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[metatheurgist]

I'll try to suggest some that haven't been mentioned

The Awakening 2011
Bitten 2008
The Conjuring 2013
Cronos 1991
Dead Silence 2007
Dagon 2001
Deep in the Darkness 2014
The Faculty
Ginger Snaps (all 3, 2000+)
Growth 2009
John Dies at the End 2012
Haunter 2013
May 2002
Midnight Meat Train 2008
The Mist 2007
Near Dark 1987
Neverlake 2013
Oculus 2014
Odd Thomas 2013
The Ruins
Season of the Witch 2011
Sinister 2012
Stake Land 2010
Tremors
Town Creek 2009
Trick 'r Treat 2008
You're Next 2013

They range from comedy to gruesome. Some are just watchable but have fun ideas.

[mybudgee]

Sinister hella sucked

[TheChris92]

Låt den Rätte Komma In/Let the Right One In -- One of the best horror movies of our modern time

Cabin in the Woods

Videodrome

The Dead Zone

Evil Dead 2

The Birds

Psycho

Nattevagten/Nightwatch (Nikolaj Coster Waldau's best performance)

Sunshine

Jacob's Ladder

[Neoleviathan]

Could The Conversation count as a horror film?
Harrison Ford is in it. He's crazy young in this role... & he is also creepy and sinister. It's pretty interesting to watch him play a role like that, he could do terrifying really well.
Fear of people, fear of murder, spying, with a sense of loneliness and doom kind of give this film a horror feel. The ending is unforgettable.

[bEVEsthda]

Ok. I have two contributions that haven't been mentioned before.

 

Dead Calm  (truly magnificent)

The Keep   (quite OK)

 

otherwise

 

Alien   (Great)
The Thing  (Carpenter)    (Great)

Poltergeist   (quite OK)

Nightmare on Elm Street  (Good)

Sleepy Hollow  (Good)

Nightwatch   (Bornedal)  (Great)

 

'Let the Right One In' is not a Horror movie, rather some kind of feelgood fantasy.

'Brain Dead' and 'Bad Taste' are comedies

 

For some reason, I've never been impressed with classics like The Shining or The Exorcist. I mean The Shining is a phenomenally well made movie, acting, music, sounds, everything, but it never scared me. Never found Hitchkock movies particularly scary either. Psycho is just a detached observation for me. There was one though, I think it's called 'Gaslight'?

 

Thinking about this, I think there are three things that sabotage a Horror movie for me. Failure to care for any character. The 'everybody-is-going-to-die-anyway' obviousness permeating the structure or story. "Let's leave our guns on this table/Let's split up and wander about alone" type of contrieved and idiotic story elements.

[bEVEsthda]

Then there's Spielberg's  'Duel'.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

The Omen

Alien movies

Constantine

The Shining

Saw 1

Sleepy Hollow

Few ones I don't remember their names

 

and

 

[Dominus]

• Beetlejuice
• Beetlejuice
• Beetlejuice
• Donnie Darko
• Interview With the Vampire
• Troll 2

[TheChris92]

'Let the Right One In' is not a Horror movie, rather some kind of feelgood fantasy.

I'll start out by saying that what makes a film scary, unnerving is so bundled up in interpration that it's impossible to create a consensus opinion.

Let The Right One In isn't scary in the same sense of how one would have found The Birds scary or Cronenberg's earlier flicks -- It's intriguing approach to a lovestory with horror elements were executed to such satisfactory degree that it deserved a place, and it's drendled with an intense atmosphere of dread --- It's just as well too, because you could also arguably place Cape Fear or Jacob's Ladder on such a list, even though it's more or less closer to a psychological thriller as much as that of Silence of the Lambs. The Alien franchise, for instance, never came off as a horror film for me as much as it felt like an action flick by conveying the usual tropes of action films.

[Roamingmachine]

Event Horizon. Just thinking about that movie right now is making me shudder

[bEVEsthda]

I'll start out by saying that what makes a film scary, unnerving is so bundled up in interpration that it's impossible to create a consensus opinion.

Let The Right One In isn't scary in the same sense of how one would have found The Birds scary or Cronenberg's earlier flicks -- It's intriguing approach to a lovestory with horror elements were executed to such satisfactory degree that it deserved a place, and it's drendled with an intense atmosphere of dread --- It's just as well too, because you could also arguably place Cape Fear or Jacob's Ladder on such a list, even though it's more or less closer to a psychological thriller as much as that of Silence of the Lambs. The Alien franchise, for instance, never came off as a horror film for me as much as it felt like an action flick by conveying the usual tropes of action films.

