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[Dhoozy77]

It not like they could fight back being such on said glass canon. Once the heavy fleet was gone there were no reason to kill the children and hunt down every last quarian survivor.  It was hypocritcal of the geth to say " we regret the death of the creators" when clearly they could have spared some. 

[SeptimusMagistos]

Nobody hunted anyone down. The quarian fleet fired at them, the geth fired back. Preserving the lives of people firing at you from Dreadnought-class ships isn't exactly anyone's top priority.

Presumably there are a few quarians left in the galaxy - mostly the ones out on Piligrimage, the exiles, or the ones who willingly left the fleet.

[xBLAKx Skytop]

SeptimusMagistos wrote...

Nobody hunted anyone down. The quarian fleet fired at them, the geth fired back. Preserving the lives of people firing at you from Dreadnought-class ships isn't exactly anyone's top priority.

Presumably there are a few quarians left in the galaxy - mostly the ones out on Piligrimage, the exiles, or the ones who willingly left the fleet.

Liara states the the Quarians are extinct (Or have such little population that the will die out at the end of the generation.)

So what about the ones in the life pods?

They either hacked them to ensure that they would jam, stopping ANYONE from getting off the ship.

Or, they hunted down the landing zones, dragged them out, lined them up against the wall and shot them.

Both possibilites make me have absolutely no problem with killing the Geth, either on Rannoch or the Destroy ending.

[justafan]

The Geth do not have a sense of morality, or at least what we call morality, they do what is logical. The Quarian race proved a great threat, so they exterminated it. In their mind, problem solved.  It is highly likely that the geth do not distinguish between civilian or combatant, or children from adults.  As a consensus, they have a very limited view of individuality, so have no problem wiping out a species as a whole.

Modifié par justafan, 20 janvier 2013 - 05:40 .

[Dhoozy77]

As I underztand it they put the civilian fleet with weapons full of children I might add. Then once the heavy fleet was destroyed you can clearly hear the quarian trying to run yet the geth after their upgrade was still slaughtering them. Then as the quarian ships fell from the sky the geth moblie platforms killed the survivor otherwise. Admiral ran would have walked up to shepard but that red geth clearly show that it came alone probably killing admiral ran on the way down to shepard. Their children is all gone that why tali jump and sucide. The civilian was teying to run but the geth weren't having any of it. They genocidally and vindicitvely finish the entire fleet off.

[SeptimusMagistos]

Dhoozy77 wrote...

They genocidally and vindicitvely finish the entire fleet off.

The last time they let quarians leave peacefully the quarians came back and tried to kill them all again.

[Meltemph]

Probably over thinking this. It was probably just as simple as BW wanted the cost to be "even".

[Sanunes]

SeptimusMagistos wrote...

Dhoozy77 wrote...

They genocidally and vindicitvely finish the entire fleet off.

The last time they let quarians leave peacefully the quarians came back and tried to kill them all again.

This why I think it happened the way it did.  The Geth let several million Quarians escape during the Morning War when they could have exterminated them at that time, but they were allowed to leave.  Now 300 years later they attacked and would have killed all the Geth if they didn't get the AI upgrades, so to them the logic was clear them or us.

[Sousabird]

SeptimusMagistos wrote...

Dhoozy77 wrote...

They genocidally and vindicitvely finish the entire fleet off.

The last time they let quarians leave peacefully the quarians came back and tried to kill them all again.

after they had wiped out the majority of the Quarian race I wonder why they might be pissed when the Quarians come back...

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Because the patrol and civilian fleets were outfitted for combat and likely following the same orders as the heavy fleet.

[SeptimusMagistos]

Sousabird wrote...

after they had wiped out the majority of the Quarian race I wonder why they might be pissed when the Quarians come back...

Yes, yes, it's a cycle of mutual genocide attempts and if you don't resolve it in mutual peace, you really can't expect the winning side to let the losing side try to come back and kill them again.

Remember: the quarians have attacked 100% of the time they believed victory was possible. The geth are making sure quarian victory will never be possible again.

Are we going to ask why the quarians didn't keep a few geth alive so they could try to rebuild their race? Or are we skewing this conversation completely to the organic side yet again?

