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[Omega2079]

No. I'll be waiting for the internet to react to the next game before I consider buying it.

[Wolfva2]

What's to worry about? I liked Omega, I liked ME1--3. I like what Bioware has put out so far. Sure, I don't like everything; some games I haven't played in their portfolio, and of the games I did play there were aspects I didn't like. That includes Omega. But unlike some people here, I don't fixate upon the few things I didn't like and obsess over them to the complete neglect of everything that was fun, until I reach the point of rabid angry gamer screaming "You're a fannnnbooiiiiiiiiI!!!!! They SUUCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!" until the very veins in my eyeballs shoot blood from the white hot rage that encompasses my very soul just because a freaking entertainment company didn't cater to every single one of my perceived likes. Instead, I judge the game in it's entirety. ALL of the good, with the bad. The great writing along with the mediocre. The decision choices I would make, and the lack of decisions I'd think were obvious. Everything. ME trilogy, as well as Omega, had far more positives then negatives, so I'm not worried.

If the next game isn't as good as the previous, oh well. Won't be the end of the world. Heck, I got Starcraft2 and couldn't get more then a 1/4 through it before I uninstalled it. Yet...I'm still alive. The world has continued to turn. Shocking, isn't it? My point being, some of ya'll take games WAY to seriously.

[Mcfly616]

Lol I like this guy ^^^

[crimzontearz]

a little yes

especially after the treatment the adjundants got

[Dean_the_Young]

thehomeworld wrote...

No Lev makes me worried about the next DLC in the sense that if its made to "impact" the story for the reaper war like Lev was suppose to do

Leviathan was never supposed to do that. It was an exposition piece that followed a plot hook of a chase for something that might help against the Reapers, but it was never presented as 'this will radically change the war and remake the plot.' That level of impact was a fan-invention.

The Leviathans are effectively what Javik was: a relic of the past that the Reapers had already trounced. They might be interesting, and they certainly provide more backstory and historical context, but they never challenged or changed the plot of the game.

[WhiteKnyght]

crimzontearz wrote...

a little yes

especially after the treatment the adjundants got

ME3 retconning the Adjutants from their presentation in Invasion to include mind control and teleportation was stupid.

Omega kept them true to what they were.

[crimzontearz]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

a little yes

especially after the treatment the adjundants got

ME3 retconning the Adjutants from their presentation in Invasion to include mind control and teleportation was stupid.

Omega kept them true to what they were.

which I find rather boring.....the devs were really excited about adding new gameplay to the game

[KevShep]

Wolfva2 wrote...

What's to worry about? I liked Omega, I liked ME1--3. I like what Bioware has put out so far. Sure, I don't like everything; some games I haven't played in their portfolio, and of the games I did play there were aspects I didn't like. That includes Omega. But unlike some people here, I don't fixate upon the few things I didn't like and obsess over them to the complete neglect of everything that was fun, until I reach the point of rabid angry gamer screaming "You're a fannnnbooiiiiiiiiI!!!!! They SUUCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!" until the very veins in my eyeballs shoot blood from the white hot rage that encompasses my very soul just because a freaking entertainment company didn't cater to every single one of my perceived likes. Instead, I judge the game in it's entirety. ALL of the good, with the bad. The great writing along with the mediocre. The decision choices I would make, and the lack of decisions I'd think were obvious. Everything. ME trilogy, as well as Omega, had far more positives then negatives, so I'm not worried.

If the next game isn't as good as the previous, oh well. Won't be the end of the world. Heck, I got Starcraft2 and couldn't get more then a 1/4 through it before I uninstalled it. Yet...I'm still alive. The world has continued to turn. Shocking, isn't it? My point being, some of ya'll take games WAY to seriously.

Keep in mind that alot of us..."fanboys"...hate so much is because the ending of ME3 ruined the all the good that was in the series. So there is no good with the bad, there is just the bad at that point.
 
Its like putting Barney the dinosaur in the game and saying that the reapers didnt huge and brush there teeth enough and thats why there doing the harvest every cycle. Sometimes the bad in a great game can absolutely destroy...ALL...of  the good in a game.