 

Cape Fear is a horror movie. It's also a thriller I suppose, but those genre's can be close.

 

A contribution to getting the bearings straight on the "Alien franchise":

'Alien', the first one, is definitely a horror movie. Science Fiction Horror movie if you want. And the only one that is a horror movie.

'Aliens', the second, is an action thriller or actually even a war movie.

'Alien 3', the third movie, is a poetic, often beautiful, dystopia about the human condition and dying. Greatly underrated, IMO.

'Alien 4', the fourth movie, is rubbish. As poor reputation as it has, it's still overrated IMO, just like its french director, but maybe not quite that much overrated.

[TheChris92]

Cape Fear is a horror movie. It's also a thriller I suppose, but those genre's can be close.

 

A contribution to getting the bearings straight on the "Alien franchise":

'Alien', the first one, is definitely a horror movie. Science Fiction Horror movie if you want. And the only one that is a horror movie.

'Aliens', the second, is an action thriller or actually even a war movie.

'Alien 3', the third movie, is a poetic, often beautiful, dystopia about the human condition and dying. Greatly underrated, IMO.

'Alien 4', the fourth movie, is rubbish. As poor reputation as it has, it's still overrated IMO, just like its french director, but maybe not quite that much overrated.

No, that it is not -- It's a psychological thriller, which aims to create intensity, anxiety in its pacing in a somewhat similar fashion to that of the horror genre, or that of crime thrillers, just like Lambs & Scorcese's other film Shutter Island. It's not really a horror film though. But this discussion is futile.

Alien isn't what I'd classify as a true horror film -- It's closer to being a glorified science-fiction-action-flick with some nasty looking monsters. Monsters/Aliens=/=horror. If you want to argue that cheap jump-scares and nasty-looking monsters makes a horror film, a horror film, then I got a car to sell you.

I'm sure you can see where this discussion will go so let's end it here.

[bEVEsthda]

No, that it is not -- It's a psychological thriller, which aims to create intensity, anxiety in its pacing in a somewhat similar fashion to that of the horror genre, just like Lambs & Scorcese's other film Shutter Island. It's not really a horror film though. But this discussion is futile.

Alien isn't what classify as a true horror film -- It's closer to being a glorified science-fiction-action-flick with some nasty looking monsters. Monsters/Aliens=/=horror. If you want to argue that cheap jump-scares and nasty-looking monsters makes a horror film, a horror film, then I got a car to sell you.

I'm sure you can see where this discussion will go so let's end it here.

 

'Alien' a "glorified science-fiction-action-flick"?

... - Have you even seen the movie?

How it is "glorified"?

science-fiction or not has nothing to do with anything.

"action-flick"???    - Where's the "action"?  Huh?  - And how is it a "flick"?

 

You're right about one thing. There's no point to this.

[TheChris92]

'Alien' a "glorified science-fiction-action-flick"?

... - Have you even seen the movie?

How it is "glorified"?

science-fiction or not has nothing to do with anything.

"action-flick"???    - Where's the "action"?  Huh?  - And how is it a "flick"?

 

You're right about one thing. There's no point to this.

If you need to ask questions like that then I doubt you've watched it yourself. It's not a horror film -- It plays with tropes of horror by including some space alien monsters, and the occasional jump scares -- I've watched my share of horror flicks to distinquish them apart if you want to question my insight so badly.

Going back to what I originally said about that particular Swedish horror-film, I could add some arguments to my case of why it is definitely a horror film but I think we've reached the point where such debate is useless. Good day to you, sir

[Ren Roche]

Movies that didn't solely rely on jumpscares and managed to perfectly capture an atmosphere of isolation and helplessness. 

 

 

 

[bEVEsthda]

If you need to ask questions like that then I doubt you've watched it yourself. It's not a horror film -- It plays with tropes of horror by including some space alien monsters, and the occasional jump scares -- I've watched my share of horror flicks to distinquish them apart if you want to question my insight so badly.

Going back to what I originally said about that particular Swedish horror-film, I could add some arguments to my case of why it is definitely a horror film but I think we've reached the point where such debate is useless. Good day to you, sir

 

 - A Horror movie is distinguished by playing on primal fears and "jump scares". So that is nothing of "plays with tropes of horror". It's what it is. I now know that you haven't seen the movie. Both by the way you avoid answering that particular question and by your assumption that it's possible to classify Alien as an action movie. You've probably seen Alien 4 Resurrection and then assumed all the movies are like that? Also, Psychological Thriller, Psychological Horror movie, and Horror movie are overlapping genres, not excluding genres.

