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[DragonRacer]

orehlol wrote...

 I seen 2 N7 1s on platinum lobbies in the past 3 days

Unfortunately, after Retaliation came out, the default difficulty setting for new players is set to Collectors/Platinum (not Any/Any like it was previously).



Kid you not.

Saw it in an INVADERONE video, where he got a PS3 and started a new account to give new players tips while he played a literally brand-spanking new account himself. And his screen clearly showed that Level 1 N7 1 first time ever opening MP... default is Collectors/Platinum.

He was speechless in the video.

I was horrified watching it.

Modifié par DragonRacer, 17 janvier 2013 - 12:50 .

[Squire Rudi]

From one Hackett to another:

As you said - you felt like you contributed a lot. The other players might have perceived this a bit differently.

And if I come across players displaying a similar loadout as yours in the lobby, I take a long, hard look at the other 2 players in the lobby to see if we stand a realistic chance of pulling through. And THEN I consider whether I am in the mood to play a 30 minute game instead of 20, with the added risk of burning through more consumables than usual.

If both of the above are given, we'll roll. If not, either you're out or I am. I can clutch a wave or two, but I can't carry an entire gold game.

[Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout]

Sp33dy89 wrote...

Would you want someone who is N7 rated 12 bringing a lvl 12 soldier equipped with Avenger V and Predator V into Gold or Platinum?

People kinda right to complain when stuff like this happens.

As OP said, this is the point where you help them. Helping comes in many ways and forms, one being to actually grab your microphone and explain them patiently to switch to a bronze game for their own benefit. Did a few times, nearly alwas worked.

[spudspot]

superblaze1 wrote...

(Blaze: i've been vote-kicked by randoms)

Ok, seems we do have a misunderstanding there. PUG = Pick Up Group = playing with randoms. 

superblaze1 wrote...

(Blaze: the problem with these i had to pull most of weight when three other players died i had to survive long enough to complete the objective to get them back up on feet yesterday)

Difficulty? Also, people not gelling when they need to even frustrates seasoned gold+ players, so I'm having a hard time believing that this was actually funny for you. I also don't know what you mean by staying alive long enough since your squad either: got up via medigel or probably would've bled out by the time you've finished that hack on your own. (Or any other objective.)

superblaze1 wrote...

(Blaze: i once played with N7-2580/N7-1573 players back then, and yes it was based on the N7 rating)

Did they tell you that? We still can't tell if they were douchebags or simply knew they might get into trouble without a strong squad. I'm also curious whether you had equipment and gear, because there are quite a few people who think it's bad taste to not equip any of these for gold and plat. 

superblaze1 wrote...

(Blaze: yep. i expect that, but i do contribute alot and it can be pretty not easy to keep up with track of scores on other players if you're constantly getting blinded by other player's attacks like flamer.)

While I agree that flamer can be annoying and score certainly isn't the most important factor of how much somebody contributed to a match, your definition of contributing a lot might differ from what other people think. (I.e. that generally you won't be contributing too much with an absurdly low score for a given difficulty.)

I'd also like to add that in this game - which might be unorthodox for a co-op - things like crowd control or drawing 'aggro' or having defined tasks at all is infinitely less useful than raw dps. (Which is the reason why Volus Sentinels are rarely seen at all, even though they offer healing and distraction.)

Bottom line: don't let that kick get you down and consider the advice to gain some experience in lower difficulties first. 

Modifié par spudspot, 17 janvier 2013 - 01:00 .

[P51Mus7ang]

superblaze1 wrote...


the problem with that i can only play little in Platinum if i need to assist the players which much distraction to the enemy team, basically drawing their fire. i can offer the team to complete the objectives soon as possbile.

When we are in Plat it`s all about DPS and sticking with the team when starting out, that takes quite a few games.

What we don`t need is someone running off claiming to draw fire, the weakest link in the chain in a team will go in ready to do the 1-2-3-4 objectives, you need your heavy hitters on the field and watching your back, that is just my opinion.

In gold and moreso in Plat, drawing fire is a team effort depending on what is going down.

[Fiddles dee dee]

I got banned for posting a lot of pug pics so I'm very supportive of them in general. So long as no one rockets a brute with one sliver of health left we're fine.

