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Ausstig wrote...

You forgot the part after the credits which questions whether the main character did 'escape' or if the escape was simbolic of escaping reality into their own mind.

Reminds me of Suckerpunch.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Seems like it would be a waste if we didn't become an/or the Inquisitor.

[ElitePinecone]

Fandabydastic wrote...

Okay maybe I can post this here then and get a reply cause I'm too lazy to search and/or google... but does

Inquisitors = seeker

Or not?

We don't know yet, really. 

I would think almost certainly not, because Mark Darrah already confirmed that the player character ("the Inquisitor") doesn't serve the Templars, and David Gaider pointed out that the player isn't required by the game to support the Chantry or hold its views. From everything we've seen (and some things we weren't supposed to see), the Inquisition looks like an independent organisation that's shaped in large part by the actions and intentions of the player. It's what we make of it, it looks like.

There's probably *some* level of Seeker involvement in the Inquisition - Cassandra is a companion, it's been heavily hinted - but whether Cassandra's/Leliana's remnant branch of moderate Chantry forces have any capacity to influence the player is debatable. It may even be that the player takes command of whatever non-Lambert Seekers are left and sort of... subsumes them into the Inquisition. Never turn away help, and all that. 

Again, we really don't know at this point, but I would tend to think that it's not at all a case of "Seekers = Inquisition". If they are involved, it's probably not in a way that bends the organisation to necessarily pro-Chantry, pro-Divine or anti-mage viewpoints. The player seems to have control, and the goals of the Inquisition appear to be quite separate from the stated goals of the Seekers. 

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Yes, I will gladly torture the blood mages for the good of Thedas!

[LobselVith8]

FreshIstay wrote...

esper wrote...

An option to be a part of it also imply the option to not be.

We will either be the Inqusition or the victim.

Though the option to join or opposse would of course be the dream scenerio, I just don't think it is realistic. 

If you consider yourself a Victim that means you feel that the Inquisition' s goals would ultimately be successful regardless of player choice, there Is a possibility they could fail... depending on you, at least IMO. 

Hypothetically speaking, it could simply be that one might view the Inquisition as an organization of antagonists if the group consists of people like Cassandra and Leliana (and any Seekers allied to Divine Justina V), if the protagonist is against the Chantry of Andraste and the Divine. If the protagonist decides to go against the Divine by siding with the mages or the templars, for instance, the protagonist could be a 'victim' of the Inquisition. The original Inquisition hunted down mages and heretics, so I'm curious why the current organization is named after the original Inquisition, especially if the protagonist can be a mage (or pro-mage).

[Chaos Lord Malek]

Yes and Yes. (probably between Chantry led by Divine, and Templars led by *insert name*(dependant on Origin choices in Broken Circle and Anvil of Void)

[Fredward]

Yes. Also the thread title makes my left eye twitch.

[esper]

LobselVith8 wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

esper wrote...

An option to be a part of it also imply the option to not be.

We will either be the Inqusition or the victim.

Though the option to join or opposse would of course be the dream scenerio, I just don't think it is realistic. 

If you consider yourself a Victim that means you feel that the Inquisition' s goals would ultimately be successful regardless of player choice, there Is a possibility they could fail... depending on you, at least IMO. 

Hypothetically speaking, it could simply be that one might view the Inquisition as an organization of antagonists if the group consists of people like Cassandra and Leliana (and any Seekers allied to Divine Justina V), if the protagonist is against the Chantry of Andraste and the Divine. If the protagonist decides to go against the Divine by siding with the mages or the templars, for instance, the protagonist could be a 'victim' of the Inquisition. The original Inquisition hunted down mages and heretics, so I'm curious why the current organization is named after the original Inquisition, especially if the protagonist can be a mage (or pro-mage).

If we are pursued by the Inqusition for some crimes we might not have commited, or we is just pursued for being a mage, then I see us as a 'victim'. Victim does not imply total victory from the Inqusition side, merely that they suceeded in uprooting and changing the former life of the PC against the PC's will.

Basically if the Inqustion make our PC suffer, then the PC is a victim. It doesn't mean that the Inqustion will win in the long run.

(In the victim scenerio of course)

[The Six Path of Pain]

I've said it once and i'll say it again...I want to destroy both sides >

[ElitePinecone]

esper wrote...
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The player is the Inquisitor. We aren't a victim of the Inquisition, we lead it from its beginning.