Modifié par KevShep, 19 janvier 2013 - 09:19 .

[Dean_the_Young]

I'm not sure what about Omega could really be taken as a warning sign, since the design intent behind Omega is blatantly different than the design intent a full game would have. Take the issues about how it doesn't impact the main story enough: well, it's an optional DLC. Besides that main plot-tangental stories have been criticized for being too close (and not being in the original game), DLC pretty much needs to present a self-contained storyline. That's just the nature of DLC, unless you want to break it up over multiple DLC or have an incomplete story addition. Linearity? Pretty much all of Mass Effect has been functionally linear, from ME1 to ME2.

Too much guns and not enough story? I'd disagree: Omega had equivalent amounts of character storylines and even more story-relevance than most ME2 loyalty missions did, which would be the closest equivalent content in role and function. Omega certainly had gameplay, but it wasn't absent of underlying story.

Omega certainly did a number of techniques and attempts I'd like the next game to do. The cumulative-choice outcomes of Aria's storyline was a good technique that more RPGs could benefit from, and the level design and combat scenarios were worth noting. class-specific interrupts could stand to be expanded, and more non-boss boss fights are good.

[Dean_the_Young]

KevShep wrote...

Wolfva2 wrote...

What's to worry about? I liked Omega, I liked ME1--3. I like what Bioware has put out so far. Sure, I don't like everything; some games I haven't played in their portfolio, and of the games I did play there were aspects I didn't like. That includes Omega. But unlike some people here, I don't fixate upon the few things I didn't like and obsess over them to the complete neglect of everything that was fun, until I reach the point of rabid angry gamer screaming "You're a fannnnbooiiiiiiiiI!!!!! They SUUCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!" until the very veins in my eyeballs shoot blood from the white hot rage that encompasses my very soul just because a freaking entertainment company didn't cater to every single one of my perceived likes. Instead, I judge the game in it's entirety. ALL of the good, with the bad. The great writing along with the mediocre. The decision choices I would make, and the lack of decisions I'd think were obvious. Everything. ME trilogy, as well as Omega, had far more positives then negatives, so I'm not worried.

If the next game isn't as good as the previous, oh well. Won't be the end of the world. Heck, I got Starcraft2 and couldn't get more then a 1/4 through it before I uninstalled it. Yet...I'm still alive. The world has continued to turn. Shocking, isn't it? My point being, some of ya'll take games WAY to seriously.

Keep in mind that alot of us..."fanboys"...hate so much is because the ending of ME3 ruined the all the good that was in the series. So there is no good with the bad, there is just the bad at that point.
 
Its like putting Barney the dinosaur in the game and saying that the reapers didnt huge and brush there teeth enough and thats why there doing the harvest every cycle. Sometimes the bad in a great game can absolutely destroy...ALL...of  the good in a game.

That still seems more on you for letting it affect you so drastically than the fault of the game itself. Plenty of people are quite able to accept flaws in something they otherwise enjoyed without letting it consume their perspective, and I'd be amazed if there aren't people or things that apply the same to you.

[darkway1]

I'm not really bothered to be honest.....Mass3's general approach seemed to lack what I loved about Mass1 and 2.......so if Mass4 follows in the foot steps of Mass3 then I simply won't buy it,not because Bioware has done right or wrong........it just simply won't interest me.

[KevShep]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Wolfva2 wrote...

What's to worry about? I liked Omega, I liked ME1--3. I like what Bioware has put out so far. Sure, I don't like everything; some games I haven't played in their portfolio, and of the games I did play there were aspects I didn't like. That includes Omega. But unlike some people here, I don't fixate upon the few things I didn't like and obsess over them to the complete neglect of everything that was fun, until I reach the point of rabid angry gamer screaming "You're a fannnnbooiiiiiiiiI!!!!! They SUUCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!" until the very veins in my eyeballs shoot blood from the white hot rage that encompasses my very soul just because a freaking entertainment company didn't cater to every single one of my perceived likes. Instead, I judge the game in it's entirety. ALL of the good, with the bad. The great writing along with the mediocre. The decision choices I would make, and the lack of decisions I'd think were obvious. Everything. ME trilogy, as well as Omega, had far more positives then negatives, so I'm not worried.

