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[CynicalShep]

CoolioThane wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

I just don't see it happening

Living up to your username 

Perhaps. It's not all bad though. I am more inclined to believe that this is a revamp of the interactions you have with your squadmates, maybe even improving on the existing romances and such. As about the endings, I don't think Bioware would touch them with a pole right about now, nevermind adding to them

[Eterna]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Geomon19 wrote...

People are really setting themselves up for disappointment.

This..

If we're setting ourselves up for disappointment then BioWare are setting themselves up for a catastrophe. It really is just that simple....we do NOT need BioWare but BioWare absolutely needs us. Every single fan counts....every happy fan has dozens or hundreds of friends s/he reaches either in person or through social media and a pissed off fan at best won't say anything and at worst will prevent freinds from buying a game. Most of the sales are not from the core fans or forumites but the casual players who don't know or give a damn about BioWare....to them it's should I buy game A, B, C or D and friend reference has an impact and this is where goodwill and happy core fans really come in. Plenty seem happy on the forums because that's all that's left....BioWare with the EC have successfully made people shut up and go away and forget about BioWare....then from what was left even more people were literally driven off by people like Chris Priestly who made it very clear that anyone who still has any negative feeling toward the game is NOT wanted and should go away.

Bioware isn't setting up anything. Your own delusion will be your undoing. 

I stick around because I've been around long enough to know that Chris just lies A LOT, especially about things BioWare will/will not do next....if he says one thing more often than not the exact opposite is true. This has been going on since 07 before the first ME game released.

This time, he isn't lying. 

In the end the success of ME4 will be largely impacted by how people feel about ME3 and the EC was largely a failure in making people like the game any better mostly because BioWare ignored all the real problems and most just lost hope and went away.

Actually, the EC has fixed it for most people. You have since become a minority if the peoples choice awards ME3 has won are to be believed. 

After TOR crashed and burned and ME3 saw its sales come to a near screeching halt prematurely as its price dropped signifficantly within less than 30 days after release I am sure BioWare will be really happy with the reception of ME4 should the majority still be upset.

Confirmation bias. 

[Eterna]

john_sheparrd wrote...

^ just shut up and let us hope

I devour hope. 

[78stonewobble]

Eterna5 wrote...
Actually, the EC has fixed it for most people. You have since become a minority if the peoples choice awards ME3 has won are to be believed. 

Most people are stupid.

But I digress... The EC did improve the ending we got (quite a lot). I still think it's average at best when I would have preferred good to awesome.

[Eterna]

78stonewobble wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
Actually, the EC has fixed it for most people. You have since become a minority if the peoples choice awards ME3 has won are to be believed. 

Most people are stupid.

But I digress... The EC did improve the ending we got (quite a lot). I still think it's average at best when I would have preferred good to awesome.

Calling people who do not agree with you stupid is the epitome of arrogance and well, stupidity. 

[Asch Lavigne]

Saying "Bioware will be sorry" and stuff like that is just wrong. Even if you don't believe them about being done with the ending, getting mad that they didn't do something they've told you for months they're not going to do is beyond stupid.

Also, don't really know if calling Priestly a liar is fair. It's not like he's lying for fun (maybe he has some fun, and maybe sometimes he wants us to think that's why he's doing it) but he's just following orders. It's not like he makes the decisions, his boss says "can't reveal this yet" so what else is he supposed to do?

[78stonewobble]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Saying "Bioware will be sorry" and stuff like that is just wrong. Even if you don't believe them about being done with the ending, getting mad that they didn't do something they've told you for months they're not going to do is beyond stupid.

Also, don't really know if calling Priestly a liar is fair. It's not like he's lying for fun (maybe he has some fun, and maybe sometimes he wants us to think that's why he's doing it) but he's just following orders. It's not like he makes the decisions, his boss says "can't reveal this yet" so what else is he supposed to do?

Yeh... Theres no reason to get mean. The guy's just doing his job (and part of that job is probably to avoid giving out secrets any way he can).

Everyone makes mistakes or makes decisions that somehow weren't as good as they could be.

However, this is subjective oppinions. It's not a right and wrong math equation with only one correct answer.

Chris Priestly is probably a fine guy, though obviously I don't know.

