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Gotholhorakh wrote...

The studio CEO has decided his best course of action is to display contempt for those who felt cheated when they bought his stinker.



Wow, deja vu for many BSNers. :)



Oh God.

Is this Casey Hudson's cousin?

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fiendishchicken wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

There is a lesson here, one I myself learned thanks to ME3 last year.


I learned this the hard way.

BioWare may have my money. But they didn't earn it.


Totally same here. They have my money, they may have laughed in our faces re: customer investment in franchises, and they may have written us all off as trolls, posted on these forums about how they find eager customer loyalty a burden and alluded to the idea that if anything we owe them as much as they do us for their hard work (wtf?)... and ultimately they kept my money in their back pocket - but it has cost them my subsequent pre-orders and purchases - not a dime out of me without a game I consider worth it due to user reviews or playing on someone else's machine.

They can swing for pre-orders and collector's editions, probably permanently.

fiendishchicken wrote...

Oh God.

Is this Casey Hudson's cousin?


No, no this is not Casey Hudson's cousin. :lol:

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Okay, this is starting to get sad.

You remember how people say that AvP 2010 plays a lot better than A:CM?

Well, now there's video evidence that it even LOOKS BETTER

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Fine example of how massive the difference between good and bad usage of lightning can be in an FPS. Not to mention FPS that is suppoed to have some degree of suspension going. Surely guy assembling the video was kind enough to pick ****ties moments of ACM but still..god it looks sloppy. Them fires. Those Aliens.


1:48-1:55 vs 2:50-3.00 is pretty soul crushing in ways that have nothing to do with eye candy. Schoolbook examples of DOs and DON'Ts of an Alien game.

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Nordicus wrote...

Okay, this is starting to get sad.

You remember how people say that AvP 2010 plays a lot better than A:CM?

Well, now there's video evidence that it even LOOKS BETTER


Funnily enough, as a result of me not buying the new game, I decided to go back and play that game again recently. Honestly, I think that it's underrated. AVP 2010 is actually a pretty decent, solid game, all things considered. It's nowhere near perfect, but it stands up and is entertaining.  But from what I've seen of A:CM, I totally agree, AVP 2010 wasn't the best looking game, but  the lighting and atmosphere compensated plenty for that, especially in the more claustrophbic levels. Overall, far better visuals than ACM, and from what I've heard, much better gameplay as well, in both singleplayer and multiplayer.

But to get the most out of that particular game (AVP);
PC version + Marine campaign + Nightmare difficulty + low brightness settings + dark room at night.

The first couple of levels with this combo are freaking terrifying.

Seriously.

Modifié par ME_Fan, 20 février 2013 - 02:01 .


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LTD wrote...

http://www.destructo...se-245943.phtml



Only cool people quote themselves:l

I read some more reviews by this  dude and good lord how butt hurt he is about - everything- always.  Scammer dev vs butt hurt journo makes an excellent combo though. Way more exting than Alien Vs Marine in ACM

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ME_Fan wrote...


Funnily enough, as a result of me not buying the new game, I decided to go back and play that game again recently. Honestly, I think that it's underrated. AVP 2010 is actually a pretty decent, solid game, all things considered. It's nowhere near perfect, but it stands up and is entertaining.  But from what I've seen of A:CM, I totally agree, AVP 2010 wasn't the best looking game, but  the lighting and atmosphere compensated plenty for that, especially in the more claustrophbic levels. Overall, far better visuals than ACM, and from what I've heard, much better gameplay as well, in both singleplayer and multiplayer.

But to get the most out of that particular game (AVP);
PC version + Marine campaign + Nightmare difficulty + low brightness settings + dark room at night.

The first couple of levels with this combo are freaking terrifying.

Seriously.



AvP 2010 was decent (now its a gem thanks to ACM :)) but suffers from many things. Campaings are decent but really short, they mainly took place in same boring maps, bad AI (still greater than ACM) clumsy controls and streamlined Predator (only one vission mode, forced to clumsy melee combat mostly and limited jump)

But it has really good atmosphere like you said, i had lots of fun trying full stealth with Six and Predator.

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Cyberarmy wrote...

ME_Fan wrote...