If the next game isn't as good as the previous, oh well. Won't be the end of the world. Heck, I got Starcraft2 and couldn't get more then a 1/4 through it before I uninstalled it. Yet...I'm still alive. The world has continued to turn. Shocking, isn't it? My point being, some of ya'll take games WAY to seriously.

Keep in mind that alot of us..."fanboys"...hate so much is because the ending of ME3 ruined the all the good that was in the series. So there is no good with the bad, there is just the bad at that point.
 
Its like putting Barney the dinosaur in the game and saying that the reapers didnt huge and brush there teeth enough and thats why there doing the harvest every cycle. Sometimes the bad in a great game can absolutely destroy...ALL...of  the good in a game.

That still seems more on you for letting it affect you so drastically than the fault of the game itself. Plenty of people are quite able to accept flaws in something they otherwise enjoyed without letting it consume their perspective, and I'd be amazed if there aren't people or things that apply the same to you.

There is no hidding it that the ending is STILL plot hole riddled with enough plot holes to kill the entire plot, so...Its not on me at all.

[Iakus]

Omega does not make me worried about Mass Effect 4
Mass Effect 3 makes me worried about Mass Effect 4

[Dean_the_Young]

KevShep wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Wolfva2 wrote...

What's to worry about? I liked Omega, I liked ME1--3. I like what Bioware has put out so far. Sure, I don't like everything; some games I haven't played in their portfolio, and of the games I did play there were aspects I didn't like. That includes Omega. But unlike some people here, I don't fixate upon the few things I didn't like and obsess over them to the complete neglect of everything that was fun, until I reach the point of rabid angry gamer screaming "You're a fannnnbooiiiiiiiiI!!!!! They SUUCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!" until the very veins in my eyeballs shoot blood from the white hot rage that encompasses my very soul just because a freaking entertainment company didn't cater to every single one of my perceived likes. Instead, I judge the game in it's entirety. ALL of the good, with the bad. The great writing along with the mediocre. The decision choices I would make, and the lack of decisions I'd think were obvious. Everything. ME trilogy, as well as Omega, had far more positives then negatives, so I'm not worried.

If the next game isn't as good as the previous, oh well. Won't be the end of the world. Heck, I got Starcraft2 and couldn't get more then a 1/4 through it before I uninstalled it. Yet...I'm still alive. The world has continued to turn. Shocking, isn't it? My point being, some of ya'll take games WAY to seriously.

Keep in mind that alot of us..."fanboys"...hate so much is because the ending of ME3 ruined the all the good that was in the series. So there is no good with the bad, there is just the bad at that point.
 
Its like putting Barney the dinosaur in the game and saying that the reapers didnt huge and brush there teeth enough and thats why there doing the harvest every cycle. Sometimes the bad in a great game can absolutely destroy...ALL...of  the good in a game.

That still seems more on you for letting it affect you so drastically than the fault of the game itself. Plenty of people are quite able to accept flaws in something they otherwise enjoyed without letting it consume their perspective, and I'd be amazed if there aren't people or things that apply the same to you.

There is no hidding it that the ending is STILL plot hole riddled with enough plot holes to kill the entire plot, so...Its not on me at all.

Since there exist a good number of people who can look at the same thing and not see the entire plot killed...

...it kind of is.

[KevShep]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Wolfva2 wrote...

What's to worry about? I liked Omega, I liked ME1--3. I like what Bioware has put out so far. Sure, I don't like everything; some games I haven't played in their portfolio, and of the games I did play there were aspects I didn't like. That includes Omega. But unlike some people here, I don't fixate upon the few things I didn't like and obsess over them to the complete neglect of everything that was fun, until I reach the point of rabid angry gamer screaming "You're a fannnnbooiiiiiiiiI!!!!! They SUUCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!" until the very veins in my eyeballs shoot blood from the white hot rage that encompasses my very soul just because a freaking entertainment company didn't cater to every single one of my perceived likes. Instead, I judge the game in it's entirety. ALL of the good, with the bad. The great writing along with the mediocre. The decision choices I would make, and the lack of decisions I'd think were obvious. Everything. ME trilogy, as well as Omega, had far more positives then negatives, so I'm not worried.

