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I think Shepard will be rescued in this next DLC and he will finally get his happy ending.


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

chidingewe8036 wrote...

 You heard it here and now, we will be able to take control of a surviving team member or LI and find and rescue him and afterwards finally get our happy ending. I don't know how gameplay would necessarily be involved with this type of DLC but it could work. What could we fight tho???? But anyways I have a strange feeling it will indeed be this what else could it be??? We have to find Shepard!!!!!

ME1 Shepard arose from the debris victorious (Epic)

ME2 Shepard made an epic escape

ME3 Shepard, thought to have perished, will be found and rescued by his team his LI


sounds good to me.....

Ashley - "i doubted u once Shepard and I lost u......that's not happening again"

Hell yeah! So much foreshadowing of Shepard coming back, and the fight not being over, or our last. It's hard not to feel this way, because what else could all 9 writers and 3 composers be working on? Especially when you consider that it is supposed to make you cry. How could they do that without using a character that has been in for ages? It has to be main-plot related. And Sam Hulick and Seth Green are in DLC for the first time! This has to be good!


Keep hope alive ya'll keep hope alive.......thats all we have right now until the final hour. Image IPB

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Another point that may be worth considering, is Casey Hudson asking the fans what direction they would like the series to go in. I didn't go through his twitter stream personally, so this is hardly a scientific assessment, but I got the distinct impression that a majority wanted a sequel, rather than a prequel or midquel (ghastly word).

The divergent ending choices don't lend themselves at all well to a sequel, yet that is what the fans seem to want. Bioware may need to use this DLC to normalise all the choices into one canon storyline to allow a sequel to be made.

I'm just speculating here, all personal opinion and so on, but now that we know ME3 will not be the final Mass Effect game, it may be more practical for Bioware to use this dlc to bridge us to the new storyline of ME4. For that, it would have to be "post-ending".

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Oh here we go, another train-wreck thread with self-delusion, misconstruing arguments and the old "ride off into the sunset" bollocks from utter narrow-minded blowhards who could not miss the point more if they tried.

Just another typical day on BSN, then.


Aside from that argument (or the Hollywood ending), you want an ending that makes sense and fits in with the themes of the series. It  makes sense (at least to people outside this forum), because they obviously didn't rush through the game, are able to think for themselves, and can use some creative thinking (eg. imagination) in order to figure stuff out.

Look, most people, if they didn't like the ending to a book or a movie, they don't watch the movie or read the book again. That's how people used to deal with it back 20 years ago or so. That's how most reasonble people deal with it, unlike some who get upset if every game doesn't have at least the option for a happy ending (this game does not, so they want one put in).

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Eterna5 wrote...

BD Manchild wrote...

Oh here we go, another train-wreck thread with self-delusion, misconstruing arguments and the old "ride off into the sunset" bollocks from utter narrow-minded blowhards who could not miss the point more if they tried.

Just another typical day on BSN, then.


But I don;t understand, you want Shepard to be rescued and live happily ever after, that pretty much is riding off into the sunset. 


rescuing shepard and letting him live happily ever after, are two fundamentally different things.

a rescue is the basis for a lot of possibilities.
shepard being überhappy, is only one of many possible outcomes. certain shepards could be overwhelmed by surivors guilt and blow their brains out after a few months. some might become disconnected alcoholics, who severed ties to their old crew and the li, ptsd and long recovery .. and some might live with the guilt and continue their lives in the military.

a surviving shepard would not necessatiliy make the ending happy - i could but the possibilities for bitter endings are there as well.

providing a solid basement for the many surivor-directions, would be great.

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magnetite wrote...

BD Manchild wrote...

Oh here we go, another train-wreck thread with self-delusion, misconstruing arguments and the old "ride off into the sunset" bollocks from utter narrow-minded blowhards who could not miss the point more if they tried.

Just another typical day on BSN, then.


Aside from that argument (or the Hollywood ending), you want an ending that makes sense and fits in with the themes of the series. It  makes sense (at least to people outside this forum), because they obviously didn't rush through the game, are able to think for themselves, and can use some creative thinking (eg. imagination) in order to figure stuff out.

