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[BleedingUranium]

Seboist wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Why is any criticism of the writing met with a "why are you here then"?

IT is dead and its corpse is rotting in some alleyway.

IT is like Waffen-SS troops in Berlin circa April 1945 or Qaddafi loyalists in Sirte in October of 2011, not quite dead but not long for this world.

You'll still have some diehards continue to believe in it after they get a metaphorical kick to the teeth with the next DLC not being their "reveal" though.

You seem to be under the false impression that IT needs further content.

[Oni Changas]

Nothing to see here.

You wanna talk? Talk to Aria.

[CynicalShep]

Fantastic poll. Surely the author must be a social engineering prodigy

[Sebby]

BleedingUranium wrote...

You seem to be under the false impression that IT needs further content.

Then why do you ITers need a "reveal"? Be content with what you have and be done with it.

[BleedingUranium]

Seboist wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

You seem to be under the false impression that IT needs further content.

Then why do you ITers need a "reveal"? Be content with what you have and be done with it.

Because the game ends at the beam run. The Reapers are still there, and everyone's still fighting. The war's not over.

[CynicalShep]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Seboist wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

You seem to be under the false impression that IT needs further content.

Then why do you ITers need a "reveal"? Be content with what you have and be done with it.

Because the game ends at the beam run. The Reapers are still there, and everyone's still fighting. The war's not over.

Well, I say the game ends at the Minuteman Station. There is an explosion, Shepard is delirious and everything else happens in his head

[BleedingUranium]

You could say that, but getting lased by Harby makes the most sense from a storytelling perspective, and has all the signs. The fact that it's so obvious there is why the "but then the dream could start anywhere" line doesn't apply.

[CynicalShep]

BleedingUranium wrote...

You could say that, but getting lased by Harby makes the most sense from a storytelling perspective, and has all the signs. The fact that it's so obvious there is why the "but then the dream could start anywhere" line doesn't apply.

Or maybe he's still lying on the Lazarus Project bed?

[DirtySHISN0]

lol nice poll OP.

10/10 would vote for protagonist death again.

[Sebby]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Seboist wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

You seem to be under the false impression that IT needs further content.

Then why do you ITers need a "reveal"? Be content with what you have and be done with it.

Because the game ends at the beam run. The Reapers are still there, and everyone's still fighting. The war's not over.

Let me get this straight, they released the game without a proper ending and risked turning off the majority of fans with a bunch of poor false endings, then decided to waste money and continue to mislead their fans with a free DLC that expanded on these false endings and now after a year since release when most have moved on, risk alienating what's left of their fanbase with an "IT reveal"?

I'm starting to hear Rod Serling's voice and the Twilight Zone theme when thinking about such a brilliant marketing ploy.

Modifié par Seboist, 22 janvier 2013 - 11:16 .

[BleedingUranium]

If you want to say ME3 has no proper ending (with IT), then you must also say ME1 and 2 didn't either.

EC was required. Bioware was getting death threads, there were stories on BBC, and people were trying to sue.

"risk alienating what's left of their fanbase with an "IT reveal"?" It's just you and your little group that would be unhappy.

[dorktainian]

Seboist wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Seboist wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

You seem to be under the false impression that IT needs further content.

Then why do you ITers need a "reveal"? Be content with what you have and be done with it.

Because the game ends at the beam run. The Reapers are still there, and everyone's still fighting. The war's not over.

Let me get this straight, they released the game without a proper ending and risked turning off the majority of fans with a bunch of poor false endings, then decided to waste money and continue to mislead their fans with a free DLC that expanded on these false endings and now after a year since release when most have moved on, risk alienating what's left of their fanbase with an "IT reveal"?

I'm starting to hear Rod Serling's voice and the Twilight Zone theme when thinking about such a brilliant marketing ploy.

pretty much.  and your point is?.....IT lover.    

[Sebby]

The same company that takes content out of the game to sell as day-1 DLC would release a game without an ending? LMAO

This is hysterical. I take back my twilight zone comment, that has nothing on the realm of the illogical that is IT.

