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[Splinter Cell 108]

Gotholhorakh wrote...

M25105 wrote...

From reddit.

I'm posting this for all the people that wants to give Gearbox a second/third chance. Don't.

That gossip, all of which is doubtful past the bit which goes "me violating my NDA" would if true, not so much damn Gearbox as explain the issues, and that they had been severely let down.

I have no faith in such claims though tbh. I think at least multiplayer is fixable with some major work, some pretty decent games were debacles when they were released - kotor 2 and rage spring to mind so it wouldn't be without precedent.

Its not the first time that comes up, http://www.ign.com/a...x-actually-make

No offense but this is my first time dealing with Gearbox and I'm afraid it will be the last. This isn't the first time this has happened with them. Apparently they are far too "busy" with Borderlands to give a damn about whatever other they should be doing.

Modifié par Splinter Cell 108, 13 février 2013 - 01:52 .

[billy the squid]

M25105 wrote...

From reddit.

I'm posting this for all the people that wants to give Gearbox a second/third chance. Don't.

First off, due to me breaking NDA, I can't provide any proof that I'm not just talking out of my ass. But I figure you'd be interested in hearing what I have to say regardless. I've been on the project for around a year and a half, so some of the following are things I've heard from more senior guys.

Source: http://www.reddit.co...final/?sort=old

First breaking a NDA has nothing to do with evidence. He wouldn't be able to say anything if he didn't and as he did it still doesn't make any evidence of the events magically vanish. So he could be talking out his arse regardless of whether he breached the NDA or not.

Although from what he says it makes a certain amount of sense regarding outsourcing and prioritisation. Either way GB screwed up in either lack of oversight and quality control if the outsourced or bodged the job in a rush if the didn't. Either way it doesn't leave them in a good light. Plain and simple, they screwed up badly, whatever way they try to cut it.

[hangmans tree]

maybe the Borderlands 2 and **** ton of DLCs was justification enough?

[Nerevar-as]

Gotholhorakh wrote...

M25105 wrote...

From reddit.

I'm posting this for all the people that wants to give Gearbox a second/third chance. Don't.

That gossip, all of which is doubtful past the bit which goes "me violating my NDA" would if true, not so much damn Gearbox as explain the issues, and that they had been severely let down.

I have no faith in such claims though tbh. I think at least multiplayer is fixable with some major work, some pretty decent games were debacles when they were released - kotor 2 and rage spring to mind so it wouldn't be without precedent.

FOX approving the script makes sense. Just look at A3 & 4, AvP1 & 2, and Prometheus. Don´t think this game´s script is that much worse. Is it so hard to ignore everything done after Aliens? I think most of the fans just want that. Hell, I´d buy this PoS if Newt, Ripley and Bishop´s upper half were on it.

[billy the squid]

hangmans tree wrote...

maybe the Borderlands 2 and **** ton of DLCs was justification enough?

I have limited sympathy. Although I think the guys who actually developed Borderlands 2 have done a good job and they deserve credit for it, one has to wonder what the hell Pitchford was playing at as he would have known whether they could have handled the devlopment or not and if so, then he's been lying through his teeth knowing that the development has been outsourced or rushed and not fit for certification for over 9 months.

Modifié par billy the squid, 13 février 2013 - 02:29 .

[Gotholhorakh]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Its not the first time that comes up, http://www.ign.com/a...x-actually-make

No offense but this is my first time dealing with Gearbox and I'm afraid it will be the last. This isn't the first time this has happened with them. Apparently they are far too "busy" with Borderlands to give a damn about whatever other they should be doing.

None taken at all - given how the game has turned out you could hardly be blamed. If it does transpire that someone else did it though, it might be worthwhile from your point of view staying open to the possibility they will crank out another Borderlands or Opposing Force though.

Personally, I think it's sad that the genius which went into those games was not applied to a space marines game set in the canon Alien universe - what a waste!

billy the squid wrote...

Although from what he says it
makes a certain amount of sense regarding outsourcing and
prioritisation. Either way GB screwed up in either lack of oversight and
quality control if the outsourced or bodged the job in a rush if the
didn't. Either way it doesn't leave them in a good light. Plain and
simple, they screwed up badly, whatever way they try to cut it.