If the next game isn't as good as the previous, oh well. Won't be the end of the world. Heck, I got Starcraft2 and couldn't get more then a 1/4 through it before I uninstalled it. Yet...I'm still alive. The world has continued to turn. Shocking, isn't it? My point being, some of ya'll take games WAY to seriously.

Keep in mind that alot of us..."fanboys"...hate so much is because the ending of ME3 ruined the all the good that was in the series. So there is no good with the bad, there is just the bad at that point.
 
Its like putting Barney the dinosaur in the game and saying that the reapers didnt huge and brush there teeth enough and thats why there doing the harvest every cycle. Sometimes the bad in a great game can absolutely destroy...ALL...of  the good in a game.

That still seems more on you for letting it affect you so drastically than the fault of the game itself. Plenty of people are quite able to accept flaws in something they otherwise enjoyed without letting it consume their perspective, and I'd be amazed if there aren't people or things that apply the same to you.

There is no hidding it that the ending is STILL plot hole riddled with enough plot holes to kill the entire plot, so...Its not on me at all.

Since there exist a good number of people who can look at the same thing and not see the entire plot killed...

...it kind of is.

Let me give you an example: The reapers cant understand that what they are doing is wrong(harvesting) because they dont use any emotions at all behind there logic like we do(organics). Yet the reapers use indoctrination which in order to use they would have to understand emotional reasoning. How can the reapers use indoctrination but cant use that logic to understand and find a new solution?

Modifié par KevShep, 19 janvier 2013 - 10:04 .

[darkway1]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Wolfva2 wrote...

What's to worry about? I liked Omega, I liked ME1--3. I like what Bioware has put out so far. Sure, I don't like everything; some games I haven't played in their portfolio, and of the games I did play there were aspects I didn't like. That includes Omega. But unlike some people here, I don't fixate upon the few things I didn't like and obsess over them to the complete neglect of everything that was fun, until I reach the point of rabid angry gamer screaming "You're a fannnnbooiiiiiiiiI!!!!! They SUUCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!" until the very veins in my eyeballs shoot blood from the white hot rage that encompasses my very soul just because a freaking entertainment company didn't cater to every single one of my perceived likes. Instead, I judge the game in it's entirety. ALL of the good, with the bad. The great writing along with the mediocre. The decision choices I would make, and the lack of decisions I'd think were obvious. Everything. ME trilogy, as well as Omega, had far more positives then negatives, so I'm not worried.

If the next game isn't as good as the previous, oh well. Won't be the end of the world. Heck, I got Starcraft2 and couldn't get more then a 1/4 through it before I uninstalled it. Yet...I'm still alive. The world has continued to turn. Shocking, isn't it? My point being, some of ya'll take games WAY to seriously.

Keep in mind that alot of us..."fanboys"...hate so much is because the ending of ME3 ruined the all the good that was in the series. So there is no good with the bad, there is just the bad at that point.
 
Its like putting Barney the dinosaur in the game and saying that the reapers didnt huge and brush there teeth enough and thats why there doing the harvest every cycle. Sometimes the bad in a great game can absolutely destroy...ALL...of  the good in a game.

That still seems more on you for letting it affect you so drastically than the fault of the game itself. Plenty of people are quite able to accept flaws in something they otherwise enjoyed without letting it consume their perspective, and I'd be amazed if there aren't people or things that apply the same to you.

There is no hidding it that the ending is STILL plot hole riddled with enough plot holes to kill the entire plot, so...Its not on me at all.

Since there exist a good number of people who can look at the same thing and not see the entire plot killed...

...it kind of is.

So what are you saying.?.......if enough people say they enjoy plot riddled writting, then it suddenly becomes OK.???

