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#101
Xilizhra

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Sweetie, I hope you realize that many women watch porn as well? Sexual desires are a natural part of us and while I can't speak for all women, I personally don't see how porn is demeaning to women.

Well, to be fair, it depends on the porn. A great deal of it can be ruinously exploitative to the performers involved. However, porn as a concept isn't necessarily degrading.

Also, has anyone posted "I am 15 and what is this" yet?

Modifié par Xilizhra, 21 janvier 2013 - 04:57 .


#102
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UUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.*


* Is something you won't be hearing in DA games in anything but a disgusted context as it was used here. xp

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Yes this has been derailed very badly. I am sorry for all of the arguing. And i know you guys think that umm I am not mature to play these games. And i guess for some reason just because I am lds and actually believe in morales, and that a girl's body should be respected and not gratified, and that I am some how horribly confused, and un mature. I posted this topic, so I could make sure that da3 would not be more explicit than DAO , and that maybe they could put option in on it. I keep apologizing for all this arguing but frankly you guys dont get it. And when I was talking about nudity i was talking about it in general not in dragon age. And i dont know why i am getting attacked for my beliefs. Please stop the arguing, I am really sorry for all this contention. Also FYI i went in to DAO and da2 and modded them so they would be clean, i dont know about you buy it was really hard work, and somepeople would actually respect that and might say good job standing up for what you beleive in. I dont know why you guys keep arguing with me off topic, I posted this topic so I could find out the explicit content. Thats all. And maybe, convince bw to add options for explicit content. Thats all.

#104
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Well, it is a game that's rated M for mature. You may want to actually wait a few years before being exposed to these things, or simply avoid it altogether if it goes against your beliefs.

#105
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turaco wrote...

Yes this has been derailed very badly. I am sorry for all of the arguing. And i know you guys think that umm I am not mature to play these games. And i guess for some reason just because I am lds and actually believe in morales, and that a girl's body should be respected and not gratified, and that I am some how horribly confused, and un mature. I posted this topic, so I could make sure that da3 would not be more explicit than DAO , and that maybe they could put option in on it. I keep apologizing for all this arguing but frankly you guys dont get it. And when I was talking about nudity i was talking about it in general not in dragon age. And i dont know why i am getting attacked for my beliefs. Please stop the arguing, I am really sorry for all this contention. Also FYI i went in to DAO and da2 and modded them so they would be clean, i dont know about you buy it was really hard work, and somepeople would actually respect that and might say good job standing up for what you beleive in. I dont know why you guys keep arguing with me off topic, I posted this topic so I could find out the explicit content. Thats all. And maybe, convince bw to add options for explicit content. Thats all.

No, the "not mature" thing is because you're 15. This is in no way a slight against you personally; nobody is mature at that age, it's a physiological fact. Of course, no one wants to hear this at that age either, so I can understand your reaction, but it's not intended as an insult.

That said, if you want to be treated as an equal, I'm more than happy to tear into you for equating being Mormon with "actually having morals" as if this was somehow exclusive to your own religion.
Also, we argue a lot. It's almost the defining activity of Internet forums, and certainly omnipresent across fandoms.

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turaco wrote...

And i guess for some reason just because I am lds and actually believe in morales,...

Don't presume just because people disagree with you that they are immoral.

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No one went after you because your morals, or religion. Its the fact that it seems that you find nudity, in general, to be worse than killing something/one. A theme that seems to be oddly common.

And because other people disagree with you, doesnt mean they dont have morals as well.

Modifié par Satanicponies, 21 janvier 2013 - 05:10 .


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He's just a little kid, guys. You're wasting your time. He shouldn't even be here!

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turaco wrote...

and that a girl's body should be respected and not gratified

Why shouldn't women be gratified? Do you know what gratified means? It means to give pleasure or to satisfy.

Modifié par DarthPig, 21 janvier 2013 - 05:13 .


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motomotogirl wrote...

He's just a little kid, guys. You're wasting your time. He shouldn't even be here!

Think of it as the baptism of the Internet.

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Xilizhra wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

He's just a little kid, guys. You're wasting your time. He shouldn't even be here!

Think of it as the baptism of the Internet.


I agree.