Also I'm far from perfect myself so support play is for me a valuable part of team work.

[fayk_id]

superblaze1 wrote...

fayk_id wrote...

superblaze1 wrote...

i'm completing the Bronze Challenges first, that's exactly why i'm doing less on Silver or Gold, Platinum

ok, fair enough. you've already got 40 challenge points. you're a solid bronze player. everyone was at some point, this is a good start.

but then again, what were you doing in a plat lobby? or even gold? if your teammates are busy and you're swarmed by 2 pyros, 2 bombers and 2 hunters with prime turret behind your back, what are you going to hurt that mob with? i pity the guy who carried you during your single successful gold match

oh i carried myself, not others lol.
in my gold session, i already done more for the team.
as for platinum lobby, i was brought in by random to assist the team. apparently they picked me because i was very reliable and had some sort of "Bait" labeled to me lmao

unless i see a video of you playing gold with your weapons and gear and not being carried, i can't believe you man, sorry

see, this is not only the matter of skill. you also must have good weapons (or level IV consumables if you're using maxed common weapons)  to do enough damage on gold. you don't even have your uncommon weapons maxed yet. how many rounds of mattock II with disruptor ammo I is it going to take to take down a brute? and what if there is three of them, and two ravagers, and three angry banshees rushing your cover?

i once saw a gold duo with common weapons and level 1 character, but those guys spent LOTS of time to get those skills, and also used top equipment and gear, and that was vancouver/reapers

are you THAT good? as i said, i can't believe anything you say unless i see a proof

[Cassandra Saturn]

P51Mus7ang wrote...

superblaze1 wrote...


the problem with that i can only play little in Platinum if i need to assist the players which much distraction to the enemy team, basically drawing their fire. i can offer the team to complete the objectives soon as possbile.

When we are in Plat it`s all about DPS and sticking with the team when starting out, that takes quite a few games.

What we don`t need is someone running off claiming to draw fire, the weakest link in the chain in a team will go in ready to do the 1-2-3-4 objectives, you need your heavy hitters on the field and watching your back, that is just my opinion.

In gold and moreso in Plat, drawing fire is a team effort depending on what is going down.

well have you ever thought about trying things Tactically?
i did that and we only won 4 matches before it was changed to DPS only long time ago even i still use my tactics to go around the enemy.

[Cassandra Saturn]

fayk_id wrote...

superblaze1 wrote...

fayk_id wrote...

superblaze1 wrote...

i'm completing the Bronze Challenges first, that's exactly why i'm doing less on Silver or Gold, Platinum

ok, fair enough. you've already got 40 challenge points. you're a solid bronze player. everyone was at some point, this is a good start.

but then again, what were you doing in a plat lobby? or even gold? if your teammates are busy and you're swarmed by 2 pyros, 2 bombers and 2 hunters with prime turret behind your back, what are you going to hurt that mob with? i pity the guy who carried you during your single successful gold match

oh i carried myself, not others lol.
in my gold session, i already done more for the team.
as for platinum lobby, i was brought in by random to assist the team. apparently they picked me because i was very reliable and had some sort of "Bait" labeled to me lmao

unless i see a video of you playing gold with your weapons and gear and not being carried, i can't believe you man, sorry

see, this is not only the matter of skill. you also must have good weapons (or level IV consumables if you're using maxed common weapons)  to do enough damage on gold. you don't even have your uncommon weapons maxed yet. how many rounds of mattock II with disruptor ammo I is it going to take to take down a brute? and what if there is three of them, and two ravagers, and three angry banshees rushing your cover?

i once saw a gold duo with common weapons and level 1 character, but those guys spent LOTS of time to get those skills, and also used top equipment and gear, and that was vancouver/reapers

are you THAT good? as i said, i can't believe anything you say unless i see a proof

i understand that, even i don't have HDR (HD recorder) on the games.

just mostly some games that's capable of doing ingame recording

[Doctor Trick]

I do believe that ALL players deserve a fair go. After all how are you gonna learn to swim, with out getting your feet wet.

I would help out, not sure if I am good enough. But when I play I tend to just listen to music.

