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[BleedingUranium]

Destroy doesn't kill any civilians, though Arrival does. Arrival is far worse, though still necessary.

[Iamjdr]

That's your argument? I'm a slave? You do know soldiers follow and obey orders so by your logic they are all slaves thus shep is a slave anyways and yet I still choose to kill the reapers.

[BleedingUranium]

OperatingWookie wrote...

Iamjdr wrote...

I was told by Hackett .

A man chooses, a slave obeys.

And every single other ally you have. In fact, the only people that want something that involves the Reapers not dying are your enemies!

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 21 janvier 2013 - 01:51 .

[The Heretic of Time]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Which one of the options is the Control ending?

I'm glad you're here to not understand the point of this poll!

What makes you think I don't understand the point you're TRYING to make?

Also, the first option needs to be changed. It should be: Protagonist in coma and antagonist deactivated / in coma too.



PS: Even a dead god can dream.

[Aaleel]

OperatingWookie wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

1. No, I'm saying there is no excuse for it just like their is no exscuse for commiting genocide to stop a war.

Sacrificing soldiers is never genocide.

So, if this was WWII and we could win by nuking our allies and enemies at the same time, it would be okay?

If aliens attacked the Earth and all the nations got together and decided that the only way to stop them was to make a weapon that could do (x) times as much damage as a nuclear warhead.  But the enemy was concentrated in (insert country) and using it would wipe out the a large chunk of the surviving population of that country.

Would you deploy the weapon or let Earth be taken over and the human race become extinct?

[MegumiAzusa]

BleedingUranium wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Iamjdr wrote...

I was told by Hackett .

A man chooses, a slave obeys.

And every single other ally you have. In fact, the only people that want something that involves the Reapers not dying are your enemies!

But TIM is my BFF
Also a shining beacon for humanity, just look at his eyes.

[Red Panda]

BleedingUranium wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Iamjdr wrote...

I was told by Hackett .

A man chooses, a slave obeys.

And every single other ally you have. In fact, the only people that want something that involves the Reapers not dying are your enemies!

Doesn't mean you shouldn't think for yourself. Or does your loyalty blind you?

[Red Panda]

Iamjdr wrote...

That's your argument? I'm a slave? You do know soldiers follow and obey orders so by your logic they are all slaves thus shep is a slave anyways and yet I still choose to kill the reapers.

I'm telling you to think for yourself, and not let supposed superiors decide for you.

[Iamjdr]

Um I did think for myself hence the reapers are dead.supposed superiors huh? Don't know
Much about the military do you?

Modifié par Iamjdr, 21 janvier 2013 - 02:02 .

[Yate]

I didn't see the BECOME A DEMI-GOD WITH A SLAVE CTHULHU ROBOT ARMY option...

[BleedingUranium]

Yate wrote...

I didn't see the BECOME A DEMI-GOD WITH A SLAVE CTHULHU ROBOT ARMY option...

Neither did I.

[Iamjdr]

I mean is that really the Best argument for not picking destroy you can come up with? people who follow orders don't make there own choices and are slaves... Really? How about owning actual slaves(control) and taking away everyones right to decided for themselves (synthesis)

Modifié par Iamjdr, 21 janvier 2013 - 02:10 .

[Red Panda]

Iamjdr wrote...

Um I did think for myself hence the reapers are dead.supposed superiors huh? Don't know
Much about the military do you?

You're a spectre, not Hackett's lapdog.

You are the only person who understands the Reapers with your experiences with the beacons, and with your experiences with the reapers themselves.

You must think for yourself without outside influence, otherwise your choice is not your own, and as such, you are nothing more than a tool. You have the same results, but your method of selection was flawed.

[Red Panda]

Iamjdr wrote...

I mean is that really the beat argument for not picking destroy you can come up with? people who follow orders don't make there own choices and are slaves... Really? How about owning actual slaves(control) and taking away everyones right to decided for themselves (synthesis)

Not once did I argue against or for any ending choice.

You have simply been conditioned by this forum to think so.

[BleedingUranium]

OperatingWookie wrote...

You're a spectre, not Hackett's lapdog.

You are the only person who understands the Reapers with your experiences with the beacons, and with your experiences with the reapers themselves.