 

Alien has been commonly classified as a Horror movie almost everywhere, since early '80ies. It's also the tale I got at my university's film studio. What makes it so is the movie's underlying form. Science Fiction is just a surface attribute.

If you just quickly check Wikipedia, for instance, you will see that they classify 'Alien' as a Horror movie, and nothing else.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Alien_(film)

And by all means, rent the movie and see it. The original, not 'directors cut'. You never see the monster fully or clearly in the original.

And yes, 'Let the Right One In' is also classified as a Horror Movie. But to me, it feels it is so by inherited secondary attributes. I personally failed to see that there were any ominous negative tension in the movie or a single scary scene. But I suppose that could be argued to be subjective.

[Dominus]

The direction of that conversation goes about the same way as "What is an RPG?", asking how much of a given element from a genre puts it in one category or another. I personally think it's a SciFi-Horror-Dating Simulator with Waifu elements.

A Horror movie is distinguished by playing on primal fears and "jump scares".

At least that much is correct, via hyah.

[TheChris92]

- A Horror movie is distinguished by playing on primal fears and "jump scares". So that is nothing of

Do you pick up all your arguments from wikipedia? Your biased opinions have been noted but what you're doing now is initiating a useless discussion that won't go anywhere. Jump-scares are cheap forms of creating horror and isn't a defining factor of it. Now when I say cheap I'm obviously talking biased because that's generally the point I was trying to make earlier. Where Alien and its sequelslost me, lies in the same area of where a game like Dead Space lost me as a horror game. It was by bandon all subtlety, atmosphere in exchange for cheap jump scares and nasty-looking monsters jumping out of vent to get a kick out of you. That's what Alien did. It did not scare it startled.
 

Now know that you haven't seen the movie. Both by the way you avoid answering that particular question and by your assumption that it's possible to classify Alien as an action movie. You've probably seen Alien 4 Resurrection and then assumed all the movies are like that?

You presume to know at least -- Why should I feel obligated to carry on a useless discussion like this? Any argument I'd make would fall on deaf ears. I get that you love the film for what its rather cheap affair of being a horror film and that's fine. But I would not much less classify it as horror anymore than I would with Scorcese's Cape Fear.

Also, Psychological Thriller, Psychological Horror movie, and Horror movie are overlapping genres, not excluding genres.

*Sigh* I'm getting a little tired of this. A Thriller is not horror, they are mutually exclusive genres. There are movies where different tropes of genres are utilized -- Thriller shares some common traits with horror, that is to say the sense of anxiety in its plots pacing and goal to create tension. You'll find plenty of people, placing films into different boxes, depending on what they think it was mostly leaning towards.
 

Alien has been commonly classified as a Horror movie almost everywhere, since early '80ies. It's also the tale I got at my university's film studio. What makes it so is the movie's underlying form. Science Fiction is just a surface attribute.
If you just quickly check Wikipedia, for instance, you will see that they classify 'Alien' as a Horror movie, and nothing else.
http://en.wikipedia....ki/Alien_(film)

Commonly, as in wikipedia said so -- Well in that case it must be true, right?. Lots of films have been classified as horror without even being it -- Like the Saw movies, if you wanna group up nauseating gore with about as much subtlety and atmosphere as a sperm whale in airplane luggage compartment as horror then be my guest, because that's essentially what Alien felt to me. When it wasn't being a sci-fi action movie, it was being discount horror with some jump scares. Do you see where this discussion is going? Just drop it.
 

'Let the Right One In' is also classified as a Horror Movie. But to me, it feels it is so by inherited secondary attributes. I personally failed to see that there were any ominous negative tension in the movie or a single scary scene. But I suppose that could be argued to be subjective.

Yes, it could indeed -- It is a horror film more than it is anything else. But I'm tired of arguing with you, so let's just drop it here. if you absolutely feel some sort of urge to prove your opinion to me then send a PM or something.

[bEVEsthda]

I think your approach to this, is more from if it has the particular attributes (and well executed) of Horror movies that you particularly appreciate and like.

So, a movie you don't find these things in, or aren't appreciable enough, can't be a Horror movie. Horror movie, to you is also a sort of quality stamp? Yes?

 

I get that you want to be "biased". It's all over your tone throughout this. But that, to me, is a different issue. So you don't like Alien (I still doubt you've seen it ), fine. It's slightly offensive - and extremely unnecessary - going about calling it "cheap", but fine. It's not an issue. Only to you.