Just because I disagree with someone on something specific doesn't mean I dislike them as persons.

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 20 janvier 2013 - 11:12 .

[Indy_S]

Asch Lavigne is right. Accusations and threats are not productive.

Eterna5, although I believe the DLC is unrelated to the endings, your attitude is to just insult and belittle those with different opinions. Calling people delusional and stupid is not an effective way to carry your point across. Just disagree and move on.

[Darth_Trethon]

Eterna5 wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Geomon19 wrote...

People are really setting themselves up for disappointment.

This..

If we're setting ourselves up for disappointment then BioWare are setting themselves up for a catastrophe. It really is just that simple....we do NOT need BioWare but BioWare absolutely needs us. Every single fan counts....every happy fan has dozens or hundreds of friends s/he reaches either in person or through social media and a pissed off fan at best won't say anything and at worst will prevent freinds from buying a game. Most of the sales are not from the core fans or forumites but the casual players who don't know or give a damn about BioWare....to them it's should I buy game A, B, C or D and friend reference has an impact and this is where goodwill and happy core fans really come in. Plenty seem happy on the forums because that's all that's left....BioWare with the EC have successfully made people shut up and go away and forget about BioWare....then from what was left even more people were literally driven off by people like Chris Priestly who made it very clear that anyone who still has any negative feeling toward the game is NOT wanted and should go away.

Bioware isn't setting up anything. Your own delusion will be your undoing. 

I stick around because I've been around long enough to know that Chris just lies A LOT, especially about things BioWare will/will not do next....if he says one thing more often than not the exact opposite is true. This has been going on since 07 before the first ME game released.

This time, he isn't lying. 

In the end the success of ME4 will be largely impacted by how people feel about ME3 and the EC was largely a failure in making people like the game any better mostly because BioWare ignored all the real problems and most just lost hope and went away.

Actually, the EC has fixed it for most people. You have since become a minority if the peoples choice awards ME3 has won are to be believed. 

After TOR crashed and burned and ME3 saw its sales come to a near screeching halt prematurely as its price dropped signifficantly within less than 30 days after release I am sure BioWare will be really happy with the reception of ME4 should the majority still be upset.

Confirmation bias. 

My delusion will be my lolwut? That makes no sense.......then it THIS time that Chris is telling the truth....fixed for most people eh.....then why is it that in any EC feedback poll most are still unhappy and asking for changes? The peoples' choice awards are as fake as the original critic awards....nobody can see the numbers of votes and the winners are predetermined. Not like anyone has a count to say different. And then of course I have a severe case of confirmation bias.....I mean blindly accepting proofless peoples' choice awards over actual peoples' feedback with plainly visual votes and counts must be all about bias.

I'd try explaining more but I'm clearly talking to a wall.....no matter what I say all you will do is reply with overly dramatic sweeping statements. Ultimately BioWare has screwed up big time on their last three games with DA2 selling a lot less than expected because they decided to ignore fan feedback before TOR and ME3......all pure coincidence.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 20 janvier 2013 - 11:17 .

[wright1978]

Well you would have thought Bioware would have some class and actually deliver clarification and closure when that's what was promised in the EC rather than sticking to trolling people with a zero effort 'breath clip'. I highly doubt they'll rectify it now.

[Darth_Trethon]

Snake91 wrote...

Here read this and stop with that ending cos Bioware not gonna give you ending THE DON'T GIVE **** FOR YOU !!!!




BioWare on Mass Effect 3's Ending: We Have No Plans to Address It
BioWare may have just dashed the few remaining hopes of the Mass Effect community

by Jeanine Celestin-Greer on 9th Jan, 2013

With rumors flying around about their next big single-player DLC and the corner BioWare appears to have written themselves into with Mass Effect 3's ending, it's no wonder the fans have started to hope--just a little--that BioWare might take the opportunity to add to the still-controversial ending.

The hopes were particularly fueled by rumors and information on the next DLC that is said to focus on the Citadel, and composer Sam Hulick's tweet about a "sad piece" he was making for the DLC, as well as by voice actors like Seth Green coming back for more voice work.