Look, most people, if they didn't like the ending to a book or a movie, they don't watch the movie or read the book again. That's how people used to deal with it back 20 years ago or so. That's how most reasonble people deal with it, unlike some who get upset if every game doesn't have at least the option for a happy ending (this game does not, so they want one put in).


Have no idea who you talk to outside the forums... I have yet to meet ONE person who says the endings make a lot of sense or fit with the trilogy.  But to the rest of your point... the rest of them were able to stop playing and basically end their ties with Bioware.  For some of us... we've not only been with the company so long, but the fact that we still love ME1 and ME2 and MOST of ME3 makes it almost impossible to let go of that horrendous mess of an ending. They had something wonderful and in the last 10 minutes managed to mangle it beyond belief.  A lot of us might never fully get over that shock, especially since I know I will gladly play the first 2 games over and over and over.  They are still that great.

And hell, at least with refuse I don't feel like a complete idiotic schmuck listening to a broken hologram and can  claw my way through an ME3 playthrough from time to time.  I mean, Rannoch, Tuchanka, and some of the character moments are still amazing despite the dark cloud hanging over the trilogy.

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To plug your fingers into your ears and repeatedly blather that there is NO. POSSIBLE. WAY. BioWare could create compelling post-ending content for ME3, as McFly has done endlessly in this thread, is narrow-minded and absurd.

Having said that, I do not believe we're going to see ANY post-ending DLC. This place is going to explode when the next piece is announced and it's just some side mission you can do anytime before assaulting the Cerberus base.

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Dr_Extrem wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

BD Manchild wrote...

Oh here we go, another train-wreck thread with self-delusion, misconstruing arguments and the old "ride off into the sunset" bollocks from utter narrow-minded blowhards who could not miss the point more if they tried.

Just another typical day on BSN, then.


But I don;t understand, you want Shepard to be rescued and live happily ever after, that pretty much is riding off into the sunset. 


rescuing shepard and letting him live happily ever after, are two fundamentally different things.

a rescue is the basis for a lot of possibilities.
shepard being überhappy, is only one of many possible outcomes. certain shepards could be overwhelmed by surivors guilt and blow their brains out after a few months. some might become disconnected alcoholics, who severed ties to their old crew and the li, ptsd and long recovery .. and some might live with the guilt and continue their lives in the military.

a surviving shepard would not necessatiliy make the ending happy - i could but the possibilities for bitter endings are there as well.

providing a solid basement for the many surivor-directions, would be great.


But the thread is called "I think Shepard will be rescued in this next DLC and he will finally get his happy ending"

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Eterna5 wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

BD Manchild wrote...

Oh here we go, another train-wreck thread with self-delusion, misconstruing arguments and the old "ride off into the sunset" bollocks from utter narrow-minded blowhards who could not miss the point more if they tried.

Just another typical day on BSN, then.


But I don;t understand, you want Shepard to be rescued and live happily ever after, that pretty much is riding off into the sunset. 


rescuing shepard and letting him live happily ever after, are two fundamentally different things.

a rescue is the basis for a lot of possibilities.
shepard being überhappy, is only one of many possible outcomes. certain shepards could be overwhelmed by surivors guilt and blow their brains out after a few months. some might become disconnected alcoholics, who severed ties to their old crew and the li, ptsd and long recovery .. and some might live with the guilt and continue their lives in the military.

a surviving shepard would not necessatiliy make the ending happy - i could but the possibilities for bitter endings are there as well.

providing a solid basement for the many surivor-directions, would be great.


But the thread is called "I think Shepard will be rescued in this next DLC and he will finally get his happy ending"


the threads direction turned away from the title a long time ago.

in my opinion, a rescue does not necessariily make the ending happy for shepard, because shepards life could go into a lot of directions after the rescue. in the best case, we get a rescue and maybe a short memorial scene and then the rest is up to the players imagination.

a rescue would give a solid basis for very different and even a few happy endings.


a dlc could provide a rescue and even a reunion - i highly doubt it, but it is not impossible.