LobselVith8 wrote...
The original Inquisition hunted down mages and heretics, so I'm curious why the current organization is named after the original Inquisition, especially if the protagonist can be a mage (or pro-mage).

The goals and aims of the organisations can be radically different, even if they share a name. It looks like the modern Inquisition has little if anything in common with the historical one, except that "Inquisition" best describes what it is that they do. 

A prolonged campaign to uncover threats or hostile forces through investigation, spying, epic journeying, politics, diplomacy, etc is still an "Inquisition" - even if the targets this time aren't necessarily mages. 

[esper]

ElitePinecone wrote...

esper wrote...
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The player is the Inquisitor. We aren't a victim of the Inquisition, we lead it from its beginning.

LobselVith8 wrote...
The original Inquisition hunted down mages and heretics, so I'm curious why the current organization is named after the original Inquisition, especially if the protagonist can be a mage (or pro-mage).

The goals and aims of the organisations can be radically different, even if they share a name. It looks like the modern Inquisition has little if anything in common with the historical one, except that "Inquisition" best describes what it is that they do. 

A prolonged campaign to uncover threats or hostile forces through investigation, spying, epic journeying, politics, diplomacy, etc is still an "Inquisition" - even if the targets this time aren't necessarily mages. 

Oh... I agree that is most likely, but quite frankly we don't know. It has not been confirmed. (But yes I do think all hope is lost)

The game is not out yet, and FreshIeye scenerio of us being either for and against I still my dream scenerio and I was simply explaining to him what I meant wiht the term 'victim'. I know it likely won't happen, but we don't actually know.

Because honestly. I don't want to play an inqustitor. The name itself is a turn off for me and one of the reason I am not very euthustiastic about da:I right now.

[Heimdall]

I suspect the inquisition will start out consisting largely of Cassandra and Leliana's Seeker faction, but grow beyond that under the PC's influence.

[esper]

Lord Aesir wrote...

I suspect the inquisition will start out consisting largely of Cassandra and Leliana's Seeker faction, but grow beyond that under the PC's influence.

I cannot see how. We were promised to not be forced working for the Chanrty. And Cassandra and Leliana likely represent the pro-chantry faction.

[LobselVith8]

ElitePinecone wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

The original Inquisition hunted down mages and heretics, so I'm curious why the current organization is named after the original Inquisition, especially if the protagonist can be a mage (or pro-mage).

The goals and aims of the organisations can be radically different, even if they share a name. It looks like the modern Inquisition has little if anything in common with the historical one, except that "Inquisition" best describes what it is that they do. 

A prolonged campaign to uncover threats or hostile forces through investigation, spying, epic journeying, politics, diplomacy, etc is still an "Inquisition" - even if the targets this time aren't necessarily mages. 

Sure, the new Inquisition is possibly different, but that doesn't explain why the new organization is named after a group that was said to have lead a "reign of terror" in it's day. There are disparaging connotations associated with what the original Inquisition was.

[AlexanderCousland]

Cassandra says "not all of us desire war"
Pro-Chantry does not mean Anti-Mage or Pro-Templar, especially in these times.
Even so, I highly doubt they would have npc's calling us "Inquisitor" the whole dammed game,
that would make voice acting very....difficult.

NPC: "Inquisitor, my love, where have you been?":sick:

Modifié par FreshIstay, 20 janvier 2013 - 04:53 .

[n7stormrunner]

why not they had people do it in da: o with warden and somewhat less glaringly with hawke in 2.

[esper]

FreshIstay wrote...

Cassandra says "not all of us desire war"
Pro-Chantry does not mean Anti-Mage or Pro-Templar, especially in these times.
Even so, I highly doubt they would have npc's calling us "Inquisitor" the whole dammed game,
that would make voice acting very....difficult.

NPC: "Inquisitor, my love, where have you been?"

Some of us is Anti-chantry, you know. We simply do not want to help the chantry regain the military it has lost with the mages and templars, and while we might be forced to I do so due to circumstances, I do not want to be a character who thinks it is a good idea.

And that is a good reason why I do not like the inquisitor title. People calling me it all the bloody time.

[Dr. Doctor]

I'm kind of thinking the Inquisiton is going to be like it's Warhammer 40k counterpart in that it's a group that exists to defend the empire (in this case Orlais) from internal and external threats.