[thehomeworld]

Their insurance policy thats why. Legion claims somewhere (I think back in ME2) that whenever the Quarians had superior firepower they used it so they decided to just get rid of them all.

[Dhoozy77]

Which include hunting dowb qaurian children and blowing their brains out that manage to survive the. Landing. Think terminator camps. For the survivors and of course the children dying of suffocation when the geth shut down quarians ship life support.

[Meltemph]

Dhoozy77 wrote...

Which include hunting dowb qaurian children and blowing their brains out that manage to survive the. Landing. Think terminator camps. For the survivors and of course the children dying of suffocation when the geth shut down quarians ship life support.

Eh... They probably learned this from teh Quarians.  By all accounts the Quarian were/are a pretty aggressive species.  The Morning War, combined with the information we learned with Legion, that the Geth protected the Quarians who sided with them), and it doesnt paint a good pitcure.  

Remember, there were Quarians who sided with the Geth, during the orignal conflict, and we see Geth actively protect them.  So with that in mind, it would mean the reason there are no Quarians living on Rannoch already, that sided with the Quarians, is that the Quarians wiped out all Quarians who sided with the Geth.  Otherwise is this wasnt the case, the Quarians who sided with the Geth would still be living on Rannoch.


Edit: It is quite obvious where the Geth learned their reactions to events.

Modifié par Meltemph, 20 janvier 2013 - 06:41 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

Because the Quarains thought it was a good idea to strap guns onto their school buses.

[Ticonderoga117]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Because the Quarains thought it was a good idea to strap guns onto their school buses.

And then keep attacking even though it's been shown to be a Bad Idea.

[MegaSovereign]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Because the Quarains thought it was a good idea to strap guns onto their school buses.

Are you suggesting that it's not!?!?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

And thus the Geth after destroying the heavy fleet show themselves that after their "upgrade" to be no better than the quarians, do they. They finish the genocide and the blood is on Shepard's hands. Shepard can only balance out the situation in the Destroy ending by eliminating the synthetic threat to the galaxy.

And with regard to the guns on the live ships, do you think the reapers are going to distinguish between armed and unarmed ships? I don't. Better to let them have a spinal mounted main gun.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 20 janvier 2013 - 06:46 .

[Meltemph]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Because the Quarains thought it was a good idea to strap guns onto their school buses.

Ya, people seem to forget.  In this setting(Mass Effect as a whole) everytime we learned about  the creators of synthetics who are more violent or willing to be more violent, is that the creators were just as bad if not worse then the syntehtics that were created.

We see with EDI a more rational creation she was, based on human design vs the crazy ass quarians.  

Modifié par Meltemph, 20 janvier 2013 - 06:46 .

[SeptimusMagistos]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

And thus the Geth after destroying the heavy fleet show themselves that after their "upgrade" to be no better than the quarians, do they. They finish the genocide and the blood is on Shepard's hands. Shepard can only balance out the situation in the Destroy ending by eliminating the synthetic threat to the galaxy.

Or, you know, persuading people to stop trying to pointlessly antagonize synthetics.

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
And with regard to the guns on the live ships, do you think the reapers are going to distinguish between armed and unarmed ships? I don't. Better to let them have a spinal mounted main gun.

If you have a gun, you're in a warzone, and you're firing, you aren't a civilian. It's that simple.

[Ledgend1221]

Because the Geth naturally hate idiotic species.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

SeptimusMagistos wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

And thus the Geth after destroying the heavy fleet show themselves that after their "upgrade" to be no better than the quarians, do they. They finish the genocide and the blood is on Shepard's hands. Shepard can only balance out the situation in the Destroy ending by eliminating the synthetic threat to the galaxy.

Or, you know, persuading people to stop trying to pointlessly antagonize synthetics.

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
And with regard to the guns on the live ships, do you think the reapers are going to distinguish between armed and unarmed ships? I don't. Better to let them have a spinal mounted main gun.

If you have a gun, you're in a warzone, and you're firing, you aren't a civilian. It's that simple.

They weren't firing, they were fleeing.

[SeptimusMagistos]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
They weren't firing, they were fleeing.

They were firing a moment earlier. Is there a new rule of warfare that prevents you from firing at a retreating enemy?