Yep - bottom line, the game is pants and is a *massive* opportunity missed.

Nerevar-as wrote...

FOX approving the script makes sense.
Just look at A3 & 4, AvP1 & 2, and Prometheus. Don´t think this
game´s script is that much worse. Is it so hard to ignore everything
done after Aliens? I think most of the fans just want that. Hell, I´d
buy this PoS if Newt, Ripley and Bishop´s upper half were on it.

Damn straight. For me only Prometheus, Alien and (just about) Aliens exist - I guess YMMV on which core films you choose but the fact remains - any old dumb fun will get the go-ahead where Alien is concerned.

billy the squid wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

maybe the Borderlands 2 and **** ton of DLCs was justification enough?

I
have limited sympathy. Although I think the guys who actually developed
Borderlands 2 have done a good job and they deserve credit for it, one
has to wonder what the hell Pitchford was playing at as he would have
known whether they could have handled the devlopment or not and if so,
then he's been lying through his teeth knowing that the development has
been outsourced or rushed and not fit for certification for over 9
months.

Well yes on the screw up, they have basically messed their own bed here - but ultimately I wouldn't necessarily blame the guy in the flaming robe at the press interview - there's no way he could be doing the right thing by his employees, investors etc. by coming out with what a catastrophe it all was.

Yes though - monumental fail deployed.

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 13 février 2013 - 02:47 .

[Dragon_Claw]

My 2 cents from yesterday:

Soo, I just beat Aliens: Colonial Marines single player campaign in about 6-7 hours, which is still a bull**** length for a full priced game (even though I got a discount on it). I thought it was fun all the way through, but it still felt like a generic shooter that should have been released back in 2010.

The game was also riddled with bugs (no pun intended), at one point I look around and one of my A.I. sidekicks was walking 3 meters in the air like he was Space Jesus or something. The enemy A.I. is just dumb and there was no real tension or horror, just wall to wall action (sounds like Dead Space 3). And the story was kinda lackluster.

The good parts were that there was a lot of cool fanservice from both films. The new Alien designs were pretty neat without going overboard. The sounds were excellent, my subwoofer probably drove my downstairs neighbour crazy. The music was also great since it resembled James Horner's origianl score. And there was a simple level up system with weapons configuration like ME3's just to spice things up a bit.

I haven't tried MP, so I can't comment on that. But even with it's shortcomings, I enjoyed it for what it was, but I still expected more given it's 6 years development cycle...

I also saw this today.  

Modifié par Dragon_Claw, 13 février 2013 - 04:06 .

[kobayashi-maru]

So essentially the backstory to the production is more fascinating. I really like Alien 3 (although many hate it) but the documentary about the production is fantastic, hoping for Colonial Marines doc in future

[Cyberarmy]

 2011 E3 gameplay, WTF happened to this game?!? 

[Splinter Cell 108]

Cyberarmy wrote...

 2011 E3 gameplay, WTF happened to this game?!? 

Yeah they didn't put that in the game according to a lot of people who played it. No surprise since that whole segment had Randy Pitchford narrating it. 

Modifié par Splinter Cell 108, 13 février 2013 - 09:11 .

[Nordicus]

Yay, great job Gearbox.

Now gamers will have a new coating of cynicism towards gameplay videos and demos after being toyed with like this!

Really, nice job.

[AshedMan]

Nordicus wrote...

Yay, great job Gearbox.

Now gamers will have a new coating of cynicism towards gameplay videos and demos after being toyed with like this!

Really, nice job.

Gamers need a dose of cynicism.  There's too many people openning their wallets and dumping good money on complete garbage with pre-orders and season pass DLC, etc.  These companies just love to take advantage of someone with an open wallet.  

[Druss99]

Druss99 wrote...

If you look at that Hicks trailer again they seem to have a captured marine with a bag over his head, wouldn't bet against it being one of the original crew.

Quoting myself is lame, but can anyone who's had the misfortune to play the game confirm if I was right or not? I've read they abandoned canon completely at one point.

[Chromie]

 Fake Reggie strikes again.