What's even better, even if this was true, you ITers are cheering on a terrible precedent for consumers.

Modifié par Seboist, 22 janvier 2013 - 11:31 .

[BleedingUranium]

IT isn't true because you don't like how DLC works? That's a new one.

[MegumiAzusa]

BleedingUranium wrote...

You seem to be under the false impression that IT needs further content.

BleedingUranium wrote...

If you want to say ME3 has no proper ending (with IT), then you must also say ME1 and 2 didn't either.

EC was required. Bioware was getting death threads, there were stories on BBC, and people were trying to sue.

"risk alienating what's left of their fanbase with an "IT reveal"?" It's just you and your little group that would be unhappy.

I like IT in some way, but what you said here is wrong.
You knew with ME1 that ME is at least planned as a trilogy, so at the end of ME3 you expected it wraps things up to a good portion. That is also what BWs ad campaign was about, to save the galaxy or at least take back earth. With IT both points are still yet to happen while the common explanation wraps everything up.
Most people can't see that the game itself is basically the ending, which results in massive missquotes, especially about the A, B, C stuff.

Each has a lot going for itself and both sides here should finally stop their "this is the one true path" crusade.

Also the number of people that wouldn't be happy with an IT reveal is about the same as the number of people that wouldn't be happy if BW plainly states "it's literal, deal with it" and makes games based on that.

[BleedingUranium]

That doesn't change that IT doesn't need additional content to be true. Mass Effect's story would need more content to be finished, but that's not a point against IT.

[TJBartlemus]

BleedingUranium wrote...

That doesn't change that IT doesn't need additional content to be true. Mass Effect's story would need more content to be finished, but that's not a point against IT.

I agree that IT doesn't need DLC or additional content to be true or confirmed. However it would be certainly nice to have that content. If the next DLC isn't IT based, I'm sure it will deter a lot of supporters totally due to dashed dreams of long awaited satisfaction, but it won't affect the validity of IT.

Really IT has everything to gain from the upcoming DLC and nothing to lose.

[BleedingUranium]

TJBartlemus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

That doesn't change that IT doesn't need additional content to be true. Mass Effect's story would need more content to be finished, but that's not a point against IT.

I agree that IT doesn't need DLC or additional content to be true or confirmed. However it would be certainly nice to have that content. If the next DLC isn't IT based, I'm sure it will deter a lot of supporters totally due to dashed dreams of long awaited satisfaction, but it won't affect the validity of IT.

Really IT has everything to gain from the upcoming DLC and nothing to lose.

Right, that's what I was trying to say TJ.

[Kel Riever]

You forgot the yellow choice (sorry if it has been mentioned)

Protagonist dies, Antagonist lives, and then dies but not because of the Protagonist.

Honestly I doubt it would change a whole lot.

Excellent work though, OP. I approve!

[Malstrife]

My 2 cents about the next DLC...

If IT is not done, or even mentioned, it dies. No possibility of if happening/ever happened in that case.

[TJBartlemus]

BleedingUranium wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

That doesn't change that IT doesn't need additional content to be true. Mass Effect's story would need more content to be finished, but that's not a point against IT.

I agree that IT doesn't need DLC or additional content to be true or confirmed. However it would be certainly nice to have that content. If the next DLC isn't IT based, I'm sure it will deter a lot of supporters totally due to dashed dreams of long awaited satisfaction, but it won't affect the validity of IT.

Really IT has everything to gain from the upcoming DLC and nothing to lose.

Right, that's what I was trying to say TJ.

[BansheeOwnage]

Kel Riever wrote...

You forgot the yellow choice (sorry if it has been mentioned)

Protagonist dies, Antagonist lives, and then dies but not because of the Protagonist.

Honestly I doubt it would change a whole lot.

Excellent work though, OP. I approve!

I think he just tried to make it simple and do the default 3 from the base game.