[Shinnyshin]

superblaze1 wrote...

i'm completing the Bronze Challenges first, that's exactly why i'm doing less on Silver or Gold, Platinum

I believe completing a Gold extraction gives you credit for a Bronze and Silver extraction as well.  Much like how a Plat solo run counts as a Gold, Silver, and Bronze as well.

superblaze1 wrote...

oh i carried myself, not others lol.
in my gold session, i already done more for the team.
as for platinum lobby, i was brought in by random to assist the team. apparently they picked me because i was very reliable and had some sort of "Bait" labeled to me lmao

You average 4k points per game.  Now I get that this isn't necessarily a direct measurement of your contributions to a team and it includes wave 1 failures in that mean, but still...that's an indicator that you're not able to output DPS.  And while utility and tankiness or distractions can certainly be nice, the ability to kill things that have to die is paramount.  And it looks to me like you can't provide that in Plat.  Probably not in Gold.

That said, if you do want some help getting some momentum going, I'd be glad to do some Golds with you, help you pick up some quick credits and jump-start your manifest.

Edit: Just remembered you were on Xbox 360.  Myyyyyyy bad.  Sorry about that, I'm PC .

Modifié par Shinnyshin, 17 janvier 2013 - 01:12 .

[Cassandra Saturn]

spudspot wrote...

superblaze1 wrote...

(Blaze: i've been vote-kicked by randoms)

Ok, seems we do have a misunderstanding there. PUG = Pick Up Group = playing with randoms. 

superblaze1 wrote...

(Blaze: the problem with these i had to pull most of weight when three other players died i had to survive long enough to complete the objective to get them back up on feet yesterday)

Difficulty? Also, people not gelling when they need to even frustrates seasoned gold+ players, so I'm having a hard time believing that this was actually funny for you. I also don't know what you mean by staying alive long enough since your squad either: got up via medigel or probably would've bled out by the time you've finished that hack on your own. (Or any other objective.)

superblaze1 wrote...

(Blaze: i once played with N7-2580/N7-1573 players back then, and yes it was based on the N7 rating)

Did they tell you that? We still can't tell if they were douchebags or simply knew they might get into trouble without a strong squad. I'm also curious whether you had equipment and gear, because there are quite a few people who think it's bad taste to not equip any of these for gold and plat.

superblaze1 wrote...

(Blaze: yep. i expect that, but i do contribute alot and it can be pretty not easy to keep up with track of scores on other players if you're constantly getting blinded by other player's attacks like flamer.)

While I agree that flamer can be annoying and score certainly isn't the most important factor of how much somebody contributed to a match, your definition of contributing a lot might differ from what other people think. (I.e. that generally you won't be contributing too much with an absurdly low score for a given difficulty.)

I'd also like to add that this game - which might be unorthodox for a co-op - things like crowd control or drawing 'aggro' or having defined tasks at all is infinitely less usefull than raw dps. (Which is the reason why Volus Sentinels are rarely seen at all, even though they offer healing and distraction.)

Bottom line: don't let that kick get you down and consider the advice to gain some experience in lower difficulties first. 

oh i thought PUGs were meant Players Underscore Gamers i usally get them confused with other term of same name.

some things that's not funny for me. when i get into match i'm actually serious. it's like taking a moment to get focused when step into the mission area to complete whatever it was sent to you. it's your job to do that.
for N7 people back then in old times, they were actually nice, kind gamers. they allowed me to get much experience from doing Bronze when i first tried out ME3's MP back then.

for that bottom line, i agree, but here's wise saying "when we fall down, what we do? we get back up, do our job"

[Bhatair]

Phoenix535 wrote...

So recently I've noticed alot of negativity on BSN twoards rookies who are trying to made transtions to higher difficulties . . .

Dude, where have you been? It's pretty much been this way since the second day of the demo.