[kobayashi-maru]

So read a review that spoiled a certain reveal, and honestly I will never play this game now. They promised to explain Alien 3 beginning and instead made it even worse - seriously what where they thinking. They don't even really explain it, just vomit it out in game as cannon, going against character, back story and common sense. I'm pretty much at pre EC ME3 ending level of rage towards everyone associated with this (even want to swear at the cleaners in the Gearbox offices)

Modifié par kobayashi-maru, 14 février 2013 - 04:22 .

[AshedMan]

kobayashi-maru wrote...

So read a review that spoiled a certain reveal, and honestly I will never play this game now. They promised to explain Alien 3 beginning and instead made it even worse - seriously what where they thinking. They don't even really explain it, just vomit it out in game as cannon, going against character, back story and common sense. I'm pretty much at pre EC ME3 ending level of rage towards everyone associated with this (even want to swear at the cleaners in the Gearbox offices)

From the anonymous Reddit poster who claims to be a dev:

Beyond gameplay, the story has been raised as an issue several times. I can't really comment without feeling bad beyond saying that the script was approved by 20th Century FOX, and that the rush to throw a playable product together came at the cost of the story. Campaign does a pretty bad job of explaining a lot of the questions raised at the start of the game, and so hopefully there will be DLC to flesh that out a bit better.

Just give Gearbox more money for DLC and it sounds like they will give you the story you thought you were getting in the $50 game.  

[kobayashi-maru]

May not need to spend that extra cash the Internet's full of rumours, from 8gb patch to it being postponed/cancelled on Wii U.

[sympathy4sarenreturns]

The game cannot be THAT bad, guys and girls. Can it? Don't know...I didn't buy it, but is it really that bad?

[Cyberarmy]

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

The game cannot be THAT bad, guys and girls. Can it? Don't know...I didn't buy it, but is it really that bad?

Its not that bad if you play MP with your friends BUT anything is fun doing with friends.

[Isichar]

Ive been hearing GREAT things about this game.

[Gotholhorakh]

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

The game cannot be THAT bad, guys and girls. Can it? Don't know...I didn't buy it, but is it really that bad?

Put it this way, if you bought it expecting it to be really, really terrible you might find it quite fun. If you bought it expecting it to be awesome, like a return to the old AvP², not so much.

I think MP is totally repairable and fixes should be concentrated on because they could mitigate its crapness a lot.

[Wolfspawn]

Well, here's Angry Joe's review.

His review was the deciding point on whether or not I bought the game at a slashed price. Looks like I'm not going to be playing that game.

Modifié par bob_20000, 14 février 2013 - 12:45 .

[Bushido Effect]

PAHH HAH.. Too bad this game sucked bad. Glad I saved my cash. ME3, Dead Space 3, and Crysis 3 are all better choices this season... Whoa, all "3", and all EA games lol. =P

Shame on Gearbox! First Duke Nukem forever took them forever to make. Then Aliens, they took about 6 YEARS, and this piece of unoptimized crap is the result. All bad reviews across the board. mostly 5's.

bob_20000 wrote...

His review was the deciding point on whether or not I bought the game at a slashed price. Looks like I'm not going to be playing that game.

So you wouldn't even get it later when it drops to 19.99 or less? Understandable.  
If anything, I think that Aliens VS. Predator game was better than this.  It was flawed, but the MP was better. Still playable.

Modifié par Bushido Effect, 14 février 2013 - 01:09 .

[Nerevar-as]

Druss99 wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

If you look at that Hicks trailer again they seem to have a captured marine with a bag over his head, wouldn't bet against it being one of the original crew.

Quoting myself is lame, but can anyone who's had the misfortune to play the game confirm if I was right or not? I've read they abandoned canon completely at one point.

From what I´ve read, yes. It adds several more plot holes to what happened between Aliens and A3. It´s like they wanted to undo A3 but couldn´t/didn´t dare to go all the way. End result: makes no sense.

It looks you also find Hudson´s remains. Now the Alien cycle lasts less than 15 minutes instead of the 24+ hours of the original movie. Cameron was the only one to remember when he cut Burke´s actual death from Aliens.