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#113
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xlixhra, I do not associate that you have to be mormon to have morales. All i was saying is that I cant believe that I am being harrassed by some people because I am saying that girls should be treated with respect and not gratified. Some would say that i am old fashioned cause i believe in marriage, and respecting women by not treating them as objects. And I am supposely immature? Because I believe what I believe, what i am like an out cast , has people suddenly left behind what was decent and right.
I am actually trying to say what I believe to be right. Standing up for my beliefs, and my church, and for one most women I know, that would say that porn is dis respective, that porn is just objectifying women. So i am being harrassed for this. Okay what ever i am done arguing.

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Yeah the human body is always a thing to be ashamed of. Violence however is on equal or more acceptable terms in some circles.

But of course?  Why should we be ashamed of what our own blood and guts look like?

#115
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turaco wrote...

xlixhra, I do not associate that you have to be mormon to have morales. All i was saying is that I cant believe that I am being harrassed by some people because I am saying that girls should be treated with respect and not gratified. Some would say that i am old fashioned cause i believe in marriage, and respecting women by not treating them as objects. And I am supposely immature? Because I believe what I believe, what i am like an out cast , has people suddenly left behind what was decent and right.
I am actually trying to say what I believe to be right. Standing up for my beliefs, and my church, and for one most women I know, that would say that porn is dis respective, that porn is just objectifying women. So i am being harrassed for this. Okay what ever i am done arguing.

The problem comes when you have several women, including me, saying that the concept of nudity isn't inherently degrading to us, and you still claim to know better.  Also, under your system of marriage, I could never have satisfying sexual relations at all, because I don't think you allow for gay marriage.

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I wish there was a porn that objectified Ryan Gosling. That would be nice.

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okay I am sick of this , how do I delete this topic.

#118
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turaco wrote...

okay I am sick of this , how do I delete this topic.

I believe it's impossible. I also believe that some of the later posts here may be worth reading.

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turaco wrote...

xlixhra, I do not associate that you have to be mormon to have morales. All i was saying is that I cant believe that I am being harrassed by some people because I am saying that girls should be treated with respect and not gratified. Some would say that i am old fashioned cause i believe in marriage, and respecting women by not treating them as objects. And I am supposely immature? Because I believe what I believe, what i am like an out cast , has people suddenly left behind what was decent and right.
I am actually trying to say what I believe to be right. Standing up for my beliefs, and my church, and for one most women I know, that would say that porn is dis respective, that porn is just objectifying women. So i am being harrassed for this. Okay what ever i am done arguing.

Again, the word you're looking for is not gratified. Women have every right to seek gratification.

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Ah, the Taliban thrive here! If EA were to dumb DA down to the level of children and religious zealots then they would lose a large part of the customer base that made the franchise successful. Don't like alcohol? Don't drink it! Don't like tobacco? Don't smoke it! Don't like porn? Don't look at it! Don't like video games made for mature adults? Go play tetris or something!

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Xilizhra wrote...

turaco wrote...

okay I am sick of this , how do I delete this topic.

I believe it's impossible. I also believe that some of the later posts here may be worth reading.


You have no idea how true that is.

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I think I see what the OP is saying, I just think he could've worded it a little better. I wouldn't get too upset about it turaco, just let it go. I mean personally I don't find nudity that offensive, but I have plenty of friends that feel the same as you. So your definately not alone.

#123
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no the word is gratified, meaning that women i believe  shouldnt be purely used to satisfy men, there is more to a woman than her body. I cant believe you guys, I was looking for some info and you guys make me not want to come back here. So if you want to accost a kid and make him feel like crap then good you succeeded. I dont know what you guys consider morales, but there freaken screwed up. Thanks for harrasing me, guys , I just want everyone to know that these forums suck. Thanks shadow fang, your one of the only ones that has not made me feel like a freak.

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#124
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turaco wrote...

okay I am sick of this , how do I delete this topic.


I'm not sure but you can report yourself maybe ?

You are too young to be here. 

If you don't believe me, believe the ESRB ratings and the game manufacturere. It is not for your age and I sincerely doubt your lds parents consented you to play a game where bisexual relationships are present.

I'm sorry but I think you should go to bed and try to only play games for your age from now on. And no, I do not respect precocious teens trying to sneak an innapropriate game past their parents, no matter how ingenious they are.

Go to bed and reflect on what you are doing. I'm pretty sure your parents would be furious at you if they knew.

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DarthPig wrote...

turaco wrote...

Beheading is not normal, but I do not think that it is as bad as nudity.

Seriously?


I can't believe that statement, its ridiculous how shocked I am.