 

P.S. Also, it's got nothing to do with anything, but I don't like movies like SAW. I liked 'Let the Right One In' very much. Great movie. But to me, that has nothing to do with anything.

[TheChris92]

I think your approach to this, is more from if it has the particular attributes (and well executed) of Horror movies that you particularly appreciate and like.
So, a movie you don't find these things in, or aren't appreciable enough, can't be a Horror movie. Horror movie, to you is also a sort of quality stamp? Yes?

Yes, that's clearly what I said. Thanks for at least proving the point of all futile internet arguments though
 

I get that you want to be "biased". It's all over your tone throughout this. But that, to me, is a different issue. So you don't like Alien (I still doubt you've seen it ), fine. It's slightly offensive - and extremely unnecessary - going about calling it "cheap", but fine. It's not an issue. Only to you.

I think the feeling seem to be mutual -- I never really got an answer as to why you felt my examples weren't horror, you were too busy being presumptuous of what I may or may not have seen to actually engage in any form of discussion. If jump-scares aren't, for lack of a better term, cheap kind of horror then very well. The idea was to convey an argument for how Alien chose to present itself as a horror film, which yes "I believe" it did not do. So my point was that taking that into consideration, this discussion is futile, because it's an inevitable back and forth swinging about "What makes a film a horror film?". At least you've finally seem to have got that, so perhaps something was gained after all, hmm?

[Elhanan]

Alien is one of my fave Horror films; also makes my fave Sci-Fi list. I see no reason for exclusion from either.

It may have one of the worst conclusions I have seen, but The Exorcist III is a great Horror film until then. George C Scott and Brad Dourif are great, but what I recall are the outstanding dialogue and settings.

Salem's Lot mini-series was memorable, though I recall the darkened room of viewers being terrified more than the film itself. Same goes for the first half of It, and I also enjoyed Misery.

[bEVEsthda]

Yes, that's clearly what I said. Thanks for at least proving the point of all futile internet arguments though
 
I think the feeling seem to be mutual -- I never really got an answer as to why you felt my examples weren't horror, you were too busy being presumptuous of what I may or may not have seen to actually engage in any form of discussion. If jump-scares aren't, for lack of a better term, cheap kind of horror then very well. The idea was to convey an argument for how Alien chose to present itself as a horror film, which yes "I believe" it did not do. So my point was that taking that into consideration, this discussion is futile, because it's an inevitable back and forth swinging about "What makes a film a horror film?". At least you've finally seem to have got that, so perhaps something was gained after all, hmm?

 

(I don't find this discussion futile. I get that you feel it is, but I'm getting something from this.)

"I never really got an answer as to why you felt my examples weren't horror"   - Oh, I'm sorry, I'm afraid that discussion ran away from me, and got lost in the mists of time.

But yes, I did say that 'Let the Right One In' is a Horror movie. At first, I said it is a "feel-good fantasy", but that is clearly some kind of joke, since there's no such genre. I did that as a way to convey that I fail to see it as scary. I mean, it's a great movie, and it goes through the crafts. I enjoyed the movie, but I gave expression to the notion that what should be enjoyable about a "Horror Movie", is to be scared. But, by all means, it's one of the very best movies having been mentioned in this thread. Highly recommended. And in the case my spurious comment may have given anyone a different impression (which I can see it may, in hindsight), then I'm sorry.

 

I, on my side, sees your side to this argument as mostly non-contributing. You just try to use Wikipedia  as a way to ridicule, for instance. You scoff and sneer, but I haven't seen any kind of argument from you on what you are convinced makes a "Horror Movie".

 

P.S. And now I must go, so you're rid of me at last.

[TheChris92]

I, on my side, sees your side to this argument as mostly non-contributing. You just try to use Wikipedia  as a way to ridicule, for instance. You scoff and sneer, but I haven't seen any kind of argument from you on what you are convinced makes a "Horror Movie".

I did -- Feel free to look for it above as I don't really care repeating it. You were the one engaging me in this discussion and I had no desire to humor it, only as far as my examples of not living up to your standards of being "horror-esque". I wanted to make points in its favor but your disposition discouraged me from having actual discussion with you, and I realized it would end as inevitably as any other similar discussion to this. Of course I'm being sneery, considering that you didn't provide much food for thought in regards to my example and now you're telling you basically backpedaled, because your argument was that it wasn't "scary" and thus I can only say. Glasshouses. No matter what other argument I might have for why I don't consider Alien a horror film it doesn't change the fact that it'll fall on deaf ears. That's all you're getting from me, dude.
 

P.S. And now I must go, so you're rid of me at last.

Thanks