Funnily enough, as a result of me not buying the new game, I decided to go back and play that game again recently. Honestly, I think that it's underrated. AVP 2010 is actually a pretty decent, solid game, all things considered. It's nowhere near perfect, but it stands up and is entertaining.  But from what I've seen of A:CM, I totally agree, AVP 2010 wasn't the best looking game, but  the lighting and atmosphere compensated plenty for that, especially in the more claustrophbic levels. Overall, far better visuals than ACM, and from what I've heard, much better gameplay as well, in both singleplayer and multiplayer.

But to get the most out of that particular game (AVP);
PC version + Marine campaign + Nightmare difficulty + low brightness settings + dark room at night.

The first couple of levels with this combo are freaking terrifying.

Seriously.



AvP 2010 was decent (now its a gem thanks to ACM :)) but suffers from many things. Campaings are decent but really short, they mainly took place in same boring maps, bad AI (still greater than ACM) clumsy controls and streamlined Predator (only one vission mode, forced to clumsy melee combat mostly and limited jump)

But it has really good atmosphere like you said, i had lots of fun trying full stealth with Six and Predator.


It isn't perfect - the franchise was pretty great at one point, but 2010 didn't really live up to it. It's actually quite sad that a relatively weak game from 3 years ago has been made to look so good by A:CM.

They really, really need to patch the heck out of Colonial Marines, it needs fixing - needs fixing. At the moment it seems to be an even split between a game from 5 years ago, and a game which was thrown together from bitty assets in the 6 months before release...

...which if the gossip is true, is pretty much what it is. GearBox's reputation is in tatters, and frankly Borderlands and OpFor are beginning to look like flukes.

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 20 février 2013 - 10:01 .


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LTD wrote...

Saddest thing here is how the game is actually selling perfectly fine. Topping charts in UK at least. Please stop pre-ordering games people:( Ultimately it is what makes bull**** moves like this game possible.


I know a bunch of people who have bought it to see how bad it is, too! Awesome, huh?


Same reason why I bought "Birdemic" and "The Room" but I didn't pay that much for them. :pinched:

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Does CM include the acid blood when you kill aliens point blank? It´s obvious it doesn´t affect scenery as you fight aliens in the Sulaco, but marines?

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Nerevar-as wrote...

Does CM include the acid blood when you kill aliens point blank? It´s obvious it doesn´t affect scenery as you fight aliens in the Sulaco, but marines?


no, you can bathe in it.

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Gearbox, so clever!

It's okay people, they don't even know themselves what's going on.

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Cyberarmy wrote...

 streamlined Predator (only one vission mode,


The Predators in AVP 2010 had 3 vision modes; normal, heat vision, and alien mode. Anyway yeah, like I said, that game was far from perfect, but it's still a decent and entertaining game.

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ME_Fan wrote...

Cyberarmy wrote...

 streamlined Predator (only one vission mode,


The Predators in AVP 2010 had 3 vision modes; normal, heat vision, and alien mode. Anyway yeah, like I said, that game was far from perfect, but it's still a decent and entertaining game.


Im replaying it now and there is only heat vision and normal.  Luring with sound is nice though.

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Gearbox, so clever!

It's okay people, they don't even know themselves what's going on.


Yeah they're just making excuses, they want everything swept under the rug. They're probably waiting until things cool down, hopefully they won't. Someone has to be held accountable. 

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Cyberarmy wrote...

Im replaying it now and there is only heat vision and normal.  Luring with sound is nice though.


Trust me, I completed it again last week and there are 3, you unlock the third about half way through.

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Jayne126 wrote...

Gearbox, so clever!

It's okay people, they don't even know themselves what's going on.


Yeah they're just making excuses, they want everything swept under the rug. They're probably waiting until things cool down, hopefully they won't. Someone has to be held accountable. 


To be fair, the changelog for their first update did suggest they weren't trying to hide the crapness to a silly level (I mean they have to be careful with both sides of their business) - now people just need to hold the line, and keep up the pressure like hell so that isn't the last update we ever see.

I do understand the personal twitter feed thing, I'm afraid I would probably do the same.

I sympathise with the problems they find themselves in, and I do hope they fix the issues one way or another, I think they need to because as it stands the game was a just a big fat lie.