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look you guys I am sorry if I am being annoying but nothing i post mean anything Bioware will do what they want the only sure fire thing I know and have is hope thats all i got thats all any of us have nothing i post means anything really, its just words on a page. I don't back talk any fans on the BSN because you guys are the only reason I keep coming back for more I enjoy being a fan and part of the community.

But again you don't have to agree with me or like what I say but it is what it is just words that don't mean anything to anyone except me because I love this franchise and I just want it to end in the way it deserves AWESOME, EPIC, AND MEMORABLE. What we have now is memorable but lacks the awesome and the epic.

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MattFini wrote...

To plug your fingers into your ears and repeatedly blather that there is NO. POSSIBLE. WAY. BioWare could create compelling post-ending content for ME3, as McFly has done endlessly in this thread, is narrow-minded and absurd.

Having said that, I do not believe we're going to see ANY post-ending DLC. This place is going to explode when the next piece is announced and it's just some side mission you can do anytime before assaulting the Cerberus base.

I never said it was impossible. Not once. I implied the idea of it is absurd.

In fact, I'd say its the likes of you that plug your ears and stamp your feet, spamming the forums with thread after thread of pleading and begging Bioware to add post ending content or to change the ending or give you a reunion, after countless times that Bioware has told you and everybody else that they are done/finished with the endings. And when someone such as myself or the countless other people remind you of that very fact, you get mad and say things like "narrow-minded" lol. You should look in the mirror bro. Oh, the irony....

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Cool, you read. So do I. But I also like watching thought provoking movies, and playing thought provoking games. We all have our vices. Can't please everybody...


Curious are the venues you scour to find food for thought. I would look elsewhere. 

But perhaps, in the first place, you should not need to be provoked into thinking.

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Shepard needs to wake up from the indoctrination attempt, that's all.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

Cool, you read. So do I. But I also like watching thought provoking movies, and playing thought provoking games. We all have our vices. Can't please everybody...


Curious are the venues you scour to find food for thought. I would look elsewhere. 

But perhaps, in the first place, you should not need to be provoked into thinking.

some people like painting....some like music....some like books.....I prefer games and movies. Thought-provoking material isn't so numerous in the former....

Just because I don't watch movies for sappy love stories or like reading Henry David Thoreau.....I'm not gonna sit here and say Gone with the Wind blows and Thoreau was a babbling weirdo....nope. They simply aren't for me.

He doesn't play games to be thought-provoked. I don't watch movies for sappy love stories. Preferences. What he implied was ME3 is bad, because its not the type of game that he plays games for. That'd be like me saying, "yup that movie sucked because it was about a love story." Which would be pretty ignorant. Just because you don't prefer something, doesn't mean its bad.

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Eryri wrote...

Another point that may be worth considering, is Casey Hudson asking the fans what direction they would like the series to go in. I didn't go through his twitter stream personally, so this is hardly a scientific assessment, but I got the distinct impression that a majority wanted a sequel, rather than a prequel or midquel (ghastly word).

The divergent ending choices don't lend themselves at all well to a sequel, yet that is what the fans seem to want. Bioware may need to use this DLC to normalise all the choices into one canon storyline to allow a sequel to be made.

I'm just speculating here, all personal opinion and so on, but now that we know ME3 will not be the final Mass Effect game, it may be more practical for Bioware to use this dlc to bridge us to the new storyline of ME4. For that, it would have to be "post-ending".

Exactly!

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He doesn't play games to be thought-provoked. I don't watch movies for sappy love stories. Preferences. What he implied was ME3 is bad, because its not the type of game that he plays games for. That'd be like me saying, "yup that movie sucked because it was about a love story." Which would be pretty ignorant. Just because you don't prefer something, doesn't mean its bad.


Be that as it may, you do not consider the possibility that what this particular work put forward simply does not do much in the way of provoking his/her thoughts. 

Maybe, this material is something already seen, already done, and perhaps done better elsewhere. It results then in annoyance rather than deep thought, comes through as pretentious and half-done quasiphilosophy.

Or maybe the reason is something else entirely.

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OR...

They could just travel far enough into the future as to make Shepard's choices less relevant.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

MattFini wrote...