I wonder if Cassandra was looking for the truth about Hawke in hopes of recruiting him for the Inquisition, considering that Leliana also talked about looking for the Warden maybe he was under consideration as well. Maybe the Inquisition is the DA equivalent of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, an independent group that seeks to covertly deal with threats to the stability of Thedas.

[AlexanderCousland]

esper wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

Cassandra says "not all of us desire war"
Pro-Chantry does not mean Anti-Mage or Pro-Templar, especially in these times.
Even so, I highly doubt they would have npc's calling us "Inquisitor" the whole dammed game,
that would make voice acting very....difficult.

NPC: "Inquisitor, my love, where have you been?"

Some of us is Anti-chantry, you know. We simply do not want to help the chantry regain the military it has lost with the mages and templars, and while we might be forced to I do so due to circumstances, I do not want to be a character who thinks it is a good idea.

And that is a good reason why I do not like the inquisitor title. People calling me it all the bloody time.

We' ll see how it plays out, If we aren' t forced to choose between Mage,'s or Templar' s I dont see how we will be forced to choose Chantry...hell, we could be picking countries, Tevinter, Orlais, (Ferelden,Nevarra)... and on top of that there seems to be a heavier focus on the return of dragon's for this game so....we will see. 

[esper]

FreshIstay wrote...

esper wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

Cassandra says "not all of us desire war"
Pro-Chantry does not mean Anti-Mage or Pro-Templar, especially in these times.
Even so, I highly doubt they would have npc's calling us "Inquisitor" the whole dammed game,
that would make voice acting very....difficult.

NPC: "Inquisitor, my love, where have you been?"

Some of us is Anti-chantry, you know. We simply do not want to help the chantry regain the military it has lost with the mages and templars, and while we might be forced to I do so due to circumstances, I do not want to be a character who thinks it is a good idea.

And that is a good reason why I do not like the inquisitor title. People calling me it all the bloody time.

We' ll see how it plays out, If we aren' t forced to choose between Mage,'s or Templar' s I dont see how we will be forced to choose Chantry...hell, we could be picking countries, Tevinter, Orlais, (Ferelden,Nevarra)... and on top of that there seems to be a heavier focus on the return of dragon's for this game so....we will see. 

I doubt we will be picking Countries. Much more likely is it that we will be forced to pick a side in the Orleasan civil war. It is one choice which is contained and can have great effect in game.

[Peer of the Empire]

I shall be the greatest Inquisitor

[Darth Krytie]

Perhaps we're not the Inquisitor but work for them, whoever they are. And who we are either forwards their goals or undermines them? Perhaps.

[ElitePinecone]

LobselVith8 wrote...
Sure, the new Inquisition is possibly different, but that doesn't explain why the new organization is named after a group that was said to have lead a "reign of terror" in it's day. There are disparaging connotations associated with what the original Inquisition was.

Allan Schumaker briefly talked about that a while ago, he said something like while they were aware of the negative connotations of "Inquisition", the recognisability and cool factor of the name were too much to pass up. If they're aiming to encapsulate what the DA3 organisation does in one word, "Inquisition" would be the best one - far better than "group of people all united against a common threat and battling that threat by seeking out evil in the world and uncovering mysterious forces through various means". 

Linguistically the term doesn't need to refer to a religious institution rife with torture and cruelty - it can mean *any* institution or organisation that has "looking into things" as its major aim. There are disparaging connotations, perhaps, but not necessarily. Given that the player seems to have a lot of control over the direction and methods of the Inquisition, subverting that "torture and terror" trope might even be an interesting exercise.  

Dr. Doctor wrote...
 Maybe the Inquisition is the DA equivalent of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, an independent group that seeks to covertly deal with threats to the stability of Thedas.

This looks like a good analogy, frankly. Unlike the Wardens, who have a specific aim (and who are really only good at *one thing*), the Inquisition looks like it ranges far and wide to uncover the truth behind chaos. 

[Zoe]

ElitePinecone wrote...
The player is the Inquisitor.

Hey, Elite, nothing has been announced yet, and some of us are still hoping not to be an inquisitor. 

[ElitePinecone]

 The marketing survey is quite hard to misinterpret. 

(Plus i'm pretty sure one or two of the devs have referred to the Inquisitor when posting on the BSN)