focusing on the ground team, and fired at the Normandy, because the destruction of the SR2 would have also annihilated the ground team.

But that's a flawed argument. The closest comparable ship in the series was the Normandy SR1, and its destruction was not quite so dramatic that it can be imagine annihilating the entire ground team.


Like other posters said already though, that explosion was in space, and it still caused a decent bang. Now had that been blown up inside an atmosphere it would've been a hell of a lot worse. We can speculate forever on whether the blast would have killed those ground troops, I can't remember where they were placed in realtion to the normandy, but you simply cannot say SR2's blast would have been equal to or less (as is said in the original bolded quote) than the SR1's blast. The conditions accomodating each blast are different enough to drastically influence the behaviour of the blast. So, it's reasonable to speculate that the blast of the SR2 could have done some serious damage to those ground troops.

Edit: SR2 is also considerably bigger than the SR1, which would obviously create a bigger bang.

Modifié par deatharmonic, 18 janvier 2013 - 01:24 .