That's exactly why I know they must be destroyed.

You must think for yourself without outside influence, otherwise your choice is not your own, and as such, you are nothing more than a tool. You have the same results, but your method of selection was flawed.

"Moral decisions should not be made in a vacuum. If I do not ask the crew their opinions, I could miss crucial context."

Protangonists in stories exist to show the player/viewer/read what is right. Antagonists exist to show you what is wrong.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 21 janvier 2013 - 02:18 .

[Iamjdr]

Okay what exactly are you trying saying then? Did You just came to tell me I'm a slave cause I trust Hackett and everyone else that has been with me since the beginning trying to stop the reapers and choose to honor there hard work and sacrifices by doing just that when the time came?

[Red Panda]

BleedingUranium wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

You're a spectre, not Hackett's lapdog.

You are the only person who understands the Reapers with your experiences with the beacons, and with your experiences with the reapers themselves.

That's exactly why I know they must be destroyed.

You must think for yourself without outside influence, otherwise your choice is not your own, and as such, you are nothing more than a tool. You have the same results, but your method of selection was flawed.

"Moral decisions should not be made in a vacuum. If I do not ask the crew their opinions, I could miss crucial context."

Your reasoning is sound, however I find your second point to be incorrect. It is not a vacuum on the citadel. The catalyst fills that vacuum. It is Shepard's choice alone.

[Red Panda]

Iamjdr wrote...

Okay what exactly are you trying saying then? Did You just came to tell me I'm a slave cause I trust Hackett and everyone else that has been with me since the beginning trying to stop the reapers and choose to honor there hard work and sacrifices by doing just that when the time came?

I want you to make up your own mind based on what you know. That's it.

[BleedingUranium]

OperatingWookie wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

"Moral decisions should not be made in a vacuum. If I do not ask the crew their opinions, I could miss crucial context."

Your reasoning is sound, however I find your second point to be incorrect. It is not a vacuum on the citadel. The catalyst fills that vacuum. It is Shepard's choice alone.

The only advice you get is from the admited leader of the main antagonists of the series, and none from your allies, and that's okay? Nothing could possibly go wrong!

[Iamjdr]

Um okay that's exactly what I did so what are you even talking about? Hackett said dead reapers are how we win this I agreed Tim said we should control them I disagreed the child said that I could kill myself and everything would be fine and dandy... I shot the tube and blew his ass to hell along with the rest of those reaper bastards.

[BleedingUranium]

OperatingWookie wrote...

Iamjdr wrote...

Okay what exactly are you trying saying then? Did You just came to tell me I'm a slave cause I trust Hackett and everyone else that has been with me since the beginning trying to stop the reapers and choose to honor there hard work and sacrifices by doing just that when the time came?

I want you to make up your own mind based on what you know. That's it.

And I learned what I now know by listening to other people and their views, allies and enemies. That knowledge gives me the context I need to know destroying the Reapers is the only option.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 21 janvier 2013 - 02:27 .

[Red Panda]

BleedingUranium wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

"Moral decisions should not be made in a vacuum. If I do not ask the crew their opinions, I could miss crucial context."

Your reasoning is sound, however I find your second point to be incorrect. It is not a vacuum on the citadel. The catalyst fills that vacuum. It is Shepard's choice alone.

The only advice you get is from the admited leader of the main antagonists of the series, and none from your allies, and that's okay? Nothing could possibly go wrong!

Your allies are not there.

Also, said antagonist has helped you get to that point, it is not unreasonable to listen to what he has to say. Trusting it is one thing, but hearing it out is a viable course of action. What you do next must be based on your choice and careful consideration. It does not force you to pick anything. That alone is up to you.

[The Heretic of Time]

Off-topic;

BleedingUranium, your signature is wrong. A steak tastes really good, ME3 does not. So ME3 is not a steak, but a badly made burger.

[BleedingUranium]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Off-topic;

BleedingUranium, your signature is wrong. A steak tastes really good, ME3 does not. So ME3 is not a steak, but a badly made burger.

Thank you for proving my signature correct.

[Iamjdr]

So because my friends arnt with me at the moment I'm just supposed to forget everything I've learn with them and even taught them up until that point. making everything they have sacrificed and died for meaningless?