But Community Manager Jessica Merizan seems to have effectively dashed all of those hopes. At least, that's the way it appears. A fan asked if we could "at least get a hint when the ending will be addressed more clearly", adding that he was praying that the fan favorite indoctrination theory was correct.

Merizan simply responded "We have no plans to address the ending again", to which the fan asked a more specific follow-up question asking if there would be any post ending DLC. Merizan has not, at present, responded to the fan on this more specific question although she has posted several tweets since, so we are left to our own devices at the moment to interpret the situation.

Does BioWare have some post-ending DLC up their sleeve and are simply side-stepping comments? Or did Merizan give us all the answers we'll ever get about Shepard's future after the game already? Tell us what you think in the comments.

Jess and Chris are community managers not actual developers.....BioWare has had problems with pretty much everything being leaked since before ME3 was even released so if they planned something big they would keep as few people in the loop as possible. With that said I think that wether this ends up being ending related or not we are not getting any sort of informend responses in any way....they are parroting what BioWare said prior to the release of the EC which was "no plans".....over five months ago.

When ME3 released we had actual developers and writers stating there would never be any DLC touching the original ending in any way.....because they had no plans....and that changed VERY fast and in a hurry. The response to the EC was more resigned with a lot of people just simply leaving but still overwhelmingly negative.

[78stonewobble]

Eterna5 wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
Actually, the EC has fixed it for most people. You have since become a minority if the peoples choice awards ME3 has won are to be believed. 

Most people are stupid.

But I digress... The EC did improve the ending we got (quite a lot). I still think it's average at best when I would have preferred good to awesome.

Calling people who do not agree with you stupid is the epitome of arrogance and well, stupidity. 

No, I didn't say people are stupid because they are disagreeing with me. Those are independent of each other.

It's even a fact that if you're in upper bell curve of the intelligence distribution of the population. Then... relatively... most people are stupid compaired to you.

I don't feel especially smart or intelligent compaired to other people. Most of the time theres a gazillion things I don't understand and I make so many mistakes it's not even funny anymore.  

Yet, I still feel like I need to have a major blood clot in my brain to view the ending as "smart" or "good".

Either I'm stupid and others are smart or vice versa but I can't help but viewing people "buying" the catalyst the same way I'd view people handing over their bank account in a nigerian prince letter. I'm thinking "how can you not see this?".

I don't know if that is arrogant or stupid or both. Maybe I just haven't seen any convincing argument for buying it.

Arf... In any case it's all off-topic and I'm sorry for that.

Note: I think the mass effect series is a great one and that mass effect 3 is a good game. Some things could be better but overall I'd also have rewarded the series for all it did good. It deserves that and for that alone.

PS: Tell me up in a pm instead of here if you must. To not derail the thread.

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 20 janvier 2013 - 11:45 .

[Darth_Trethon]

Finn the Jakey wrote...

Sorry guys, but Bioware isn't going to devote an entire DLC to just a short 2-minute cutscene, I sincerely doubt they want to restart the ending trouble now that things have started quieting down, if they were going to do this, they would've done it with the EC.

Quiet is deffinitely NOT what they want if most are still feeling bad about the endings....not if they want returning customers for DA3 and ME4....not if they still want to exist as a company five years from now.

[LTKerr]

Keep dreaming...

[DirtySHISN0]

OP your imagination knows no bounds...

You have created something that, not only do I not want, but also do not see as a viable probability.

I'm not even mad, I'm impressed.

[BleedingUranium]

This thread is just:

"I think it will be ending related, and you're dumb for thinking it won't."

"I think it won't be ending related, and you're dumb for thinking it will."

[StElmo]

MassEffectFShep wrote...

 https://encrypted-tb...IGVp1ceWW8iKMGL

I do agree, I would pay $200 for this DLC if it contained a bit more exposition about the cruciable.

[Indy_S]

BleedingUranium wrote...

This thread is just:

"I think it will be ending related, and you're dumb for thinking it won't."

"I think it won't be ending related, and you're dumb for thinking it will."

Indeed.

[Selene Moonsong]

  there is no more "endings"

Chris Priestly wrote...
You can keep discussing this if you wish, but it is false. Sorry.
We have aid numerous times now, we have "ended the endings". While there is more DLC for both Single and Multiplayer still to come, there is no more "endings" DLC.