I won't express my trust in the developers like a fangirl since I did that with DA2 etc., and they didn't fix jack ****. I will say I hope Gearbox are much better.

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Just Wow

Yeah speeds runs are meant to be fast by nature, but this is just broken...

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If you bought it btw, don't forget to keep an eye on http://www.moddb.com...olonial-marines

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 20 février 2013 - 09:20 .


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Gotholhorakh wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Jayne126 wrote...

Gearbox, so clever!

It's okay people, they don't even know themselves what's going on.


Yeah they're just making excuses, they want everything swept under the rug. They're probably waiting until things cool down, hopefully they won't. Someone has to be held accountable. 


To be fair, the changelog for their first update did suggest they weren't trying to hide the crapness to a silly level (I mean they have to be careful with both sides of their business) - now people just need to hold the line, and keep up the pressure like hell so that isn't the last update we ever see.

I do understand the personal twitter feed thing, I'm afraid I would probably do the same.

I sympathise with the problems they find themselves in, and I do hope they fix the issues one way or another, I think they need to because as it stands the game was a just a big fat lie.

I won't express my trust in the developers like a fangirl since I did that with DA2 etc., and they didn't fix jack ****. I will say I hope Gearbox are much better.



I honestly doubt they will fix anything. Besides what is fixable anyways? They'd have to remake to the whole game to fix any of the real problems like the crap story, the bad graphics, the stupid AI and god knows what else. I don't really care if they fix anything or not, in my opinion they should have to pay in some way or another which I doubt will happen anyways, they already got away with false advertising. The same happened with Duke Nukem and they got away with it.

The best that can be done is to stop buying their games, which I have never ever done until this game because I thought since they made Borderlands they had to be doing something right. Guess not, and I guess those people who claimed Randy Pitchford was nothing but a conman were right. I really, really wanted to see a good aliens game, its too bad they screwed it up because this could have really opened some doors for Gearbox if they had done things right. 

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Oh, c'mon. My post was comedic commentary, not spam...

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Gotholhorakh wrote...
If you bought it btw, don't forget to keep an eye on http://www.moddb.com...olonial-marines


Trust in the modding community to finish the game Gearbox didn't.

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ReconTeam wrote...

Gotholhorakh wrote...
If you bought it btw, don't forget to keep an eye on http://www.moddb.com...olonial-marines


Trust in the modding community to finish the game Gearbox didn't.


Agreed - it's always worth staying alive to the possibility - keeping Oblivion and KOTOR 2 in mind for a start...


Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I honestly doubt they will fix
anything. Besides what is fixable anyways? They'd have to remake to the
whole game to fix any of the real problems like the crap story, the bad
graphics, the stupid AI and god knows what else. I don't really care if
they fix anything or not, in my opinion they should have to pay in some
way or another which I doubt will happen anyways, they already got away
with false advertising. The same happened with Duke Nukem and they got
away with it.

The best that can be done is to stop buying their
games, which I have never ever done until this game because I thought
since they made Borderlands they had to be doing something right. Guess
not, and I guess those people who claimed Randy Pitchford was nothing
but a conman were right. I really, really wanted to see a good aliens
game, its too bad they screwed it up because this could have really
opened some doors for Gearbox if they had done things right.


I think they must do something if they want to restore their reputation, but there is a good chance they will not, and will leave it hanging.

I agree they need to do this - obviously people are not going to clamour to buy another Aliens game from them, and given they selling FPS's without a huge MP community or story element, so it's no skin off the nose of anyone to just ignore their games if they're going to suck.

Trouble is, I think only MP has a chance of working out now, both in practical terms and because they have to show an ongoing financial incentive to justify spending lots more money on the project, the process of patch admin etc. - they can make fixes to the game during DLC development.

I think harrassment as some people like to do has a completely counter-productive effect on the individuals who are trying to fix the problem - we should want to give people the opportunity to fix stuff, always - BUT I have to say I agree with you on keeping money in pockets etc.

You have to keep the pressure up otherwise companies will sit back and do nothing - ultimately Randy Pitchford may feel bad and want to fix it with all his heart and soul, but it is the businesses that need to be forced to act, because companies have the moral sensibilities of a lamp-post or a shark and nothing the developers feel will force them to do anything.

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 21 février 2013 - 09:25 .