[fayk_id]

superblaze1 wrote...

fayk_id wrote...

superblaze1 wrote...

fayk_id wrote...

superblaze1 wrote...

i'm completing the Bronze Challenges first, that's exactly why i'm doing less on Silver or Gold, Platinum

ok, fair enough. you've already got 40 challenge points. you're a solid bronze player. everyone was at some point, this is a good start.

but then again, what were you doing in a plat lobby? or even gold? if your teammates are busy and you're swarmed by 2 pyros, 2 bombers and 2 hunters with prime turret behind your back, what are you going to hurt that mob with? i pity the guy who carried you during your single successful gold match

oh i carried myself, not others lol.
in my gold session, i already done more for the team.
as for platinum lobby, i was brought in by random to assist the team. apparently they picked me because i was very reliable and had some sort of "Bait" labeled to me lmao

unless i see a video of you playing gold with your weapons and gear and not being carried, i can't believe you man, sorry

see, this is not only the matter of skill. you also must have good weapons (or level IV consumables if you're using maxed common weapons)  to do enough damage on gold. you don't even have your uncommon weapons maxed yet. how many rounds of mattock II with disruptor ammo I is it going to take to take down a brute? and what if there is three of them, and two ravagers, and three angry banshees rushing your cover?

i once saw a gold duo with common weapons and level 1 character, but those guys spent LOTS of time to get those skills, and also used top equipment and gear, and that was vancouver/reapers

are you THAT good? as i said, i can't believe anything you say unless i see a proof

i understand that, even i don't have HDR (HD recorder) on the games.

just mostly some games that's capable of doing ingame recording

ok, let's do it this way. i will send you a friend request, we will set up a gold lobby, and we will have a gold game with me recording it on fraps

i will try to stick close to you to be able to track your actions. deal?

btw, are you going to be vanguard?

[Cassandra Saturn]

Shinnyshin wrote...

superblaze1 wrote...

i'm completing the Bronze Challenges first, that's exactly why i'm doing less on Silver or Gold, Platinum

I believe completing a Gold extraction gives you credit for a Bronze and Silver extraction as well.  Much like how a Plat solo run counts as a Gold, Silver, and Bronze as well.

superblaze1 wrote...

oh i carried myself, not others lol.
in my gold session, i already done more for the team.
as for platinum lobby, i was brought in by random to assist the team. apparently they picked me because i was very reliable and had some sort of "Bait" labeled to me lmao

You average 4k points per game.  Now I get that this isn't necessarily a direct measurement of your contributions to a team and it includes wave 1 failures in that mean, but still...that's an indicator that you're not able to output DPS.  And while utility and tankiness or distractions can certainly be nice, the ability to kill things that have to die is paramount.  And it looks to me like you can't provide that in Plat.  Probably not in Gold.

That said, if you do want some help getting some momentum going, I'd be glad to do some Golds with you, help you pick up some quick credits and jump-start your manifest.

well thank you, i do really don't remember when i got on MP. but for long time, i've been mostly getting much of low level items, and i don't spend on other packs in store, just RP (Reserve Pack) and i got good characters out of it. lately, i only recently started to upgrade my weapons from l and llls to hopefully X sure, it would take time.

[Cassandra Saturn]

fayk_id wrote...

superblaze1 wrote...

fayk_id wrote...

superblaze1 wrote...

fayk_id wrote...

superblaze1 wrote...

i'm completing the Bronze Challenges first, that's exactly why i'm doing less on Silver or Gold, Platinum

ok, fair enough. you've already got 40 challenge points. you're a solid bronze player. everyone was at some point, this is a good start.

but then again, what were you doing in a plat lobby? or even gold? if your teammates are busy and you're swarmed by 2 pyros, 2 bombers and 2 hunters with prime turret behind your back, what are you going to hurt that mob with? i pity the guy who carried you during your single successful gold match

oh i carried myself, not others lol.
in my gold session, i already done more for the team.
as for platinum lobby, i was brought in by random to assist the team. apparently they picked me because i was very reliable and had some sort of "Bait" labeled to me lmao

unless i see a video of you playing gold with your weapons and gear and not being carried, i can't believe you man, sorry

see, this is not only the matter of skill. you also must have good weapons (or level IV consumables if you're using maxed common weapons)  to do enough damage on gold. you don't even have your uncommon weapons maxed yet. how many rounds of mattock II with disruptor ammo I is it going to take to take down a brute? and what if there is three of them, and two ravagers, and three angry banshees rushing your cover?

i once saw a gold duo with common weapons and level 1 character, but those guys spent LOTS of time to get those skills, and also used top equipment and gear, and that was vancouver/reapers

are you THAT good? as i said, i can't believe anything you say unless i see a proof

i understand that, even i don't have HDR (HD recorder) on the games.