[xsdob]

So can anyone actually name the writers who work at montreal? Or what the names of the people who wrote for omega are either?

[Mcfly616]

What plot holes?

[KevShep]

Mcfly616 wrote...

What plot holes?

Repaers cant find a new solution because they only use logic based on equations rather then emotional logic+ equations like organics do. This is why the reapers harvest every cycle because they see no other way.

However the reapers use indoctrination which means that they...WOULD...have access to OUR emotional logic(other wise they would not be able to indoctrinate at all)  to see that there is another solution if not many many more.

This is a huge plot and story breaking hole.

[Nitrocuban]

KevShep wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

What plot holes?

Repaers cant find a new solution because they only use logic based on equations rather then emotional logic+ equations like organics do. This is why the reapers harvest every cycle because they see no other way.

However the reapers use indoctrination which means that they...WOULD...have access to OUR emotional logic(other wise they would not be able to indoctrinate at all)  to see that there is another solution if not many many more.

This is a huge plot and story breaking hole.

What other solution?

[10K]

Only bad thing I can say about Omega is I thought it was ridiculous how Shepard's decisions influenced Aria personality. I never would of taken Aria as someone who cares what others think about the way she does things, let alone Shepard. So besides this and its price, Omega wasn't too bad. I had more fun in that one DLC than the entirety of ME3. So I don't think I'm too worried, but I'm still going to wait until more info on ME4 to make a final decision rather I will purchase it or not.

[KevShep]

Nitrocuban wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

What plot holes?

Repaers cant find a new solution because they only use logic based on equations rather then emotional logic+ equations like organics do. This is why the reapers harvest every cycle because they see no other way.

However the reapers use indoctrination which means that they...WOULD...have access to OUR emotional logic(other wise they would not be able to indoctrinate at all)  to see that there is another solution if not many many more.

This is a huge plot and story breaking hole.

What other solution?

had they used logic based on emotions they would have found that there are more solutions other then a solution based only on equations.

[StarcloudSWG]

 Yes, yes it does. The multiplayer studio does not understand story or story pacing. We can HOPE that the writers move en masse from Edmonton (which seems to be closing down) to Montreal, and bring with them the heavy story focus, but I'm not optimistic.

The multiplayer team is too shootyshootymovemovemovelevelandspawndesign focused to get a good story going.

[Mcfly616]

KevShep wrote...

Nitrocuban wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

What plot holes?

Repaers cant find a new solution because they only use logic based on equations rather then emotional logic+ equations like organics do. This is why the reapers harvest every cycle because they see no other way.

However the reapers use indoctrination which means that they...WOULD...have access to OUR emotional logic(other wise they would not be able to indoctrinate at all)  to see that there is another solution if not many many more.

This is a huge plot and story breaking hole.

What other solution?

had they used logic based on emotions they would have found that there are more solutions other then a solution based only on equations.

lolol that's not a plothole at all. You're assuming that because they have access to our minds that they should agree with our own emotional view on things? You didnt name a single plot hole.

You just listed a bunch of your assumptions and speculations as if they were cold hard facts. Keep trying....

Modifié par Mcfly616, 19 janvier 2013 - 11:17 .

[KevShep]

Mcfly616 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Nitrocuban wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

What plot holes?

Repaers cant find a new solution because they only use logic based on equations rather then emotional logic+ equations like organics do. This is why the reapers harvest every cycle because they see no other way.

However the reapers use indoctrination which means that they...WOULD...have access to OUR emotional logic(other wise they would not be able to indoctrinate at all)  to see that there is another solution if not many many more.

This is a huge plot and story breaking hole.

What other solution?

had they used logic based on emotions they would have found that there are more solutions other then a solution based only on equations.

lolol that's not a plothole at all. You're assuming that because they have access to our minds that they should agree with our own emotional view on things? You didnt name a single plot hole. You just listed a bunch of your assumptions and speculations as if they were cold hard facts.

It is a plot hole, here is how...

Do you see anything wrong with there "solution"? If yes then why?

If you answered both of those questions then they COULD have found a new solution.

Also that was only ONE plot hole, there are many many more.