To plug your fingers into your ears and repeatedly blather that there is NO. POSSIBLE. WAY. BioWare could create compelling post-ending content for ME3, as McFly has done endlessly in this thread, is narrow-minded and absurd.

Having said that, I do not believe we're going to see ANY post-ending DLC. This place is going to explode when the next piece is announced and it's just some side mission you can do anytime before assaulting the Cerberus base.

I never said it was impossible. Not once. I implied the idea of it is absurd.

In fact, I'd say its the likes of you that plug your ears and stamp your feet, spamming the forums with thread after thread of pleading and begging Bioware to add post ending content or to change the ending or give you a reunion, after countless times that Bioware has told you and everybody else that they are done/finished with the endings. And when someone such as myself or the countless other people remind you of that very fact, you get mad and say things like "narrow-minded" lol. You should look in the mirror bro. Oh, the irony....


I love you, man.

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As much as I would love for a happy ending like MEHEM, I have no hope for that, and will probably install that mod eventually to get my fix.

Talking with other BSNers, the most realistic hope I have is that they finally put something/someone in Life Support on the Normandy. The empty room with discarded coffee cup on the table is just depressing.

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

OR...

They could just travel far enough into the future as to make Shepard's choices less relevant.

This is what I figure will happen. All the "choices" at the end will railroad (like the Rachni Queen, rewriting the Geth, etc.) into a singularity 2000 years into the future where:
  • Geth will exist (be recreated after choosing Destroy)
  • The Reapers will be gone (or in hibernation after Control/Synthesis)
  • Species will be integrated with technology (or neon green to match Synthesis)

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

OR...

They could just travel far enough into the future as to make Shepard's choices less relevant.


That wouldn't work in this case. No amount of time will erase Shepard's ascent to godhood in control or the genetic overhaul done in synthesis or the death of all synthetic life in destroy.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

OR...

They could just travel far enough into the future as to make Shepard's choices less relevant.


Seems very unlikely to me. The choices are so wildly divergent for the ME universe, though you'd be forgiven for not realising it from the epilogues.

For a start, the possible Synthesis of every single living thing is a huge problem. Even assuming that the organics of the ME universe eventually upgrade themselves with tech anyway in the other 2 endings, they wouldn't go plastering it all over trees and animals as Synthesis does.

Also Reapers are effectively immortal, so they would still be stomping around the place post Synthesis or Control. Hard to see how conflict could arise with them watching over the galaxy, warding off any possible threat unless it was insanely massive. And both they and the Geth would be absent from the setting post Destroy.

You would have to set the next so incredibly far in the future that it would feel like Mass Effect in name only. Our emotional connection to the setting would be lost.

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There is a way to have a legitimate sequel that doesn't stomp all over the lore, but if I mention it half this thread will be foaming at the mouth in anger.

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

There is a way to have a legitimate sequel that doesn't stomp all over the lore, but if I mention it half this thread will be foaming at the mouth in anger.


More so? ;)

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VintageUtti wrote...

As much as I would love for a happy ending like MEHEM, I have no hope for that, and will probably install that mod eventually to get my fix.

Talking with other BSNers, the most realistic hope I have is that they finally put something/someone in Life Support on the Normandy. The empty room with discarded coffee cup on the table is just depressing.

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

OR...

They could just travel far enough into the future as to make Shepard's choices less relevant.

This is what I figure will happen. All the "choices" at the end will railroad (like the Rachni Queen, rewriting the Geth, etc.) into a singularity 2000 years into the future where:
  • Geth will exist (be recreated after choosing Destroy)
  • The Reapers will be gone (or in hibernation after Control)
  • Species will be integrated with technology (or neon green to match Synthesis)

[*]Interesting idea, but people already complain about choices not mattering in the MEU. That idea will just ****** them off even more.

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I honestly can't wait to see how BW approaches ME4.

Assuming they move forward with something set after the Reaper War and not some lame prequel, of course.

I honestly have no idea how they're going to tackle it but being the writers on that project would be pretty fun and challenging.

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I mean, I would love to go much further into the future. That means new races, new technology, new gameplay ideas, etc.

It keeps the universe of Mass Effect fresh.