just mostly some games that's capable of doing ingame recording

ok, let's do it this way. i will send you a friend request, we will set up a gold lobby, and we will have a gold game with me recording it on fraps

i will try to stick close to you to be able to track your actions. deal?

btw, are you going to be vanguard?

dude, fraps? sorry i play on Xbox 360 bro
i'll be Soldier for while

[Das Rouse]

@superblaze1 if you would like to, Mus7ang and myself wouldn't mind running a few golds sometime in the future. I give you props for trying to play the game. When my headset's batteries die, my performance goes down a lot. I would have stopped playing if I couldn't hear what was going on in the game.

[ilaardi]

Newbs are good for game and I hope they buy lots of pacs. I dont blame them not knowing game mechanics. Game itself doesnt explains its insights too much and they wont propably read; forums, guides or watch gamevideos. How ever maybe it wouldnt be such a bad idea to make all difficulties except bronze locked at start and players would have to unlock them by completing certain amount of games.. like complete 5 bronze to unlock silver etc. The number of completed games for unlock doesnt even need to be high.

[fayk_id]

ilaardi wrote...

How ever maybe it wouldnt be such a bad idea to make all difficulties except bronze locked at start and players would have to unlock them by completing certain amount of games.. like complete 5 bronze to unlock silver etc. The number of completed games for unlock doesnt even need to be high.

this

[Cassandra Saturn]

ilaardi wrote...

Newbs are good for game and I hope they buy lots of pacs. I dont blame them not knowing game mechanics. Game itself doesnt explains its insights too much and they wont propably read; forums, guides or watch gamevideos. How ever maybe it wouldnt be such a bad idea to make all difficulties except bronze locked at start and players would have to unlock them by completing certain amount of games.. like complete 5 bronze to unlock silver etc. The number of completed games for unlock doesnt even need to be high.

i second that

[RukiaKuchki]

Derp88 wrote...

I generally give a player with a beginner's manifest a shot. However, I don't like it when players do not use consumables on a higher difficulty. If you constantly bleed out or refuse to ever use rockets, then you're just expecting to be carried and not improving your skill.

This.

[Tarkus 5]

I've hosted quite a few gold matches where new people with an N7 rating of 12 show up with a level 12 character.Very few are pretty good "starting out" on gold level and it cause's everyone else to waste alot more supplies and sometimes we don't finish a full 10 waves.Some ask me questions and I help anyway I can.I tell them it's not COD modern warfare and there's no shame in learning the characters,their powers and weapons on bronze maybe silver if they find a favorite character that works for them.I did bronze alot before venturing into gold with friends because as others have mentioned I felt like a burden on the team.Rather than kick anyone I will sometimes just leave and start a new lobby if frustration starts to set in.
Some new players are nice,have even thanked me for not kicking them,but there are also those who gleefully watch the team struggle as they do little to help just so they can get those credits and xp points faster.

[N7 Banshee Bait]

I love helping the new players. I feel like I need to kick extra ass & protect them. And maybe they'll pick up a few things by watching how I play.

I hate playing with the experienced jerks because they run around killing all the enemies as fast as possible like it's some sort of racing game.

[P51Mus7ang]

fayk_id wrote...

ok, let's do it this way. i will send you a friend request, we will set up a gold lobby, and we will have a gold game with me recording it on fraps

i will try to stick close to you to be able to track your actions. deal?

btw, are you going to be vanguard?

And for what it`s worth I would like to throw my GT in the hat and join also, I will be around today from noon eastern until 11 tonight.

This has nothing to do with judging anyone, let`s simply have fun and do a few gold, see how it goes and if everyone is game, let`s kick it up a notch to Plat.

As for playing or not playing tactically, I would like to think after 3,000+++ games I am doing something right, I take what others share here on BSN as their experience, the kind players that have shown me their various strategies, the hundreds of hours trying builds and hundreds of hours in game, to the field every time I play.

In the end I am sure we will learn something from each other, that is fun and fun is what this is all about.

GT at left

Modifié par P51Mus7ang, 17 janvier 2013 - 01:49 .

[GallowsPole]

I find a majority of people on here or even in game, TELL people how to play and are arrogant rather than offering assistance and giving tips.